What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

Trumps claims of executive privilege have failed and Judge orders Pence to be compelled to testify about conversations he had with POTUS Trump about January 6.

However it is noted, Pence could still appeal and assert his own privilege as President of the Senate for his own actions on January 6 itself.

I don't think the Framers really thought out these privilege arguments much, but I guess if 2 or more branches of government are already engaged in illegal collusion you're already fucked in the a as a citizen anyway right? The madness it feels like that Pence might have more Legislative Branch privilege to not testify than Trump has Exectutive Privelege to not testify. However iirc Lindsay Graham already tried to weasel out of testifying (and failed) under the Speech and Debate clause in Article I.

And to think the last hurdle to anything sticking to Trump is still the court that's been getting packed since Scalia. Given their recent rulings I wouldn't be surprised if the Roberts court came out with "it's not historically traditional to prosecute former presidents, therefore we won't" - yes, the Roberts court cited History and Tradition in Dobbs v Jackson to overturn Roe vs Wade, and in Bruen it recently ruled along the same line of History and Tradition to render null a heap of gun regulations across the country, just last month:

I might have already mentioned this case earlier in the thread or some other, and if so I'm sorry, actually only heard the report about it this morning and it still blows me away that the United States legal system is going to come apart at the seams soon because these chucklefucks want to enshrine literally "the most dangerous phrase in business" as the reason why we no longer allow the Legislature(s) to Legislate. And they're **** republicans I was told they knew how the **** to Business. And their best reason for defeating abortion and gun rights is, 'well we understand that's the intent of the law that the lawmakers wrote and got signed into law but in our opinion... that's not the way we've always done things, you can't just ... make new laws, that's ridiculous.'

Damn the liberal owner of twitter!

Oh wait...

His interview was exactly the same as all his previous interviews.

They were always horrific.

The only reason he is saying that this one was horrific is because he realises Trump will not win 2024.

No, if he voted for Trump twice I'd take that to mean 2016 and 2020.

Thing is, the core viewers probably don't really care that they're being lied to. Or they'll just shift the gears in the tiny brains to believing that Dominion and tHe lEft are behind (another) massive conspiracy to silence the "truth" by going after their propaganda outlet.

You'd think, at this stage, that everyone with even half a functioning mind would have given Fox, Trump, et al, a wide berth. But they continue to negotiate around sense and logic to comfort their own idiocy and belief systems.

Fox will fight the case with all the bullshit they can muster, but I don't think any monetary or reputational damage will damaging enough. Fox has already admitted to basically being an "entertainment" channel and not a conveyor of news in court, and I'd say a lot of their viewers just thought that that was a wise "defence". So they'll, most likely, just come up with more swivel eyed bollocks in this case too and their viewers will still be snafu.

There really is no helping some people.

On the contrary, I'm well aware of that.

A lot of Fox viewers tune in because what the channel broadcasts salves and encourages their already solidified beliefs. And if Fox has to muddy the waters now and again to continue doing that, they'll just let that pass.

FFS, the likes of Alex Jones still has viewers, because people believe he's fighting the good fight. It wouldn't surprise me, in the least, that a significant number of Fox viewers won't even bat an eyelid if the network came out and admitted to lying about a large number of items. They'll just park that and continue watching because something, something, CNN, communism, tHe lEfT...ad nauseam.

unfortunately this is very accurate.

Tucker could call his ‘fans’ stupid redneck c&nts’ tonight and Trump could call them all gobshites for not getting vaccinated or whatever. But as long as they ended it by saying something like ‘watch out for those librards /Biden/Fauci/they’ll steal your guns etc and join us again tomorrow night ’ they’ll all be back

In other news, speculation abound as to what this means...

Dominion would want repair of their good name. That is a grovelling apology, Their future reputation is important. More important than the damages cheque.

Indeed but what is an apology without repercussions surely some heads will have to roll as part of it.

I think whatever comes of this Dominion are going to want accountability to be seen to be done in public so its unlikely they will allow some out of court settlement with an NDA on the compensation amount. And they will want a very public apology by Tucker Carlson et al on air during his show.

At the end of the day Dominion are an electronic voting machine company and as a business they live or die on running a secure software system to count votes that is tamperproof. A false allegations of the US election being rigged from Venezualea by hacking their software is an existential threat for a company who deal solely in the integrity of elections. Fox then amplified those false allegations hugely and gave belief to the lie that the election was rigged. Which then put Dominions entire reputation and its future as a business on the line. Its as serious as it gets for a company who sells voting counting machines and software.