Toyota bz4X

I was told end of March. No specific dates.

This morning, on the way to Dublin, coming from the Galway side, I saw a truck which amongst other cars, had a Toyota bZ4X too. Exactly my colour, precious metal.... Who knows....

Model Y RWD will do 360 kms even at motorway speeds for majority of journey

So after one month of use, my opinion.

At 80 percent charge, when a/c or heater is on, car shows 200km range. That is not acceptable.

Everybody who booked are waiting for their delivery at the end of March. I would advice you to ask your dealer whether there will be any improvement after May software update; otherwise I will advice you to cancel your booking. Every 5 minutes,when the car is idle, range decreases. In Ireland, from my use of the car around 60 hours in a week, either a/c or heater need to be turned on for a comfortable ride.

From the above guy's YouTube reviews and looking at other videos, I would advice you to cancel your booking and book for a Tesla Model Y, though you may have to wait for few more months.

I will wait until May and planning to return the car because 200km range at 80 percent is unacceptable.

from a few days ago.....

@vimalandrew hopefully you can get rid fairly pronto..... especially if the May update doesn't change a whole lot!!!! I'd wait until then at least, and see what Bjorn has to say when he gets another crack at the range test & 1,000km challenge, but I suspect it won't get a whole lot better....

Software update might give it a bit more range, but it'll do feck all for the terrible efficiency!

You've a very strong case for going back to your dealer and asking them to take the car back! They would have no problem moving it on quickly at very close to retail price. That car would be fine for plenty of people but clearly does not work for you. I'm not sure how your PCP would be affected or what car you could get instead and when but it might be your best option.

@80% charge, as you say, the range is around 215k with all bells ans whistles on. And this would represent the worst case scenario, unless you're flying on the motorway with 120km/h.

If this is correct, then a full charge would bring another roughly 55km. Adding the 30-40 that will be released after the update this woukd mean a range of at least 300km using the heating, on cold enough weather.

Aren't we back to square one when all this was already known?

I'm not playing neither pro nor against the car and I am one of the ones hoping to get it at the end of March, if my dealer told me the truth.

My own circumstances are that I need to drive from Galway to Dublin once a week so that leaves me in the position where charging fully at home won't bring me back home unless I use public charging. However, I'm OK with it, I'm expecting it, I'm taking it in account (I manged 5 years with a 24kwh Leaf, no Dublin trip though, with absolutely zero problems and 26k km a year).

EVs are not suitable to everyone at present so careful planning need to be done before such purchase, but for those who it is suitable is a great purchase.

Vim I think I see your problem... You're driving upside down so no wonder you're efficiency is poor 🤦‍♂️

It's 25.7 kwh/100km

That isn't bad at all especially for this time of year, anything in the 20's is good considering the type of driving you're doing. Is that since you got the car or just the latest charge?

Now its exactly one month and my car meter reading shows mileage of 2447 km.

I can see from my ESB app that I charged for 583 KWh.

I always use minimum fan and 19 degree temperature.

Now tell me whether the car is okay or not. 90 percent of the driving was in residential areas.

If my maths is correct that is about 23.8kWh/100km. But that figure includes charging losses, which the car's computer will not show. Assuming 10% charging losses, then your actual figure is probably about 21.6kWh/100km. Not great, but not terrible either for a lot of stop/start driving without a heat pump. I would imagine my Model 3 for similar driving (Driven smoothly) would show somewhere around 13 to 15kWh/100km at this time of year.

Now in carzone, I can see 5 bz4xs are in sale. It looks like some people have returned the car back. Three of them have driven for more than 1000 km. Not sure people are returning it and I should do that or not or should I wait until May when there is a software update. Last week only 2 of them were in carzone.

Those are likely demo models from the dealers.