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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,207 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    I am curious as to why Biden would get approval for $100m to fund the training of Ukrainian pilots when it's seemingly never had any intention of supplying them with planes?

    And that was 9 months ago.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,052 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Its all about Cowardly Putins personal safety. While his lookalike is parading around in the public eye, risking his life, Putin is safe and sound in his luxurious suite in the Kremlin (or where ever he is now) far from covid or similarly infected people, or an assassination attempt.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,052 ✭✭✭jmreire


    And what will happen to Russia then if it does that? Shortly after Russia itself would glow so green, you would think that they were still celebrating St Patricks Day....Actually no, thats nit what would happen, but Russia have been guaranteed that if they resort to any kind of use of nuclear weapons / Dirty Bomb. their military will be annihilated, using conventional weapons. Plus nearly every other Country in the world ( inc. China) would turn against them ( Nth Korea being a possible exception,) If Putin could have used an atomic weapon ( even a so called "limited yield bomb) and gotten away with it, he'd have done it before now, given all the Russian Red Lines that have been crossed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,052 ✭✭✭jmreire


    There's a post on here showing a Ukrainian soldier in a trench saying " Thank God, they are so stupid!!! Or as I have heard said, " if only they had half a brain, they might get dangerous"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,723 ✭✭✭Rawr


    And that's assuming the Russian Federation even has a functional Nuclear arsenal anymore.

    I can fully imagine an oligarc being given the billions of rubles needed to keep such a complex operation going, and then out of the corner of his eye spot the price tag of with the Super-Yacht we wanted to buy, so that he could sail to Monaco with his trouphy wife....and mistresses....while taking a break from the huge dacha he built with the money that was earmarked for the Armata tank-system.

    All the while,he saved a few Kopecks to throw at the old Soviet closed cities, to keep them closed with poorly paid troops and decades old bureacracy. But within those cities are the missle silos, with missles left to rot...just like the Buran shuttles. But the appearance of the Nukes remain. Russia still appears to be armed with them.

    I feel that if any of the above matches reality, and the world finds out...all bets are off. A confirmed non-Nuclear Russia is toast in any fight with NATO.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,756 ✭✭✭Pa ElGrande


    That is all wishful thinking on your part. Sit back and relax in your comfy chair.

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    Net Zero means we are paying for the destruction of our economy and society in pursuit of an unachievable and pointless policy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Did someone suggest that Russia would threaten to nuke the Hague recently,,,,


    Mr Medvedev says hi .....






  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,052 ✭✭✭jmreire


    if I remember correctly, Putin was told that his military would be destroyed using conventional weapons, not nuclear.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,723 ✭✭✭Rawr


    I would agree with that too. My thinking was that if the threat of Nukes was gone, then it's more likely for a conventional NATO force to roll in and use their conventional weapons to defeat the Russians.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,808 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    You can only laugh that China is going to "discuss" a peace deal for Ukraine with Russia

    The axis of evil discussing a deal together when Russia started the war



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭RGARDINR


    Hopefully Ukraine can do the job over the next few months.

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    Things could change outside anyone's control in regards to supplying Ukraine with money and military equipment etc. Just look what is happening in regards a few banks and the jitters that is causing there. If and I say big If like the bank financial crisis back in 2008 if that happened again or anything like that you would see countries maybe not giving as much help as they are at the moment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,500 ✭✭✭zv2


    If they lose 44 million come to Europe as refugees...

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭RGARDINR


    A lot would a hell of a lot more would you are right there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,188 ✭✭✭✭briany


    I don't recall the US being unable to maintain their occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan during and after the 2008 recession. Obama did pull forces out of Iraq, but downscaling the number of deployed troops was a campaign promise.

    Suffice it to say that if the US has the political will to back Ukraine, they will find the money. It always seems to be the way in war. It just so happens that backing Ukraine against Russia is a military policy of the US's I agree with, as opposed to the occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭RGARDINR


    Yeah true if they have to find the money they will. Just hopefully it's something that doesn't happen and its not something Ukraine have to worry about.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,207 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    You are right to wonder. Technically I understand that a nuclear weapon is not like a Mk82 or a landmine that can simply be stored for decades and then pulled out and it will just likely work. They have a shelf life as the electronics and stuff get fried and degraded by the radiation and the all important chemical explosives used to push the radioactive bits together rapidly also degrade relatively quickly. Nuclear warheads have a shelf-life and need to be refurbished extensively every couple of decades. The cost is enormous.

    Even the missiles that launch the warheads need regular maintainance, like replacing the batteries that run the electronics. With my experience with electrolytic capacitors expiring rapidly, I wouldn't be surprised if the electronics need refurbishing every couple of decades also.

    Given there doesn't appear to be any area in which military funds haven't been syphoned off via corruption, I doubt the Orc nuclear arsenal has suffered any less.

    When Biden was in Kyiv, it was suggested Putrid ordered a test firing of a Satan nuclear missile and that it failed. Some months ago when they sent that big nuclear sub north to test the Neptune 'doomsday' torpedo, that test failed also.

    I strongly suspect Putrid's big red button is looking more a sickly shade of yellow these days.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,071 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Russia is still an Empire, it doesn't just think it is.


    That's an important distinction.


    The peak of Russian Imperial power was manifest in the Soviet Union, no doubt there.


    There are a lot of nations and tribes in the Russian State.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,071 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    There is no reason to think it was a double.


    Not that it has any relevance either way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    So who did putard meet in Mariupol locals they say,

    Locals Russian military who have all previously been photographed with him of course.





  • Posts: 4,503 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The usual's will be on in a moment to deflect but...

    The above posts are true, unfortunately. However what's more unfortunate - this is where the tankies will want to practice their ridicule - is the cause of the war is muscovy imperialism. That doesn't require putrid, any dictator that believes in that imperialism will still meddle with and invade neighbouring countries. I believe unless muscovy is resolutely defeated on the battlefield we'll see much worse than putrid - which isn't a statement standing up for him. Remember the borders of muscovy stop nowhere. Still, today is the cheapest day ever to put a stop to this empire. "War fatigue" will result in witnessing larger wars. Has anyone experienced a bully stopping because they gained something from nothing?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,207 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Ukraine air chief: my best pilots are dying while we wait for F-16s

    General Serhii Holubtsov says his men can learn to fly western jets in months, dismissing Nato claims that training could take years

    An American assessment of Ukrainian fighter pilots has revealed they would be ready to fly F-16 jets after fewer than six months of training, their commander has told The Times.

    In his first interview since President Putin’s tanks crossed the border last year, General Serhii Holubtsov, chief of aviation of Ukraine’s air force, said that two of his pilots had returned to the country last week after a rigorous assessment by the US military.

    “They spent three weeks there and were trained on an F-16 simulator how to fly together as two pilots using weapons. The results came out very good: Ukrainian pilots can learn to fly and operate weapons systems on the F-16 in less than six months,” he said.

    Whoops, there goes that take too long to train argument. Biden has generally been fairly good, but I agree with the Republicans who have accused him of having no clear goal or strategy. I remain convinced he doesn't want Ukraine to win, the aid has been provided far to slowly and in a miserly dribble with all sort of stupid excuses trotted out to justify it. I no longer think Ukraine can win with what it's got and with what weapons have been provided and promised.

    There are numerous opinions that their military has just lost way too many of their most experienced and best troops. You can see this in Bakhmut. they just lost another very experienced and highly regarded medic a day or so ago. If the Orcs are losing 500 a day killed in Bakhmut, Ukraine must be losing 71 killed and likely 210+ wounded. In just one month that's 2143 killed and 7200 wounded. Thats over 9,000 a month. I am fairly certain that the rate of mobilisation and training can't remotely counter that.

    I thought for a while the Bradleys might be enough to swing, it, but no more. They need a significant edge and it's not being provided. The Czech president, who's a former general, Petr Pavel is likely right about Ukraine having one shot and fatigue setting in.

    Biden needs to either stop the pretence or ramp things up and enable the supply of far more weapons, stop lying about secrets falling into the wrong hands, and enable the provision of significant air power and weapons that go with that.

    Air power has been the cornerstone of every US engagement since the Gulf War. Biden needs to ask himself is supplying Ukraine with air power more dangerous than Ukraine failing, the Orcs winning and Poland then trying to fix the mess he caused?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,123 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    The next batch of scumbags grateful to the serial killer for rape has been identified, writes Mariupol mayor's adviser Piotr Andryushchenko.


    On video from Nevsky

    1. Lotkova Ekaterina, lived at Mashinostroitelnaya 88, in the background is her husband, Lotkov Dmitry (2), during the war and the bombings, they looted the chicken shop. The man who shows the apartment is Lotkov's father (3) Bondarenko Alexey, nicknamed Chemist. A friend of the Lotkovys.


    https://instagram.com/lotkovaekaterina?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=


    https://instagram.com/lotkovdmitrii?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=


    +380717301785 ee telegram number


    https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100013790089581


    https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100017301090507


    https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100015481966325

    That Tweet you quoted is incorrect.

    The people that Putin met have already been identified by the Ukrainians as local collaborators.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    The Poles. Poland has offered significant support to Ukraine over the past year in terms of providing a conduit for supplies from other states, supplying their own armaments, taking refugees etc. They're also the most likely to step in with direct military assistance and that is beginning to look increasingly likely.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,233 ✭✭✭Addmagnet



    Even the missiles that launch the warheads need regular maintainance, like replacing the batteries that run the electronics. With my experience with electrolytic capacitors expiring rapidly, I wouldn't be surprised if the electronics need refurbishing every couple of decades also.

    Back in the 80s I worked for the UK MoD calibrating batteries from Swingfire missiles (amongst others). Happy days, an' all that 🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,863 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Blondie must be feeling left out, she usually gets invited to all the gigs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,731 ✭✭✭storker


    It seems to me that if Poland feels a need to get involved, then the best time would be before Kyiv is defeated.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,052 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Plus I think that the isotopes that they use in their nuclear weapons has a limited shelf life? I'm no expert, just read it somewhere, but maybe some one who knows about such things might elaborate? If true, that would be a major spoke in Russia's nuclear wheel's.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,362 ✭✭✭Sigma101


    It's really depressing to see Xi Jinping arriving in Moscow just a couple of days after the ICC issued an arrest warrant for Putin.

    The world is splitting in two, and today's visit feels like another milestone on the path to a much, much bigger conflict.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,052 ✭✭✭jmreire


    After Putins invasion of Georgia, he was so disappointed by his army, that he pumped literally billions into it, complete refurbishment from top to bottom. Which maybe helps explain why he was confident to invade Ukraine, after all, he had the 2nd best army in the world ( on paper anyway, and all the receipts) But when push came to shove, it was just a paper tiger.



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