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Currently buying/selling a house? How is it going? READ MOD NOTE POST #1

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,568 ✭✭✭RedXIV


    To be fair to the solicitor, he said he can definitely fight the issues, but he just can't guarantee we'll get what we want, they only thing he can guarantee is a bill at the end. He's going to try and get the bank to qualify the title with what we have today anyway and if it gets shot down (which I'm expecting) then we go back to the search (Christ I hate the search).

    I'm wayyyy more annoyed at the EA who refused to tell us why the last crowd pulled out of the house, and my solicitor suspects it was the same reason and could have saved me a couple of grand if she'd just been honest



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,014 ✭✭✭Mimojo


    We sent Sale Agreed in Jan, and after a blip with a planning issue, which we have thankfully managed to sort, contracts are now signed and our solicitor has put in the funding request to BoI today. Very conscious of the upcoming interest rate hike, we were really annoyed to have missed the last one, so really really want to avoid this one if at all possible. Solicitor is saying allow 14 days for the funds to come through. Anyone recently draw down from BoI and can give an idea of how long it will take? A friend just got in ahead of the last rate hike, but it was down the the wire, and the bank said they hadnt submitted some form, which their solicitor swears was submitted, so really hope the bank dont delay matters. Also, what paperwork are we likely to get asked for by the bank ahead of the draw down? I assume up to date pay slips, but anything else we should have ready? Our MP and Home Insurance are in place and bank have said they are ok.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 cailinglas1


    After two years and over 20+ houses viewed, and being sale agreed on our dream house at Christmas and having to pull out due to serious boundary issues, we are finally sale agreed on a house we love in a great area. Everything has been moving along smoothly, and are also dying to get in ahead of the next rate increase on 05/05. We have loan offer and are awaiting vendor's contracts. Spoke with EA last week and he said that the vendor hopes to have the sale closed within 6 weeks. Anyone ideas on timelines for vendor's contracts? We are hoping of no unforeseen delays and potentially wondering if we could drawdown a little early to avoid a rate increase. The stress of it all!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,568 ✭✭✭RedXIV


    Really depends, been sale agreed on 2 houses in the last year, one we never got the contracts for after 9 months of being sale agreed because of boundry issues, the other, we have the contracts in 5 days (but that fell through unfortunately too).

    If the vendor is hoping to move fast though, I'd be hoping to see contracts in about 5 or 6 days



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 713 ✭✭✭manniot2


    Reading this forum it’s no wonder we have a housing crises. The amount of people tied up at sale agreed, contract stage etc and the time it’s taking to resolve issues, no wonder there is such a bottleneck. Of course nothing will change.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,503 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    Went to view a house yesterday....no shortage of interest....estate agent said the country is awash with money....rang a builder today....booked out for the year....he said the country was full of money....

    Its funny, everytime i turn on RTE, id swear the country was broke from the cost of living crisis!!!😂

    "SUBSCRIBE TO BOARDS YOU TIGHT CÙNT".....Plato 400 B.C



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,487 ✭✭✭herbalplants


    And do you believe everything an estate agent tells you??

    Definitely don't take a financial advice from an estate agent.

    Remember the shills only get paid when you react to them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭mcsean2163


    Almost of all of the growth in household wealth can be attributed to the wealthiest 10 per cent of Ireland.

    Some of the country are doing quite alright....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,007 ✭✭✭TheRona


    I don't envy some of the people going through the process at the moment, and I'd be in no rush to go through it again myself.

    I have a relative in NZ who is a single mother, and was recently told she had to leave her rental property as the owner was going to sell. The rental situation over there seems just as bad as here, and she didn't know what to do. She spoke to a financial advisor, and they asked whether she had considered trying to buy. This is something she never thought would be possible, but long story short, she collected the keys to her own house less than 6 weeks later. That's less than 6 weeks from the initial suggestion that she should consider trying to buy. I had to wait 6 weeks for the vendors of the house I bought to find a document they'd lost.

    There's something seriously wrong about the way things are done over here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,598 ✭✭✭Dante


    Took me 5 months from going sale agreed to closing despite me being eager to buy and the seller eager to sell. There was a time vacuum of 2-3 months where simply nothing was done by their solicitor along with no communication whatsoever.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,449 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    Took us 4 months and pretty similar to yourself, would think it would be beneficial to the whole industry if the process was quicker, more turnover, more business for everybody involved.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 cailinglas1


    We received an update that the deeds were dropped into the vendor's solicitor 10 days ago, so contracts should be with us this week (fingers crossed). The vendor wants a quick sale and we've been given a verbal closing date of 5 weeks time. I mentally can't celebrate that we are buying a house until we have keys, because of our experiences over the past two years......



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭okeydokeys22


    Great news. How long have you been sale agreed? I'm a seller and still waiting on deeds and terrified buyers will pull out



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,911 ✭✭✭✭whatawaster


    We are in the process of trading up at the moment, and it's a stressful process.

    We put our house on the market in November, it was sale agreed within a couple of weeks at a good price. Multiple bidders, and buyer was chosen partly because of their close links to the area and willingness to wait for us to find a house. All good.

    Fast forward 4/5 months, and we have:

    • gone sale agreed on a house, only for it to fall through due to structural issues uncovered in the engineer's report
    • Outbid on another house we loved (well above asking)
    • We were highest bidder on another (seller went with a cash buyer who offered less than us)

    Now our buyers are understandably getting impatient, we're worried it's going to fall through.

    Going to see another house we think we are going to love today, so fingers crossed.

    My two observations from the last 5 months of house-hunting:

    • We are looking for 4-bed detached houses. We are in a large town, but really lucky if 1-2 of these come on to the market each month, and really lucky if 1 of these ticks enough of our boxes for us to view/bid on.
    • While the market overall may be slowing, these houses are still attracting a lot of interest and going for well above asking price.

    All the while, interest rates go up and up and up . . .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭DownByTheGarden


    The amount of sales falling through is astounding.

    It was like "Rear Window" here the last few days.

    Im looking out the window at the house across the road that is for sale for about 6 months now.

    It was sale agreed within a couple of weeks of going on the market. That fell through because they didnt actually have a mortgage of the amount they said and couldnt get it. A few week later it was sale agreed again. That fell through because those buyers decided that the vendor wasnt able to move fast enough for them.

    Then last week the latest buyers pulled out because of problems with boundaries on their own house that they were selling. They had been stalling for a couple of months and got an ultimatum. Dont know how much it was sale agreed at with any of those.

    For sale sign went up again last week.

    Im looking at lots of drive bys over easter. Cars driving up, stopping outside for a while and then going on their way. Some getting out and snapping a few pictures.

    Yesterday must have been the viewing. There was a steady stream of people going in and chatting to the agent outside.

    When I looked it up on Daft the asking price is 55k more than when it went up the first time.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,444 Mod ✭✭✭✭pc7


    Mine took 8 months to sell, fell through twice before finally being rid of it, so happy to be done with it! It really shouldn't be so difficult.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,463 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    I’ll be in the exact situation in a few weeks. House is going up for sale at the end of the month, we’re going through the process of getting AIP wit a few banks etc. I’ll be hoping I’ve a buyer like yours that’s patient and willing to wait for us to find the house we want/need. We’re looking for a 4 bed detached and at worst a four bed semi but are few and far between within our area and budget. It looks like our max budget will be €300k



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 Bluebird22


    But presumably you've signed contracts without a definitive closing date so unlikely it'll fall through if deal is binding and your buyer was happy to wait. Only way it could fall through now is some issue with their finance. Best of luck!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,911 ✭✭✭✭whatawaster


    Nope, contracts not signed yet. They don't want to sign without a closing date, and we don't want to sign until we can commit to one. Marriage of convenience!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,881 ✭✭✭C3PO


    If I was a buyer, I wouldn't sign a contract without a closing date - why would you?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,463 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    I remember back when we bought our house from a developer we didn’t sign contracts until about 3 weeks before getting the keys, this was due to them needing to finish out the house and the snags. But I assume you could put in the contract a provisional date that’s subject to change and limit it to one change…… I’d be hopeful that we get a buyer is patient with us as we go on our house hunt!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,743 ✭✭✭Wanderer2010


    Gone sale agreed on a modest 2 bed bungalow since mid January, got all my documents sent up to Bank of Ireland including mortgage protection and house insurance and im having a nightmare of a time waiting for them to issue the loan contracts.

    Signed all of my paperwork with the mortgage broker 1st week of February, signed the contracts with solicitor end of February and have the 10% paid into vendors solicitor.

    The bank are holding everything up. I have a very good salary and savings record but they seem to be delaying the process, asking for updated payslips and taking a week to acknowledge any answer. My broker just keeps telling me the bank are "working through the paperwork" but im stuck in the middle as the auctioneer rings every single week looking for an update and all i can tell them is the bank still havent got back to me. The seller now has told my solicitor if i dont get the loan issued in 4 weeks they are pulling out but this isnt my fault, ive done everything required of me but BOI are stalling the whole thing.

    I have a horrible feeling im going to lose the house. BOI seem to be doing this to a lot of applicants in order to get them onto the higher interest rate which kicks in 5th May, by which stage i fear the seller will look elsewhete. Extremely frustrating.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,449 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    Sorry to say but you probably just have to start "annoying" them a little because they seemed to react to that. I could have written exactly what you have written about B0I about 6 months ago. Did not use a Broker. I just started asking them questions every day via the BOI Portal (even if I had some of the info already from my solicitor who also was in contact with them over the phone). In the end - they added about 3 weeks delay for me I reckon but at least any time they updated with a new message - there was zero delays in providing information (often it was stuff that had already been uploaded a few months previous) once they responded. I had a feeling that the Backend IT systems they are using are a bit dated for internal communication/processes, even if the Online Portal looks shiny.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭Aph2016


    That's not good to read. We're going through a broker with BOI and PTSB, I think I'd find delays like you've had infuriating. Can only imagine the amount of houses buyers have lost due to the stone age mortgage process.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,743 ✭✭✭Wanderer2010


    Yeah its very frustrating, especially when the auctioneer is ringing weekly looking for updates as if i have any control over the process. The banks hold all the cards here since so many customers are gone from KBC and Ulster. Im surprised the auctioneer doesnt get this. Surely im not the only one in no mans land waiting for word back..

    I have reached out to BOI directly and am going to pester them as per advice on their portal. Good luck with your own journey!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,552 ✭✭✭kaymin


    I found BOI and AIB to be total dopes to deal with so gave up on both of them - got mortgage approval with EBS instead - breath of fresh air.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,043 ✭✭✭✭Mimikyu


    Funnily I'm having the exact opposite experience at the moment. BOI and AIB have been grand to deal with and quick to reply, applications with the underwriters at the moment.

    EBS, who we applied with first, still hasn't submitted the application yet because they keep asking for more documents. Get them what they're looking for, they ask for another one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 786 ✭✭✭dubal




  • Posts: 382 ✭✭ Mckinley Itchy Logjam


    I am drawing down my mortgage next Monday 24th April.

    My mortgage is with TSB. I am getting 2% of the total mortgage amount at drawdown in a cash back lump sum.

    I am planning on using this to buy a few bits for the house. They say "on draw down" but realistically when get I expect to get the money?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 Bluebird22


    OP mentioned that the buyer was willing to wait until they were ready to close, which suggests none was in the contract at time of signature.



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