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Parochial Houses.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,514 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    What's the norm in your experience? People can only post about what they see themselves. I'm sure some houses are decent, so e excellent and others crap. You don't seem to accept the two examples as what 'it's really like'.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭Count Dracula


    To emphasise my point in case you missed it, I was attempting to convey that they were not a suitable religious organisation to hand over power to.

    It cost us a 100 years of sexual freedom, which the state were terrified of contradicting.

    They still have an appalling attitude to females - across the entire organisation, it is criminal the way they have treated women globally.

    The reason why Church of Ireland members may have supported more conservative values has nothing to do with the RCC, or its hierarchical influence? It is most likely because their members were advised to make their own decisions, about what they vote for, or do morally? That is a major concept within how the CofI worship, everything is conscience based, god is worshipped and not feared?

    The RCC does not want its' congregations having minds of their own and developing their own lives and futures, they want to control and manipulate how you do that, based on their own definition of what is good or not for you? Probably a gross generalisation, but the results are - no women priests, intolerance of sexual preference, Papal authority on moral conscience and an intolerance of alternative lifestyles. They dd not even support condom use globally, there are still millions of people suffering from AIDS and other STD's globally because of that. Lots of unhappy mothers in the mid 20's realising that they had better options. Irish children born into orphanages and raised as slaves....?

    They got far too much power and the results of it are evident everywhere. The Parochial Halls are no issue at all, at least they are tangible and can be reutilised, which cannot be said for the coerced hearts and minds of Irish citizens for the last 100 years?



  • Registered Users Posts: 84 ✭✭Liath Luachra



    I think theres a sort of limbo over the past 20 years or so as the majority retire, thats reflected in the upgrades or lack of in the houses. I couldn't understand it and was shocked in one house with buckets dotted around to catch the leaks. There seems to be many layers to get through to be approved for large sums. Several would have been too elderly to light fires etc. im not sure if priests can get homehelp but there were many who needed it and should have long retired. There was only one real flash lad (what was the name of priest in Father Ted) who loved his tan and flash car, the rest seemed generally men who live simply. I'm not catholic btw - I wasn't randomly visiting priests houses 🤣 job required me to review parish records.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,232 ✭✭✭TooTired123


    I’m acknowledging your post out of courtesy but I’ll not respond. I know you have very serious issues with the RCC and you’ve spent many hours here going around and around in circles with people. It’s all been done to death though , hasn’t it? It’s just not worth doing it all again.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,232 ✭✭✭TooTired123


    As soon as you see a priest driving a merc with a Rolex watch on his wrist you take a picture of him and post it here, my friend. It’s not me that’s not living in the real world…



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,232 ✭✭✭TooTired123


    I can’t understand why, when it’s not costing you a red cent, you’re so concerned about this?



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,829 ✭✭✭Princess Calla


    Well it's costing somebody something.

    Who pays for electricity, heating general maintenance? Where do they get their money?

    One house would also bring down the carbon footprint.

    Personally I'd rather a family live in a 3 bedroom house.



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 10,064 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    Absolutely nothing to do with the topic of the thread, unless you’re now going to linking marriage and race to the housing of priests. Contribute a relevant point!



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,529 ✭✭✭hoodie6029


    Again, you’ve avoided answering my question. You’ve tried to deflect and distract with nonsense, which I suspect is all that you are capable of doing.

    The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.



  • Registered Users Posts: 84 ✭✭Liath Luachra


    Its obvious where they get their wages - people pay the priest for funerals, weddings etc. Irrespective of marriages declining, the majority are still being christened and buried in a church, whether COI or RCC. Alot are genuinely hard workers and earn their wages. Our local PPs juggling 3 parishes and between funerals and now confirmations/communions. Church collections and church dues also i imagine go towards parish upkeep. I dont think its fair to expect elderly men who are most likely set in their ways to all of a sudden live in communal groups. Over a third of PP are over 60. There are many other cohorts of Irish society who live in far more lavish settings, including our own president who could begin reducing footprints if that's your concern. If you're not putting money in the basket every week or paying for weddings/funerals etc, it shouldn't be a worry.

    A few have been up for sale in past few years - interior pics show houses that haven't been modernised for some time.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,357 ✭✭✭apache


    You sound a little biased.

    The priests would be entitled to home help along with social welfare checks just like everybody else. They are not living in squalor. I can't believe that.



  • Registered Users Posts: 84 ✭✭Liath Luachra


    Ah stop with your accusations of bias - I'm referencing my experience which obviously doesn't align with your imaginings. Grim was my descriptive - far removed from squalor which no one mentioned.

    Have a look through property pages over the past few years, many parochial houses have been sold and their interiors typically illustrate a dated interior with poor heating, insulation etc . Perusing the BER will be indicative of this.



  • Registered Users Posts: 24,785 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985




  • Registered Users Posts: 5,829 ✭✭✭Princess Calla


    Who's talking about communal groups?

    I can only talk about my own parish.

    From the time the church was built it has had 3 priests. Each have their own house. The main priest has a massive house, I'd say it's 4 bedrooms and good sized at that. The other 2 priests have a 3 bedroom house each.

    Whatever about the main priest, I could never understand why the 2 other priests couldn't share a house.

    You said yourself some of the houses you've gone into there's damp etc. Sharing a house would cut bills in half. Maintenance and upkeep would be halved. Etc.

    If there's only one priest in the parish I've absolutely no problem them living alone...but when there's 2 or 3 and they each have their own house it seems fairly excessive.

    Comparing a parish priest to the president living alone, is just weird.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,582 ✭✭✭Yellow_Fern


    In other news, atheists tell non atheist people to give up their homes and how to live their lives.



  • Registered Users Posts: 25,765 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    This is the crux of what is obnoxious about this thread.

    There are far more non- priests living alone in 3-beds than there are priests. There are probably more 3-beds left empty due to Fair Deal than there are priests in 3-beds.

    But no one is going around saying single people shouldn't live alone.



  • Registered Users Posts: 561 ✭✭✭BaywatchHQ


    That depends on your personality,etc. I would rather be alone than come home to a feminist wife nagging at you like many modern men do. Hence why there are so many separations nowadays.



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