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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,843 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Did a Serb drive over your dog at some stage Lar? They're living rent free inside your head 😀



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,744 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    He might use nukes if he wasn't so worried about his own skin. I mean the giant table (must be because Hitler was saved by one) and the use of doubles, as in 'his' latest visit to Ukraine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    I wonder what would happen if one of his doubles was killed...?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,462 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    I'm still hoping for a scheduling mixup where we see Putin standing waiting for his guest to arrive and in walks another Putin 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,040 ✭✭✭✭pgj2015


    They would probably say he rose from the dead a few days later.

    I knew he never went to ukraine, he is too much of a coward to do that.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    RAF rivet joint aircraft was patrolling over the blacksea earlier today escorted by 2 armed typhoon fighter jets ,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,744 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    This is your life..will the real Putin please stand up?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout



    I read that this morning. Just an awful story.

    This is the naked and ugly truth of them. Punishing children because they painted a picture. It wasn't even a sexual image. Nothing violent. Nothing blasphemous even. Just something that didn't fit the Kremlin narrative.

    How in the hell can posters continuously go to bat for this regime, either directly or indirectly?



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,327 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    I still think Crimea is off the table for the foreseeable. IMHO it's more a geopolitical football for both Ukraine and Russia to kick back and forth. Eastern Donbas similarly. Why? Well a lot of Crimea's Ukrainians left or were forced to leave, like the Tartars before them. Good oul Russia... Donbas has been a civil warzone for ten years and the kindling was there before that. So in both cases there are more pro Russians in both areas, especially since this current Russian invasion/war.

    As I was saying earlier, IMHO Russia lost the second they crossed the border. Even if they had managed to take the whole country, they'd still be losing. If a people don't want you in their country, you WILL lose and you WILL leave. The only question left to answer is how many people have to die before you do. The only conflict in modern history where this didn't happen was after the fall of nazi Germany. Even then West Germany was autonomous within a decade and though East Germans had to wait another 30 plus years, while Russia had to build walls to keep them in, in they end they had to leave there too. Ditto for Poland and the other ex Eastern Bloc nations. Ditto for the US in Iraq, Vietnam, Afghanistan and Russia in the latter too. More of their soldiers were killed after they took those places. Ukraine would be the same. Look at "dropped cigarettes" and car bombs behind Russian lines. There's none of that behind Ukrainian lines. That speaks volumes. I strongly suspect if Ukraine were to go back to her pre 2014 border, they'd be the ones dealing with that.

    It's the land bridge between them that's most certainly up for grabs. Yes Russia drove out many pro Ukrainian folks, or they left when Russia was blasting the hell out of the place, but there's a LOT more Ukrainian support on the ground, however quiet they have to keep it now.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,398 ✭✭✭SortingYouOut


    Not even a crudely drawn penis or tits, I was only thinking the same to myself earlier.

    Beverly Hills, California



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    I read that three times before I realised the fighter jets didn't have human arms, but weapons



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,790 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    An excellent presentation. Some good points from about 14.20 onwards. Essentially, we may dismiss and belittle Russia and their capabilities, but that would be a mistake. They're not stupid. They have adapted in past conflicts, to devastating effect.

    They also have an uncanny knack of finding solutions to problems using whatever they have around them.

    There were also comments about the supposed unreliability of their missile launch systems. That, in my opinion, would be a definite underestimation. One thing Russia is very, very good at is producing and maintaining launch systems. Up to this year, Russia, with the Soyuz system, had the most reliable launch system in the world. Then along came the Falcon 9.

    My point is, now is not the time for the West or Ukraime to become complacent. None of us really know what's going on on the ground.

    Highly recommend this video...




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 610 ✭✭✭Bitcoin


    Interesting comments about the orcs redeploying forces from the east to more defensive positions.

    I can smell this offensive is near.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 610 ✭✭✭Bitcoin


    This is a very likely scenario in my book.

    The Ukrainians have been very clever about all this. They started this war at a huge disadvantage to the orcs, but over the course of the year they've massively closed the gap. If we're not already there, the moment when Ukraine is the stronger is coming very soon.

    Once the scales tip in favour of Ukraine, this war ends as the orcs will simply have nothing left to fight with. This moment is coming a lot soon than people realise, could see it happening June/July personally.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,160 ✭✭✭ParkRunner


    You could probably call what the value of a bitcoin will be in June/July with the same confidence!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 610 ✭✭✭Bitcoin


    He'll probably try to say that he meant the culmination of the orc defeat 😜



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,418 ✭✭✭Field east


    A good question to ask the Muscovite ambassador to Australia. It is probably not true re the fate of that 15 yo girl and his daughter but ask him to check it out and report back!!!!!!!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,721 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Wonder how many SVR Illegals in Ireland? We have weak counter-intelligence, like Slovenia.

    Liam Smaul, a retired Special Branch detective who worked in counter-intelligence, said: “There are likely to be many agents with Irish citizenship and networks of Russian illegals living in Ireland. Russian spying is no longer confined to intelligence officers working from the embassy.”

    "When people started arriving here from Russia and the former Soviet Union in the Nineties we looked at it as an immigration issue and not as a security one,” added Smaul, who recalls how some ethnic Russians often claimed to be Moldovan or Georgian.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,167 ✭✭✭✭briany


    @greenpilot

    Essentially, we may dismiss and belittle Russia and their capabilities, but that would be a mistake. They're not stupid. They have adapted in past conflicts, to devastating effect.

    They also have an uncanny knack of finding solutions to problems using whatever they have around them.

    ......

    My point is, now is not the time for the West or Ukraime to become complacent. None of us really know what's going on on the ground

    I see a few posters getting excited about the possibility of a devastating Ukrainian counteroffensive and a rout of Russian forces by the end of Summer or that Russian forces are spent. I agree that this is getting a fair bit ahead of ourselves.

    I don't think it is being complacent, though, to point out that Russia's invasion of Ukraine up until now has so far been a failure with respect to their 24/02/2022 objectives and that they've gone backwards in terms of territory held.

    I don't own a crystal ball and can certainly not rule out the idea of Russia turning this around, but I have to ask what the timeframe is on that and further ask whether Russia can fight as long as it would take. Afghanistan, as one example, puts paid to this idea that Russia can always win a war if they're given enough time and it's not the only historical example of Russia losing a war.

    If Russia are to turn this one around (which I hope they don't) it also begs the question of what they're looking at doing differently, if anything at all, because that's not something I see anyone talking about. Are they looking at doing something differently? Because what they're doing right now does not appear to be working in terms of advancing across Ukraine.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,624 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    But what can they do differently?

    Their elite forces are dead. Their mercenary forces are dying and under rogue control anyway. The quality of their recruits and conscripts is abject and even if it wasn't, these people don't want to fight for Putin and they are deployed under coercion and under threat of reprisal against their families, with basically no training.

    Their armour is gone. Their fighter bombers and attack helicopters have been massively depleted. Their artillery and longer range missiles have been almost depleted and as an economy, Russia doesn't have the capacity to replace them effectively and quickly.

    It absolutely doesn't have the technology to repair and replace the digital systems that comprise and run their command and control network and more advanced weapons systems.

    So my question to those who think there is a risk, or indeed a liklihood of Russia turning this War around would be; how?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 510 ✭✭✭AerLingus747


    they are in Ireland under the "Temporary Protection Directive" ... which is a subset of the "International Protection Directive" (Asylum).

    This give them access to a country in an almost "lift and shift" function ... but as the name says, it's temporary, it was originally to March 2023, but was recently extended to March 2024 ...

    In short, people under TPD have more rights than an asylum seeker, but less than a Citizen.

    When this temporary notice ends, they have pretty much 3 options:

    -try and continue to claim refugee status, which will at some point put them on the asylum seeker route

    -get Irish citizenship via fast track (marriage, pregnancy etc...)

    -apply for normal non-EU work permit

    there is a 4th outlier which may or may not happen of fast track Irish citizenship, I'm sure you'd love that.


    But no matter what the anti-immigrant marches would like you to believe, they don't get automatic settled status...



  • Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Russians decimated by mortar artillery trying to attack an Ukrainian trench

    Looks lke they called in artillery and nearly hit their own positions




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 510 ✭✭✭AerLingus747


    It's been standard ops since the Rivet Joint incident early this year (late last year?)

    Typhoons from Akrotiri usually meet the Rivet Joint over Romania after tanking...

    Even though you won't see it, a lot of the Rivet Joint flights (RAF and USAF) are escorted in international waters now.... the Kaliningrad flights are regularly protected by whichever airforce is on Baltic Police duties and are regularly intercepted by the Russians.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,167 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Fair enough, although it's worth pointing out that Leopard 1 tanks, which Ukraine are using, first came into service nearly 60 years ago themselves, and this is probably a point being raised on Russian propaganda networks. A point we would counter with service history and retrofitting of new equipment being more important than a tank's mere age. Therefore, when we say that Russia is putting out 70 year old tanks, it's just worth qualifying that with whether they're deploying them exactly as they had been when they were mothballed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 510 ✭✭✭AerLingus747




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,047 ✭✭✭jmreire


    The quality of life in Poland was not great either a few years ago, but after joining the EU, that has all changed. Its a different country now, as proved by the Nrs that left the UK after Brexit, and the EU generally during Covid, but did not return. Any ex- USSR Country has the same story to tell. And this is one reason why Putin invaded Ukraine, not because of NATO, but because he did not want the same success story emanating in Ukraine. It would have been like the horses looking over the hedge at the lush green fields next to them, while trying to survive on the poor grass in their own field. For sure, depending on how long the war drags on, a certain % will put down roots here in Ireland and remain, but for many, Ukraine is their home, and their history and that's where they will return too. I remember meeting a Chechen on flight one time while in Russia, He was returning back home to Grozny, after spending more than 10 years in Miami. When I expressed my surprise that anyone would swap the life in the US for the life in Chechnya, with the war in full swing, and the city leveled from the Russian bombing, he explained, that yes, the life in the US was indeed very good, he had made a lot of money, but his real life was in Chechnya, with its traditions and culture. And his place in Chechen society was more valuable to him than Life in the US,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    The difference is they had transponders on so everyone knew exactly what was flying along side



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 510 ✭✭✭AerLingus747


    transponders are usually always on....just not broadcasting Mode-S extended squitter



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,167 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Another thing is that this war is not existential for Russia. Russia knew its existence was on the line in 1940 and that was a big motivator in every able-bodied Russian doing their bit. Does every Russian believe so strongly about what is happening in Ukraine? Are Russians as motivated to fight? I think, perhaps, that they are not.



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