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What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,670 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    Breaking News: A suspicious white powder was just discovered inside an envelope at the Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg’s office, just hours after Donald Trump threatened “death and destruction” if he is indicted.


    Maga again?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,447 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    It was allegedly sent from Orlando, Florida. Tenner says that Donald posted it himself.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,161 ✭✭✭frag420


    Don Jr is gonna be pissed that senior got into his stash…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,875 ✭✭✭✭salmocab




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,782 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    He is alluding to death and destruction now, which itself is the byproduct of fight like hell. He is gagging to get another riot going.

    Otherwise he also wants to be shot

    But Trump has rejected that approach and told various allies over the weekend that he didn’t care if someone shot him – he would become “a martyr”. He later added that if he got shot, he would probably win the presidency in 2024, the sources said.

    You know what to do MAGA brains



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,989 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Death threat emails sent to Bragg (because MAGA) originated from....Russia.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,652 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 639 ✭✭✭Endaaaagh


    Sounds like the plot of 'Machete'. Hire a Mexican to "assassinate" a far right candidate only for it to be a double cross aimed to garner sympathy for the candidate and vilify Hispanics.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Somehow Fox News gave time to Rob Blagojevich - a former politician who was convicted in 2011 of 18 counts of corruption including trying to sell a Senate seat vacancy for $1.5M.

    why was he on fox you ask? To impugn Michael Cohen for cooperating with investigators - sorry - for being a “snitch” and getting a lighter sentence.

    Blaggys own sentence was commuted by Trump in 2020.

    Incredibly desperate of them to try and campaign against prosecution of Individual One, the Unindicted Coconspirator. This guy stole money from a children’s hospital and he’s trying to go on TV and shame Michael Cohen for lying 🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,072 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Stormy isn't the dumb blonde that some think she is.

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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,253 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Trump rally in Waco was yet another horrible dog-whistle to the very furthest reaches of the ring-wing in the US.

    Choosing to hold a rally in Waco on the 30th Anniversary of the Branch Davidian siege is a clear clarion call to the likes of the Proud Boys and the 3 percenters and all the other

    His rhetoric about having to "destroy the deep state before they destroy us" clearly calls to them.

    He will happily burn the entire country to the ground to protect himself.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,652 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    As long as it's owning the libs who cares?

    50 years from now they are going to look back at this time and think what? They lost their way or they found it? A principal in Florida (Where else) had to quit 'cos an art class was shown a picture of David.

    The Simpsons made a joke about this years ago.

    What a shame. The US has lost its soul, it's empathy, its education, its freedom. All to fear and hate and it's all internal. I CANNOT equate this to the US I spent so much time in in the early 2000s Teaching creation theory in science class. Burning books. Banning mention of homosexuality, Banning teaching of black history. Cheering on a white-supremacist-supporting, election-tampering sexual predator.

    For shame.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,782 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭archermoo


    Sadly none of that surprises me in the least. But then I grew up in the US. The religious fanatics have been pushing to have "creation science" taught in schools since they made the term up in the 1960s. I spent way too much time on Usenet arguing with those loonies on talk.origins back in the day. They desperately long for the time when finding out someone was homosexual was considered justification for kicking the sh!t out of them. And when POC "knew their place". Large swaths of the US lost their fcking minds when Obama was elected. The idea that a black man could be President pretty much shattered their world view. Then along comes a man that tells them that it is okay to hate the people that they hate. That's where the bullsh!t "Make America Great Again" comes from. What they mean by that is "Make America White Again". And "Make America Straight Again". And "Make America CIS Again". And of course "Make America Religious Again".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,170 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    IUt incredible to watch it happen. That a man can stand up and play an 'alternative' anthem and have people stand and cover their hearts - ie pledge allegiance - is incredible. This from the same people that lost it when others knelled to the actual anthem.

    Imagine if AOC, or Omar or anyone else did this. The right would be in uproar. But almost nothing is said about it.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,253 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    The Waco siege (along with the earlier Ruby Ridge one ) are two incidents that all the militia types hold up as examples of the "big Bad Government" and proof that they need their guns to "protect themselves from the Feds" etc.

    By holding the rally in Waco during the 30th anniversary of the Davidian siege and then playing that song , he is making a deliberate effort to connect them to him and his "fight" against the deep state blah blah blah.

    He is perfectly happy to unleash these deranged lunatics and doesn't care about the consequences as long as it helps him get away with everything he has done.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,656 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    There are no more people on here defending him.

    None.

    Any previous pro-Trumpers have jumped ship to DeSantis.

    Most of Fox have abandoned him.

    Murdoch and his papers have abandoned him.

    The only people who will vote for him are those that would have or did or see no problem with storming the capitol for him. Regarding those people who actually did incidentally, he refused to pardon them, or pay their legal fees.

    We are down to the cult members, and those that are so removed from politics, they believe the snippets they get on social media about how he wasn't or isn't that bad.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭archermoo


    And yet last I checked he is still polling ahead of other potential GOP candidates for 2024.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,781 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien


    Where are you getting this from?

    He is the clear frontrunner for the rep nomination. DeSantis in second is miles behind.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,253 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    In the GOP Primary he has about 25-30% of the likely voters absolutely nailed on - These are the hat wearing , flag waving MAGA base.

    The GOP are repeating the errors of the 2016 cycle and look like they are going to have a whole host of opponents , all of whom will split the "Not Trump" vote and hand him victory.

    However in the actual election that MAGA base plus the "GOP no matter who" votes will simply not be enough to win a majority.

    It will appear closer than is really is because of the nonsense that is the electoral College , but thankfully nutters like Kari Lake in Arizona lost in November meaning that there are no hard core election deniers in situ in high office in any of the swing states.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭archermoo


    I hope you are correct. I remember a lot of people making similar arguments about the 2016 election.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,253 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    That was before people actually knew who he was.

    A large chunk of the vote for Trump in 2016 was of the "Give him a go , he couldn't be much worse" type.

    In every election since then , Trump has lost (or lost the GOP seats because of his presence).

    Everyone knows exactly who he is now and absolutely no one that didn't vote for him in 2020 is going to change their minds about him for 2024.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭archermoo


    Again, I hope you're right. In 2016 he got ~63 million votes. In 2020 he got ~74 million. Granted the popular vote doesn't determine the winner, but he gained more than 11 million votes after everyone knew exactly who he was. Fortunately Biden did better with both the popular vote and the EC vote.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,253 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    More people voted - A combination of a growing population and the fact that mail-in voting actually made it easier for people to vote.

    He got significantly less of the total vote as a percentage of the total vote.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,656 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Yeah, these guys......


    "We are down to the cult members, and those that are so removed from politics, they believe the snippets they get on social media about how he wasn't or isn't that bad."


    Combine that with how unpopular DeSantis is and that explains the figures.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,447 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    I wonder was the previous DeSantis wave the proverbial mile wide and inch deep. He doesn't strike me as a hugely charismatic guy, and his fumbling around trying to find the 'sweet spot' on Ukraine suggests a guy without a great deal of political conviction. I wonder is there time for the never-Trump Republicans to find another saviour and who that might be...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭TheRepentent


    and making cameo appearances in the Ukraine thread supporting the Moscow Midget



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭archermoo


    In 2016 he got 46.1% of the popular vote. In 2020 he got 46.8%. So a higher percentage. Not by much, but higher.

    On the other hand in 2016 his opponent got 48.2%, meaning neither got a majority of the popular vote. In 2020 his opponent got 51.3%. The big difference is the number of votes that went to third party candidates. 5.7% went in 2016, while only 1.9% did so in 2020.

    So he was further behind his opponent in 2020 both in total votes and percentage of the vote. But both his total and percentage increased in 2020. The only thing that went down was the number of EC votes that he got. And since 2020 a lot of Republican controlled states have been putting in place laws that make it harder for groups that tend to vote more Democratic than Republican. As well as laws that allow for the state government to override the state's popular vote when determining where the state's EC votes go.

    So again, I hope you are right.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,652 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    She didn't use the opportunity to blame "Woke Culture" to allow a trans person near a school? She's slipping. Oh dear. Is she REALLY MAGA?



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