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Parochial Houses.

  • 07-04-2023 1:31pm
    Registered Users Posts: 20,416 ✭✭✭✭

    Is there still a house in every parish or have a lot of them been sold off?



  • Registered Users Posts: 277 ✭✭Guildenstern

    I'd say still a house in every parish where there is a priest. Where else are they going to live?

  • Registered Users Posts: 20,416 ✭✭✭✭kneemos

    They have huge houses all over with very few priests. Plenty of room to share.

    Can't be healthy going home to an empty gaff anyway.

  • Registered Users Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Tow

    I am sure there is at lease a house in each parish. But there would have been several per parish.

    When is the money (including lost growth) Michael Noonan took in the Pension Levy going to be paid back?

  • Registered Users Posts: 25,251 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985

    Alone is at least healthier than when they were going home to the alter boys.

  • Registered Users Posts: 5,855 ✭✭✭Princess Calla

    Our parish has 2 or 3 (definitely 3 a few years ago but think there's only 2 priests now so I don't know) and not small cheap houses either.

    Could never understand why they couldn't share as they are 3 bedrooms and 2 bedrooms are big....then a box room which is a box!

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  • Registered Users Posts: 20,861 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005

    There is one in Bridgetown. But nobody knows where it is.

  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]

    Sharing accommodation, while necessary for so many people today can be difficult and stressful. The majority of priests are likely in their fifties and older, maybe even older than fifties 🤔 It doesn't seem fair making them live together. Just because they are single men doesn't mean they wouldn't like to have their own space and live independently.I'm not saying that should happen in a large house though. That's something that does need to be looked at.

  • Registered Users Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Tow

    Back in the day they would have had housekeeper. It was not unknown for the housekeeper to live in, and some cases be more like a wife.

    When is the money (including lost growth) Michael Noonan took in the Pension Levy going to be paid back?

  • Registered Users Posts: 14,725 ✭✭✭✭elperello

    In some bigger parishes there is a Parish Priests house and a Curate's house.

    The Curate's share their accomodation.

    I expect that with the reduction in vocations there will be quite a few houses being either sold or repurposed.

  • Registered Users Posts: 4,545 ✭✭✭Topgear on Dave

    Plenty sold off already I'd say. I know 2 off the top of my head, big old square houses, needed a tidy bit of work to modernise but look well.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭Strumms

    three here…

    each priest has his own house. Always been the way..

    Two of them will be three bedroom houses. The other is a bungalow I’m guessing is a two bedroom job.

    by my guess that’s about 1.5 million in church assets just to accommodate 3 lads….one is semi retired…

    each property is a 1 to 3 minute walk from the church door….

    there are nearby two bedroom apartments that could be bought for about 270,000 each. Less upkeep costs etc..

  • Registered Users Posts: 5,855 ✭✭✭Princess Calla

    It's not really about sharing though.

    Why do they need a home built for a family? There are 2 bed houses in the area but not as close to the church.

    Plus with a little bit of creativity the 3 bed house could very easily be converted into two units.

    They are getting a "free" house I'm sure they can handle a little bit of discomfort.

  • Registered Users Posts: 20,416 ✭✭✭✭kneemos

    Most of them do share,it's only rural parishes that they have their own house,which a lot of them hate apparently because of the loneliness.

    There's a local that's the size of a small Hotel,must be worth millions,I think there's three of them in it. No idea where the money comes from to maintain all of these places,the priests need living expenses too.

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,948 ✭✭✭downtheroad

    That would be an ecumenical matter

  • Registered Users Posts: 5,855 ✭✭✭Princess Calla

    I'm far from rural and neither is Strumms..... we're not same locality but I've an idea where he's based.

    Like him the houses would be close to 1-1.2 million, which just seems madness.

  • Registered Users Posts: 14,309 ✭✭✭✭wotzgoingon

    My local parochial house is empty and has been for a fair few years at this stage after the priest retired we also do not have a local priest anymore since nobody to take over(who the hell would want to be a priest anyway). A priest comes over on a Sunday to say mass in the local church. One mass a week now on a Sunday buy a priest from another parish.

  • Registered Users Posts: 234 ✭✭niallpatrick

    Parishes in my estate most parochial houses are on church grounds now. Down sizing or getting rid of assets I haven't a clue but my parish what was the former PP's house is now in private hands as for the current PP his house is beside the church next to the garage where the gardening equipment is stored. Jammy get falls out of bed into work and has plenty of storage.

  • Registered Users Posts: 363 ✭✭dockysher

    They all have lovely Parochial houses

  • Registered Users Posts: 25,837 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble

    Surely the same should apply to all old people in council housing?

    Older priests are at least still working. People are gonna get a shock once the priests die and there's no one to do funerals.

  • Registered Users Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭Strumms

    They’ll just import priests.

    scanning the list of lads in the Dublin diocese… by surname recognition there are ‘about’ 55 lads with very ‘international’ first and second names whom given the general age profile of priests which is now of a very aged profile, they weren’t born to immigrant families who settled here… most sound Eastern European and African….

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  • Registered Users Posts: 473 ✭✭Ramasun

    Plenty of spare rooms in them. Peter McVerry should be on it.

  • Registered Users Posts: 14,725 ✭✭✭✭elperello

    For the most part we are talking about old men doing a tough job.

    Many of them are struggling as it is and past retirement age.

    These houses are their homes.

    Soon enough the houses will be empty and then the parishes/diocese can decide what to do with them.

  • Registered Users Posts: 22,258 ✭✭✭✭Autosport

    Our parish priests house is housing a Ukrainian family and our local priests house was sold to Focus Ireland.

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭beachhead

    I am sure that back in the day when the church(es) started acquiring these houses the concept of apartments did not exist.I think most in the religious life would prefer there own front door i.e. access to the street.Who knows what scuzz they would be sharing an apartment block with

  • Registered Users Posts: 3,670 ✭✭✭hoodie6029

    Parishioners pay to build and maintain it. Goes in the name of the Bishop from day one. No need for a full time priest in the area anymore and the Bishop sells it and the locals don’t see a penny of it. Nice long term ‘investment’ for the Church.

    Post edited by hoodie6029 on

    The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.

  • Registered Users Posts: 5,855 ✭✭✭Princess Calla

  • Registered Users Posts: 10,557 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge

    Most sold off around here. There's one parochial house for a single priest covering three parishes.

  • Registered Users Posts: 10,557 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge

    The funds from the last one sold here were used to extend the community centre.

  • Registered Users Posts: 20,416 ✭✭✭✭kneemos

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,140 ✭✭✭wildwillow

    One fairly new house not in use and not on parish grounds. No idea why it hasn't been sold. So large and well fitted out , it would easily accommodate a family.

    Other much older and larger house very close to church grounds is in use by one Priest.