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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,890 ✭✭✭✭briany


    @correct horse battery staple

    Putin and his generals don’t care how many Russians die

    He must care a bit, if only because if he gets all his men killed, he won't be able to win this war.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,208 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Interesting all right, in the sense that we don't have Ukraine's input. And I'm pretty sure that statements like "Most people agree" that a settlement will have to be made IE: Let Putin keep is ill gotten gains. Is NOT how this saga will end. Another pro Putin anti Zelenski viewpoint. Ukrainians have the Russians well sussed out. Either they chase them out of Ukraine, and that means all of Ukraine, inc, Crimea or the Russian threat will never end.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,765 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,890 ✭✭✭✭briany




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,699 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio


    I'm not burying my head in the sand. I'm sure we're all well aware of what's happening, and what's happening is the same in all previous wars. No better, no worse. I don't want to cover up or suppress any information, far from it.

    I don't think that boards.ie is a place to link snuff videos, to watch videos of soldiers from either side getting maimed and killed. I'm sure you'd agree that we don't post videos of rape and torture, even though that is also a common occurrence?

    Are we that desensitized that we're promoting graphic videos of some Russian sod getting killed?


    Surely this is against the charter:

    Do not post any material that you know or should know is hateful, abusive, harassing, false and/or defamatory, inaccurate, vulgar, obscene, profane, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or illegal.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,852 ✭✭✭zv2


    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,890 ✭✭✭✭briany


    This very war is vulgar, obscene and profane, yet the thread is running to thousands of pages. Point being that in a thread about horrible and bloody war, I don't think it's unreasonable in principal to proffer this kind of footage, especially where the reader is not being forced to look at it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,852 ✭✭✭zv2


    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,699 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio


    I completely agree with this sentiment, I've followed this thread from the beginning and I appreciate the input from everyone and appreciate that people use links to reinforce their point of view.

    I have just noticed that over the past few weeks we've gotten more link dumps of what amounts to little more than snuff videos. There should be a minimum level of decency and civility to posting. The war is horrible and bloody, but we don't need to revel in it.


    From your original post

    "Gif of footage from Ukrainian grenade drop on a group of sleeping Russian soldiers. Obviously there's some gore, so don't watch if squeamish."

    What has this added to the discussion?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,078 ✭✭✭dasdog


    And that's what the denazification and liberation of Ukraine looks like. It's quite sad really.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,890 ✭✭✭✭briany


    It tells us that war can be a horrible and random thing where chaos can erupt out of calm. One second you're here and the next you're not. There's no sentimental music and here's no poignant last words. Only some of the sleeping never wake up. Those who do wake up are subjected to mad shock and panic like most of us hope never to experience, and it can happen to soldiers in the field at virtually any time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭pjordan


    Shades of Charlie Chaplin in The Great Dictator - and that was comedy!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Graphic war coverage started with WW1 and has been part of every conflict since. You could take the view that the proliferation of such videos of the reality of war will actually hasten it's conclusion. Let's just hope that these videos are seeping back to the Russian citizenry who have supported the barbarous nature of their invasion of a neighbour. The more videos like this and the more body bags going back, the better.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,436 ✭✭✭SortingYouOut


    If the point was showing the atrocities of the war then there would be more videos of Russians killing Ukrainians.

    Beverly Hills, California



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,699 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio


    Atrocities of war are more than death. Again, would people be up for watching videos of rape and torture? I'm sure it wouldn't take long to find them. Are these links meant to be educational? How many videos are needed to drive home man's inhumanity to man?

    I'm not going to labour the point, if people and mods are happy then I won't bring it up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,436 ✭✭✭SortingYouOut


    I agree with you but there was a disclaimer. I think anyone over the age of 18 who wants to watch these kind of videos can do so if they want. I think as long as there's a warning with the link it should be allowed to be shared.

    I don't think the people sharing these videos are doing so to share the attrocities of war as the content is mainly Russians being killed, so it's definitely blood lust.

    Beverly Hills, California



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,100 ✭✭✭gw80


    Meh,maybe those russians back home thinking of volunteering will watch these videos and think twice,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,436 ✭✭✭SortingYouOut


    I didn't know we had Russian soliders accessing this forum from the trenches but it's good of us to share these videos with them.

    I'm not arguing against these links being posted here, but lets not pretend they're being shared out of the goodness of our own hearts to highlight the bad in this war and just admit it for what it is. They're being shared because some people like watching them.

    Beverly Hills, California



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,501 ✭✭✭✭josip


    This person is happy with how that video was posted.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 275 ✭✭Seanmadradubh


    Most people don't have a visceral sense of what war is like, their only exposure is through films and news articles, most never even read a book written by a front line soldier describing the true horror. It's those people who support their governments (or side) when such horror is unleashed.

    I honestly believe that western media don't show enough of the true horrors of war, leading to things like the gung-ho attitude of many towards for example Iraq in 2003.

    It's interesting that it's people who have a deeper undersanding* of what war is really like are the ones who are the most anti-war.

    *of course to truly understand it you have to have experienced it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 275 ✭✭Seanmadradubh


    I don't usually revel in death, but nice to see this fella taken out.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,223 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    The worst part about Bakhmut for the Russians is they've already taken about 65% of the city but Ukraine hold onto the most built up areas which are hardest to take.

    They'd rather pull out but that would be a killer for morale. So do they try and stall or push on to eventually take the rest but with massive losses and a destroyed city.

    If they reduce their presence there and Ukraine starts taking back parts of the city it could put them in serious bother. I don't think back in January anybody thought this city would still be standing come April.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,816 ✭✭✭maebee




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 510 ✭✭✭AerLingus747


    You would be picked up on the Shannon and Dublin S-Band PSR's after a certain height, but I get the sentiments of your argument... there is some PSR coverage from airport radars in Ireland, but no long range capability...

    Radar feed sharing goes both ways too... IAA feeds go to other operators too



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,436 ✭✭✭SortingYouOut


    The thought of this thread being some sort of Irish frontline in Russia's state sponsored cyber war sounds exciting but I doubt it. That's something that started here and grew legs as quickly as the lads losing them in the real war.

    Beverly Hills, California



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    18 German lepoard 2 delivered to ukraine,

    One full battilion as promised,

    Just in time along with some of the other armoured vehicles already already in training programs




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Every thread on here over the last 10 + years involving anything to do with Russia is proof of that ,so many people posting about how much they adored putin and the loved the way putin was putting it to the west,and at the same time telling us how much the EU and Nato were full of corruption, ukraine was full of far right neo Nazi's,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,765 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    IMG_20230327_154403_638.jpg

    Speaking of Orcs getting their well deserved dues... remember that video where call sign 'Predator' was very busy firing RPGs and then downed an Orc rushing his trench? well here he is, getting recognition from the boss, Zeluzhniy. He was awarded The Golden cross and given a nicer weapon.

    Zaluzhny awarded a soldier of the brigade named after Sirka, who repelled the attack of overwhelming enemy forces

     "I had the honor to award the senior soldier of the 92nd separate mechanized brigade named after Ivan Sirk, Ruslan Zubarev, with the Golden Cross medal of honor and to present him with the well-deserved award weapon," said Zaluzhny

    The Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces emphasized that the young senior soldier repelled the attack of overwhelming enemy forces, and also showed bravery and courage in battle

    "I am grateful to everyone who defends the Motherland from the occupier. Glory to all defenders of Ukraine!" - added Zaluzhny

    Of course some would have called it a gratuitous snuff movie. I wouldn't.

    There is a nice subtext. Apparently he mentioned being legally too young to buy and own an AR-15, so a friend in high places sorted that.

    Post edited by cnocbui on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,890 ✭✭✭✭briany


    This thread has mainly become about sharing information on the war in Ukraine. While we're at that, if we can put a few trolls back in their boxes, what harm? Although I'm sure there's no-one here thinks they're helping win the war one post at a time, the trolls' little talking points do trickle down into wider public consciousness and can than affect political outcomes if allowed to run unchallenged. Troll farms wouldn't be a thing if there wasn't value in influencing online opinion.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,765 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    The Orc embassy in Dublin is critically important to Mordor, so the tone of local discussion is probably of considerable interest to them. Wouldn't want the populace to start creating real pressure to close it down and turf the scum out.



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