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So "X" - nothing to see here. Elon's in control - Part XXX

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,775 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    I recently started watching youtube videos on Musk, what a clown. This is how he should be thought of, his presentation of a Tesla robot.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,775 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    But there's a gaping chasm between visionary ideas and wishing upon a star.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    If things like the Car Tunnel, solar tiles and that stupid Cybertruck are anything to go by - not to mention all the shít that doesn't get publicly announced - the AI robot has probably already been shelved along with all the other failures.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,294 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    But its still undoubtedly viewed as amazing by his worshippers.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Presumably the mantra is that better to try and fail, to be "visionary", than be actually successful at what one does?

    And by all accounts SpaceX and Tesla were success stories - but seems increasingly like a stopped clock being twice right than resting genius.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,775 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    But Lyle Langley didn’t propose a car tunnel, it was the ultra fast hyperloop and he delivered tunnel with snazzier lights. One million robo taxis were meant to be here years ago and didn’t he promise trips to Mars in 2024?

    Seems like a pumper and dumper to me. Maybe the Silicon Valley Bank might be the sign that the crappy start up veneration days are over, and he will go down with it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,526 ✭✭✭kerplun k


    Didn’t he build hyperloops in Brockway, Ogdenville, and North Haverbrook?

    and by gum, it put them on the map!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,916 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    A leaked memo from Musk to staff indicates that Twitter is now worth approx. 20bn. Compared to the 44bn Musk paid for it about 6 months ago, that's an incredible increase in value of a whopping -55%. Or a decrease in value of 55%, whatever way you want to look at it.

    This has been revealed because he's now offering staff stock in the company as an incentive, while claiming he sees a clear but difficult path forward which would raise the value of Twitter to approx. 250bn, which I'm sure will definitely, absolutely happen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,916 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    .<double post>.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    A $250 billion valuation eh? Huh, well it's possible, there's always a chance but I really don't see the path towards that, not one that currently seems to be alienating revenue generators.

    Unless. Set the bar impossibly high then Musk creates a path towards jettisoning his stake with a "well I guess I tried but <excuses> just got in my way" rationale that lets him walk with a sense of pride intact.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,465 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    20 billion is probably an optimistic value. You could probably shave 50+% of that. Remember the company is ladden with debt

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,739 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


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    don't like this, i pretty much only use the 'for you' tab, don't follow too many people and like to see a diversity of opinions, I suppose i should follow everyone and anyone and learn how to optimise my timeline...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,916 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Wow, already that 20bn valuation seems like it's going to drop further...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 851 ✭✭✭blackwave


    I think a big part of the issue here is that musk thinks everyone loves Twitter as much as him and will pay money for it. However, its a social media company and people can switch to other platforms easily enough or just choose not to log in any longer. Also telling is that he is admitting that the bots are a problem... Yet he can solve the issue for paid subscribers but not the plebs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,916 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    A bigger issue which is going to come from this is only subscribers being able to vote on polls, which will no doubt lead to enormously skewed polls and results based on only the views of people dumb enough to pay to use Twitter.

    Musk already ran polls asking if he should step down as CEO of Twitter and the result was a resounding yes because everyone could vote on it. Now he'll be able to just use polls to have his supporters validate his own opinions. Which let's face it, is pretty much what he wanted to begin with anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭archermoo


    I think more to the point he is trying to push everyone that uses Twitter to be a paid subscriber. I expect that at some point in the not too distant future he is going to try and phase out free accounts entirely. Probably touting it as the only way to deal with the bot problem.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,916 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    The 'For You' tab will essentially become an ad timeline, where people are literally paying to have you see their tweets, even if it's not a product they're advertising but just their own opinions etc.

    If he gets rid of the 'Following' tab, where you see tweets and retweets from the accounts you follow in the order they were posted in, that's me gone. However big a problem he thinks 'bots' may have been, for the vast majority of users they don't warrant the destruction of the site and paywalls to make it in any way functional. Nor will he ever make his money back that way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,775 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    Part of the issue is probably he thinks people love him on Twitter. Hopefully we get a twoofer here, the digital latrine that is Twitter is no more and Musk is exposed as a vapor ware huckster.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,369 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    I got an email from Twitter telling me my account is locked for security reasons, haven't used it in about five years. No I'm trying to figure out whether to just ignore or log in change password, just to delete it. I suspect it's an invented security issue to see if my dormant account(and all the others) has any life left in it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,608 ✭✭✭francois




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,852 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    The big problem is that Musk thinks people want to be seen. So they'll pay to be on the for you tab. Musk goes on twitter because he loves the attention. So he thinks others are like that. I have no incentive to pay. I don't want to appear on the for you tab. I don't care at all where my tweets appear. But I do care about what's shown to me.

    If I refresh my feed now, it automatically switches to the for you tab. And when I go to the for you tab, it's filled with paid for blue ticks now. There's maga heads I've never heard of spewing random crap. If it was factual stuff that I would learn from, that's one thing, but it's just random people shouting about stuff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,916 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    It really is one of the most ill-conceived series of announcements.

    Only people who pay for Twitter Blue can have checkmark, thereby greatly affecting actual verification which can lead to false info, impersonation, spam etc.

    People who pay for Twitter Blue will have their posts show up in everyone's For You tab, but accounts you follow will also show up in the For You tab, meaning the main difference between the For You and Following tabs is that the For You tab has tweets from Twitter Blue users (so why use the For You tab at all then?).

    People who pay for Twitter Blue can hide their checkmark to remove any negative connotations or reveal that they pay for Twitter Blue, though it'll become obvious since they show up in For You tabs of people who don't follow them.

    And only Twitter Blue users can vote on polls, making the entire polls system redundant.


    Absolute genius.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,294 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    He'll probably get rid of the following tab soon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,739 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    hmm..

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    hmmm



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Another victory for big brain Musk. Lol. He should have talked to me: I'd have given him free business advice that people won't necessarily, immediately pay for stuff they had been getting for free.

    Though watch the apologists simply wave it away with a something something liberal woke newspapers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,594 ✭✭✭Harika


    Financial times had an article where they compared twitter with snap and valued it comparatively at 12 billions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,852 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Here's the weird thing, I'm at the point where I'd pay to not see people with a blue tick :)


    My feed is becoming so full of people who have paid to be there that I would actually pay not to have to see them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,916 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    That's why they're going to give the Twitter Blue subscribers the option to hide their blue tick.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,852 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    That's just for embarrassment. :)

    They'll still appear in the for you timeline won't they? And the for you timeline will still be useless whether you pay or not.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,215 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko




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