What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

everlast75 · 06-03-2023 02:01PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120320669#Comment_120320669

What would they know - they are only RINOs after all...

archermoo · 06-03-2023 02:03PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120320748#Comment_120320748

Most politicians are in it for the power. A lot are also in it for the money. The GOP in the US takes both to an entirely different level. And they aren't generally interested in making their policies more attractive to voters. They're much more interested in stopping people that aren't likely to vote for them from voting.

And yeah, I have absolutely no doubt that he could shoot someone in the middle of 5th avenue in New York City in cold blood and not only not lose a single voter, but also not be arrested. He might eventually be arrested, but it certainly wouldn't happen right away. He wouldn't even need to come up with an excuse for his voters as to why he did it. He would just need to wait for them to come up with one for him.

Igotadose · 06-03-2023 02:08PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120320820#Comment_120320820

A comment I saw somewhere pretty much captures the GQP: They don't want to govern, they want to rule. Maniacal realtors like MTG embody that.

Shooting someone on 5th avenue is so yesterday. I updated Trump to Palm Beach since I don't think he's in NYC much anymore. By the way, that Breaker's place makes a delicious crab meat salad, when she was alive my Mom always enjoyed it when I took her there for lunch. Definitely an 'old money vibe' to the place, but beautifully landscaped and great views of the Atlantic.

Rawr · 06-03-2023 02:22PM

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He's useful as a symbol for the GOP to harvest votes from a wide swaith of people they'd normally avoid like the plague. Posssibly the closest thing they've ever had to a living, breathing Logo for the party as a whole. It is a misguided and stupid strategy, and they really should have taken one of the many oppertunites to be rid of him, but so far it looks like they still have no trouble appeasing him to keep the MAGA vote with him.

The maddening thing is, the MAGA vote was never likely to turn Democrat or 3rd Party, and Trump can't be arsed to actually make his own party. They don't need Trump to keep the MAGA voters on-side, they will vote GOP, with or without Trump. It might be that they won't be bothered to vote unless Trump is part of it, but I can't imagine that percentage of the vote to be worth the near decade of stupidity they have sullied themselves with.

Either the Orange Dimwit finally pays for his lifestyle choices (saving the GOP a job) or something prevents him from taking up the GOP ticket again. Failing that, the idiots will still back him until they can come up with a better idea....

archermoo · 06-03-2023 03:15PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120320864#Comment_120320864

That is exactly it. And that has been the case since well before Trump came on the scene. In the 80s they were pretty open about wanting to restrict who is able to vote. Public policies like "we don't need MORE voters, we need BETTER voters". Meaning voters willing to vote for them.

And yeah, I've never been to Florida. And with everything going on there currently it isn't on my list of places I'll be going anytime in the near future. Not a climate I have any interest in anyway. I don't deal with hot very well. Part of the reason I'm in Ireland now. :)

MisterAnarchy · 06-03-2023 06:41PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120312739#Comment_120312739

The Conways marriage is the victim because George kept shooting his mouth off and acting like a moody teenager.

His wife worked for Trump but George decided to poop on his own doorstep each and every day, he isnt the brightest.

What did he expect.

Igotadose · 06-03-2023 06:49PM

Kellyanne could have quit at any time, but chose to put TFG ahead of her marriage despite her husband's public disdain for him and his work to undermine TFG via the Lincoln Project. Clearly not a family-first person, not in keeping with GQP's professed values, but this was the TFG administration we're talking about. Her interactions with her daughter indicated things weren't well at home, but despite both these issues, she stayed loyal to TFG.

And as for moody teenagers, hey, it's better than a tantrum-throwing ketchup flinger who is now claiming to be the "retribution" for the GQP if elected.

George's tweets didn't seem moody - he was very consistent, TFG was and is a clear and present danger to Democracy in the US, his fantasy-filled thugspeak at the CPAC is just the most current reminder of such.

ohnonotgmail · 06-03-2023 09:04PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120322127#Comment_120322127

Yeah, George was the problem in that relationship. LOL.

duploelabs · 06-03-2023 09:24PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120322777#Comment_120322777

I wonder if she tested out 'alternative facts' on George first before using it in public

briany · 06-03-2023 09:35PM

@Rawr

He's useful as a symbol for the GOP to harvest votes from a wide swaith of people they'd normally avoid like the plague. Posssibly the closest thing they've ever had to a living, breathing Logo for the party as a whole. It is a misguided and stupid strategy, and they really should have taken one of the many oppertunites to be rid of him, but so far it looks like they still have no trouble appeasing him to keep the MAGA vote with him.

They can't really get rid of Trump when Trump has been and perhaps still is what their voting base demands. Trump will only go away when his numbers drop or he dies.

Faugheen · 06-03-2023 09:59PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120322127#Comment_120322127

Just so I'm clear.

George Conway was the problem and not his lying, bigotted wife?

You're so firmly in the Trump fan base but you'll still deny it. Pathetic.

TheIrishGrover · 07-03-2023 07:25AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120322900#Comment_120322900

Dies? DIES?!?! Some of his ... fans are so deluded they think JFK jnr faked his own death and is going to come back and run for VP with him. THIS is the mentality of the people the GQP Court these days. You only have to see their arguments here to see their grasp on reality. He is singing songs and raising money (which nobody will see) with his fellow insurrectionists. People on this very thread denied Jan 6 happened. People on this thread said that he didn't condone and support white supremacist groups. People on this thread support him despite (maybe BECAUSE of) his self-professed history of sexual assault, of racism and homophobia, of hatred of America, of intimidation and threats-on-life of political opposition, of appempted election tampering. Every SINGLE one of these from his own mouth. Every one.

So, to his cult here, in the US, wherever, death is not a limiting factor.

If Jesus can come back from the dead, trump (GQP retribution tm) can... and he'll be packing heat!

Rawr · 07-03-2023 08:44AM

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Alas this. I think you encapsulate well the concept that the MAGA crowd are possibly more drawn to the «idea» of Trump. Never mind what the Orange Dimwit does, has done or will do, the «idea» of Trump and what these people make of that is what drives them.

This guy, who can’t even hold a Bible correctly, is somehow God’s Chosen President to some of these people, simply because that’s the «idea» of Trump in their heads.

He’s for everything they are for…even if he never really said it, because that’s their «idea» of Trump. And thanks to him they don’t need to lose elections anymore. They either win, or they are stolen by the left-wing commie Dems (TM).

He is the embodyment of all of their nonsense and even when he dies they’ll envoke him. This is why it is important for all level-headed Americans to remember to get out and outvote these oxygen-thieves every time to ensure that their nation doesn’t drown in this nonsense.

PopePalpatine · 07-03-2023 09:08AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120316061#Comment_120316061

Well, at least she didn't call for genocide like this piece of sh*t: https://www.vice.com/en/article/bvjgnq/cpac-transgenderism-speaker-called-for-eradication

TheIrishGrover · 07-03-2023 09:21AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120323744#Comment_120323744

And thanks to him they don’t need to lose elections anymore.

And this is key. We KNOW that this will be the case. Because, again, his ... fans here and everywhere are ALREADY doing this. They tried to steal the election by limiting mail-in ballots by trump putting in one of his croneys to gut the postal service (Causing deaths), by election tampering (We ALL heard the call). By voter intimidation (We ALL saw the trucks trying to drive people off the road). And, in the end, insurrection and murder.

So you are right. The GQP will NOT lose an election for the next 40 or 50 years. Until the GOP rid themselves of the GQP. They will NEVER lose an election. They will, as you say, either win, or it will be stolen.... In which case they will revert to violence and hate... AGAIN. Let's remember folks. This is not conjecture. This is HISTORY! They have form! This is what they have ALREADY done. This is who they are now. I'm waiting for them to finish up their paedophile conference (Or is CPAC already finished?) with The Mandalorian coming out on stage with star-spangled armour. His gun in one hand and Jesus in another and stating "This Is The Way!" (Who cares if Disney own him. What are those woke libtards gonna do?)

I mean if any trump, GQP or GOP supporters think we are wrong about them never losing an election again, please feel free to correct us. Does anyone HONESTLY believe that the GQP/trump will EVER believe an election they didn't win? Honestly? All hyperbole and histrionics aside:

Will The Republican party believe/accept an election defeat within the next 5 cycles? Up to 2050? It is a simple Yes/No answer. And I believe "No".

briany · 07-03-2023 10:03AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120323583#Comment_120323583

Trump will go away when Trump dies. Trumpism won't. I think it's already been established that Trumpism is the defining ideology of the Republican party with or without Trump, but the Republican party old guard, like Mitch McConnell, would vastly prefer someone far less chaotic who can be brought to heel.

PropJoe10 · 07-03-2023 12:52PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120322127#Comment_120322127

So basically you're saying that the person telling the truth was the issue, rather than the person going on national and international news several times a week and spouting easily-provable lies? Interesting, yet not unexpected take on it.

banie01 · 07-03-2023 01:04PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120320669#Comment_120320669

Honestly and this seems like the easy/hyperbolic answer, but there are certain amongst them who see him as malleable to their own agendas. It's all too easy to compare current Trump cult with Nazism. But? It's a very pertinent example. For many on the German right, Hitler was seen as a way to ensure that "they" had a leader in their pocket. One beholden to them and particularly for the industrialists and juncker classes. It was their means of destroying Weimar. I know it's a book most here will have read but the rise and fall of the third reich really does a great job of laying out the complicity of the German industrial and wealthy 1%ers in allowing Hitler seize power.

Now the big difference is, that post 2020. Trump is a loser, an insurrectionist and a political failure. The 1% folk who supported him have pretty much abandoned him, Koch's, Murdoch and others.

The angry white rabble he whipped to a frenzy! Well they are now stuck with him due the sunk cost fallacy. He has them convinced he's a knight in shining armour! Rather than a retard in tinfoil.

07-03-2023 01:33PM

Retard in tinfoil 🤣🤣🤣

extra gravy · 07-03-2023 07:57PM

https://twitter.com/TheGoodLiars/status/1633193317952368644?t=bMfY1dzmeJWovvEjsRj7Rg&s=19

😂😂

Zardoz · 07-03-2023 10:53PM

Oblivion is imminent

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2023/mar/04/donald-trump-cpac-2023-bolsonaro-republicans-us-politics-live

everlast75 · 08-03-2023 06:33AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120327919#Comment_120327919

Just like the caravans are on their way.. just about the time he needs votes

TheIrishGrover · 08-03-2023 09:12AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120307254#Comment_120307254

Bet they go back to his previous defamation defense: 'no reasonable person can take me seriously'

They've already started. What's the betting that's what this was about: "See? Nobody can take this seriously! It's just ENTERTAINMENT!!! Nobody is ACTUALLY saying the Jan 6 riot* didn't take place. It's all just entertainment. Not news! Nobody ACTUALLY believes these people were sightseers"

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64883668

There will be one more similar example from another Hate-Host on fox in the next week or so. So that they have two examples of "entertainment". Their usual lies but dialed up to 11 to draw headlines similar to this.

Their defence has started.

* (They won't say insurrection of course)

duploelabs · 08-03-2023 03:09PM

So let me guess @MisterAnarchy these court submissions are taken out of context right?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64886188

briany · 09-03-2023 11:18AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120328715#Comment_120328715

What does Carson actually believe, then? Like, we've established that he hates Trump and thinks that no reasonable person could possibly believe his nightly spiel. So, when you take Tucker the man as opposed to Tucker the character, what are his actual political stances? Or, more to the point, what would he try and say if someone could get him to answer halfway honestly?

astrofool · 09-03-2023 11:32AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120334149#Comment_120334149

He's planning ahead for a presidential run, likely when trump is no longer around to get angry at him (and he will try and claim all those supporters and likely deify trump in some way). It will be like David Miscavige when he took over scientology after Hubbard's death.

check_six · 09-03-2023 11:38AM

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Carlson is a far right head the ball who wants all the things that entails. Your standard "I've got mine, now pull up the ladder and oppress some of the weaker in society" type stuff. Trump's narcissism and greed is solely centered around himself and what's in it for him. He'd say *anything* as long as there was a baying mob cheering him on. He was a useful idiot for the far right getting things they wanted as a by product of the general chaos. They don't have to like him, as shown by these emails, as long as the fallout is they get things they want like a hyper conservative supreme court.