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What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,233 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    Then the courts will throw it out. Nothing to worry about.

    We are told that, for example, justice system is not biased against minorities, yet you are accepting that the legal system can be easily manipulated for political aims.

    Every politician can easily claim that. Would prove impossible to ever hold them to account for anything



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,667 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Wasn't quite 79 million. It was just over 74 million. Still the most votes a Republican party candidate has ever received, although possibly not the most if weighted against population over time. His opponent, however, received 81 million votes - another record breaking amount.

    A big problem with Trump is that some of those votes were likely against him rather than for the other guy, and this is a quality he possesses (I don't use that word in a positive sense), that if anyone is going to mobilise the opposing voting bloc, it's going to be Donald J. Trump, because whether an exciting prospect or an appalling one, people basically know what a Trump presidency will entail and how he will conduct himself in the role.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,667 ✭✭✭✭briany


    You can't put outlawing of gender fluid pronouns on the table and feed your family with it. It'll always be about the economy, primarily, not some culture war non-issues that the media likes to inflate because it generates ratings.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,545 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ten of Swords


    @extra gravy do not post in this thread again



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,897 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Story from the New York times about more lying and coercion at Fox.

    *Insert shocked face*

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,781 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien


    When you wake up thinking today is the day Trump gets arrested, then you remember he's a massive liar and nothing in fact, is going to happen today.

    happy-sad.gif




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,021 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    Yes all those barracades outside the manhatten courthouse are all for nowt



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,697 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    So is today finally the day?

    I still don’t believe it’s happening.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,790 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Some reports saying its later in the week or early next week but Trump wanted to try whip something up first



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,730 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't happen today considering Trump announced what day he was going to be arrested and ended his post telling people to protest. Probably a chance they'll delay the arrest to avoid or reduce confrontation.



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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,289 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub



    If Trump was to run in 2024 and win he would still be the 45th President of the United States.

    But , it's moot as he is not going to win

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,289 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Trump had some crony of his testify yesterday to try to refute Cohens testimony. Trump claimed it was going to be "block-buster" testimony that would blow the case out of the water blah blah blah.

    So his plan was to announce "They are arresting me on Tuesday" a few days ago , then have his stooge give evidence yesterday and when he isn't arrested today he will claim it's because "they are running scared" after his guy "destroyed their case" and so on.

    All nonsense of course , but it keeps the "base" excited and sending him money.

    The guy Trump sent is the lawyer that was accused of trying to buy Cohen off with the offer of a pardon during the original case btw. so he's not exactly an honest broker in this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,730 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    He'd be both 45th and 47th President. Grover Cleveland is listed as the 22nd and 24th President as he served two single non-consecutive terms.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,970 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    I think Quins point is he was referred to as the 22nd president in both presidencies, it’s a nothing argument though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,716 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    Nah. Nothing is gonna happen. His cult members won't even show up in big numbers. There'll be the usual suspects to see if JFK jnr turns up to defend trump/announce he's gonna run for VP.

    But this time there won't be a riot. They'll leave that to 2024 when they have another insurrection attempt in Washington.

    It surely does seem strange though that they are starting with the Stormy Daniels thing when there are much much MUCH bigger crimes. Hopefully it is, as some have suggested, that this is simply working through the cases as they finally start to hit court. I suppose he's gonna have a busy 2023/2024 as they start hitting court.

    But as for today, I doubt anything will even be announced. There will be some protests (As is their right). There is be some minor violence that will result in some being pepper-sprayed. Then we will have them on fox moaning about how they are tourists who got sprayed and his people here decrying police brutality without irony.


    Then... hunter's Laptop.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,730 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    That's fair. I just remember this discussion happening before which is where I learned about Grover Cleveland. I'm sure Trump would be pushing for himself to be referred to as the 47th President, just so he can sell recycled merch with 45 changed to 47.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,256 ✭✭✭Rawr


    Blow their trumpet? I live in Scandinavia mate, and I have yet to see people blowing any instrument on the matter, festivly or otherwise. For someone who says that they are not a Trump fan, I am getting a very MAGA vibe from what you are writing.

    You keep declaring him the 47th President in your posts, suggesting that the MAGA-crowd aren't racist (but many clearly are alas) and now I detect some kind of Pro-Choice Hollywood Conspricacy in the tone of this text. We have Trump fans here, you wouldn't be alone, but please be honest about it if you are.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,162 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    But why are they outside the DAs office? Trump wont be going there even if he is arrested. What they should be doing is protesting outside Mar-a-lago and preventing law enforcement from going in to arrest him. Which would be hilarious as in 2021 DeSantis passed a law that made it illegal to block a public road



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,790 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    yeah this lawyer Trump has put up seems a red herring to try and discredit Cohen. Problem for Trump is there are reports saying the grand jury found Michael Cohen to be a compelling witness and prosecutors were pleased they asked him back for testimony a second time and they spent a couple of hours asking him questions about his testimony. Prosecutors said a grand jury being engaged to that level is a good signal for it to go to a full trial.

    Have also read that when he is arrested he will do a perp walk but he wont be handcuffed. Probably as he would use those photographs to say look at what the Democrats have done to me, first they stole the election and now this blah de blah. He'll play the victim so no point cuffing him to help him play it even better.

    I think the cops are taking this too seriously anyway, there wont be the mass scale protests Trump is hoping for as there isnt a central place for them to gather. I can see MAGA heads protesting outside the various state parliaments but only in small numbers, we are not going to see any repeat of Jan 6th as his supporters are littered all over the country. Im more interested in the Georgia charges anyway, this Stormy Daniels stuff is small compared to actually trying to steal an election.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,289 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    They won't turn up in numbers for him and cause trouble

    They did that on January 6th and he hung them out to dry - Collected loads of money for the "defence fund" and didn't give a single penny to any of them that were charged.

    A few elderly weirdos in hats and t-shirts will turn up with banners etc. but the "gravy seals" that were around on January 6th will stay away.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,716 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    Gravy Seals... Hahahahhahahahah



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Fox is rightly fucked on the dominion case, one of their producers flipped and is filing suit against Fox News for illegally coaching her to give false and misleading testimony that damaged her reputation to benefit Fox News.




  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,289 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,162 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    To those complaining that the Manhattan DA has no business prosecuting Trump after prosecutors decided not to, well, they didnt decide not to prosecute trump. They were told not to. Colour me shocked.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭archermoo


    The fact that the Wall Street Journal and Washington Post have both published editorials from people who want to convince others that it wasn't an insurrection doesn't mean that the papers support those opinions. As to the "many millions" those same people think that Trump actually won the election, so I don't think I'm going to put any stock in their opinions. An insurrection is a violent uprising against an authority or government. The idiots in question stormed Congress to try and stop them from confirming the winner of the election. With weapons. And people died. The fact that it failed doesn't stop it from having been an insurrection. And if it isn't punished then it will just have been a practice run.

    Though I do agree that it is unlikely that Trump will ever actually have to pay for his crimes. The justice system in the US is stacked very much in favour of the rich and/or powerful.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,697 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    I don’t think it’s happening. 😞



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,240 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Looks like ye will have to save the mountains of popcorn for another day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 962 ✭✭✭Burty330


    The fact the editor in chief of both left-wing publications would allow such pieces to be published proves there is a discussion to be had on whether it was an insecurrition or not. Even left leaning people do not agree with redefining words and changing language to suit agendas

    An insecurrition is not a "violent uprising against the government" Thats what comes up when you type the word into google and it describes a riot , violent protest etc. This simplistic definition would describe the violent protest on the white house that moved Trump into the bunker as an insurrection.

    An insurrection is violent action that is taken by a large group of people against the rulers of their country, usually in order to remove them from office.

    The intent to remove government from office is what distinguishes a riot from an insurrection. Its an insult to someone's intelligence to say that the crowd went to the capitol with the intent to violently overthrow the government. Its absurd.

    They went to protest which is a right protected by the amendment. just like the two years previous the protest got violent. Its worth remembering that nobody is saying they were right , it wasn't as bad as it seems , they were only tourists or whatever. It got pretty bad. But if that was a real insurrection it would have been a blood bath as that building is one of the most well guarded and protected sites in America. It also begs the question why the insurrection wasn't foiled before it began and why it was allowed to gain momentum?? Surely you don't believe US intelligence were unaware an insecurrition was being planned and organized and enacted to keep Trump in the white house ?


    If you what to know what a real insecurrition is and why the term is being misused read this post from a true blue Democrat.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭archermoo


    Both of those publications publish far right editorials all of the time.

    The 6 January insurrection was literally an attempt to stop the duly elected President from being able to take office. That is what the people who were doing it said at the time that they were doing it. They were there to stop Congress from declaring Biden the winner. Trying to pretend after the fact that it was "just a protest" is laughable.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 962 ✭✭✭Burty330


    You're fully entitled to hold that opinion. The failure to address even the most basic observations about that day denotes opinion based on ideology.



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