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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,025 ✭✭✭yellum


    Originally posted by azezil

    Meanwhile i say avoid it like the plague, u allow yourself fall for someone and if its not retured it'll just tear you apart, lifes too short for that kind of hardship you're better off without it.

    I came out because of love. I pictured myself one day in a hospital bed dying with friends and family around me and not having some guy there that I loved and that loved me back. But he didn't have to be there really, it was the thought of dying and not knowing what being truely loved by someone I loved back that spurred me on.

    Love is great. To love someone and have them love back is amazing, although I don't yet know what thats like.

    I fell in love with a guy once and he didn't love me back and then he broke my heart in the most terrible way, but that doesn't stop me from seeking love again.

    If you enjoy the pain of sitting on a thorn fine, stay cynical about love but just know one of the greatest feelings in the world will be missed by you and you will die alone and unhappy even if surrounded by friends and family.

    If the feeling of being in love is great think what its going to be like when its returned. To give up on the quest for that is a waste of an enormous opportunity. You say lifes too short, it is ! Live it to the max and experience it to the max. Yet running away from falling in love won't allow you to live life to the fullest potential.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭azezil


    Once burned twice shy ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 917 ✭✭✭carbonkid


    Originally posted by azezil
    anywho you're right you shouldn't burry your head in the sand, get out there have fun but never allow yourself get too close to anyone it only ends in hurt and hardship. :P


    maybe your right but then you miss out on what makes life worth living or more so who makes life worth living....and then all you left to do is grow old and die all alone never knowing what it is to be loved...to have someone care for your exsistence so much that without you theyre not whole....

    ....until you come together and become one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,436 ✭✭✭Doodee


    Originally posted by carbonkid
    maybe your right but then you miss out on what makes life worth living or more so who makes life worth living....and then all you left to do is grow old and die all alone never knowing what it is to be loved...to have someone care for your exsistence so much that without you theyre not whole....

    ....until you come together and become one

    err, that isn't love. thats dependance. which is a scary thing. Of course if you loved someone enough you would miss them when they are gone, but when it becomes a situation that you cant be without them then you are depending on them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 917 ✭✭✭carbonkid


    yeah...and thats love...no one said its a easy game to play but i think the good times weigh out the heart ache and saddness
    its just part of been human


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭azezil


    lol you're basing your definition of love on Hedvig... oh deary me :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 917 ✭✭✭carbonkid


    Originally posted by Doodee
    err, that isn't love. thats dependance. which is a scary thing. Of course if you loved someone enough you would miss them when they are gone, but when it becomes a situation that you cant be without them then you are depending on them.

    i do also understand what you mean by indendance...im not sayin you need to be running out looking for love so you dont die sad and alone but just to be open to it
    azezil's point was youll be happy if you just shut yourself off to love so you dont get hurt after


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 917 ✭✭✭carbonkid


    Originally posted by azezil
    lol you're basing your definition of love on Hedvig... oh deary me :)

    yeah so......works for me:p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭azezil


    But my point is you can have all good times if you just avoid love, it always ends in tears... unless u kill yourselfs when you've reached a state of pure happiness.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,025 ✭✭✭yellum


    Originally posted by Doodee
    err, that isn't love. thats dependance. which is a scary thing.

    But don't you depend on someone when you are in love with them and likewise they depend on you ? Does love make you less independent or more or do you stay the same ?

    As you get to know someone and fall for them and they for you, your relationhip would almost become symbiotic in some aspects. When you know what they're thinking and can complete each others sentences and just by a slight nod of the head in the middle of a group of friends you know some complicated message, there is some dependance.

    This person is making you happier than you ever were, its because of them is it not ? So therefore you do depend on them, not totally but in some ways,


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,025 ✭✭✭yellum


    Originally posted by azezil
    But my point is you can have all good times if you just avoid love, it always ends in tears... unless u kill yourselfs when you've reached a state of pure happiness.

    Someones been reading the Vulcan guide to surpressing emotions again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 917 ✭✭✭carbonkid


    Originally posted by azezil
    But my point is you can have all good times if you just avoid love, it always ends in tears... unless u kill yourselfs when you've reached a state of pure happiness.

    it just seems a bit pointless...but everyone is different

    you just got to make sure both parties are into it or less someone will get hurt anyway....of course thats takin it that you care how the other person feels


  • Posts: 810 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Originally posted by The Corinthian
    While utility_ could well be accused of being an embittered cynic, there are many hapless romantics in this thread that are markedly more clueless than he can be accused of being. For some that love exists seems to be so important to them that any attempt to debunk its existence is met with derision.

    Calling a spade a spade, love is most likely a combination of familiarity, obsession and hormones; an evolutionary illusion designed to help propagate the species and briefly make us happy. A little white lie, if you will.

    And why not? After all, if it makes people happy to believe that it exists - especially those who hope to find it some day - does it really matter if it does exist or not?


    Whoa what this I hear? The sound of an open mind me thinks.

    At least 1 out of about 20 isnt too bad.


    Think about this - Western society tells you that the woman you should fall in love with should be a slender beautiful woman. While if you were in other societies, then chances are that you may go for the woman with the widest hips, or a fat woman, or a woman with the longest neck, or the woman who can but the biggest friggen disc in her lip etc etc...
    What does this tell you? THINK about it for a second.


    And azezil I think you have it toally wrong also. Avoiding love because you can get hurt? ITS YOU who creates the love and the hurt and the emotion etc in your mind. Nobody else.

    You don't need love to be happy. Maybe you are a totally unstable person who doesn't believe that you can be happy with yourself, but that's not because you can't "find love".

    I say again - While I'm out living life and meeting people and getting women and you are all wallowing in the fact that you just cant seem to find real love, we'll see who's happier.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165,998 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Originally posted by utility_

    You don't need love to be happy. Maybe you are a totally unstable person who doesn't believe that you can be happy with yourself, but that's not because you can't "find love".


    you have convinced me utility, and more so, whats this happiness you speak of, its nothing but an illusion forced upon us to make us spend money, im happy cause i got a new car etc,

    love and happiness are both emotions, u can't say one is real and one is bull


  • Posts: 810 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    A man has 3 emotions. Happy, horny, and pissed off.

    If he's not one then he's the other.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165,998 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    like i'm pissed off after reading that reply, tis 9:30 sunshine, past your bedtime, you've got school in the morning u no, i've packed some sandwiches 4 ur lunch


  • Posts: 810 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Originally posted by bananayoghurt
    like i'm pissed off after reading that reply, tis 9:30 sunshine, past your bedtime, you've got school in the morning u no, i've packed some sandwiches 4 ur lunch

    Why is it that you REFUSE to answer any of my posts but rather just blast them by claiming that I'm either "cynical", or just an inexperienced young person? Are you afraid of what you might conclude if you actually read my posts and attempt to understand the point that I'm trying to convey?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165,998 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Originally posted by utility_
    Why is it that you REFUSE to answer any of my posts but rather just blast them by claiming that I'm either "cynical", or just an inexperienced young person? Are you afraid of what you might conclude if you actually read my posts and attempt to understand the point that I'm trying to convey?


    you've only made two points in all of your posts ,

    1. you think love is bull, just lust basically

    2. Hot bítches don't go out looking for "love" - they go out for a good time


    to answer point 1, people die all the time for the people they love, how does this equate to wanting a shag

    point 2 doesn't deserve a response


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,875 ✭✭✭Seraphina


    see thats the problem.
    everyone has a different definition for love

    so how do you know if you're actually in it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 222 ✭✭The Second


    so how do you know if you're actually in it?


    ... you don't ... you get over yourself .. stop acting like you are on Ricki Lake ... and enjoy feelings as they come to you with out over analysing and labeling everything! ... and maybe someday...when you are older and wiser and can look back with a clear overseeing memory ... you will think... I remember when I was in Love.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,730 ✭✭✭✭simu


    Calling a spade a spade, love is most likely a combination of familiarity, obsession and hormones; an evolutionary illusion designed to help propagate the species and briefly make us happy. A little white lie, if you will.

    This is true but all human experiences probably boil down to something similar and it's a nice thing to experience all the same.

    No, it dosen't last forever - I hate when ppl say this - given that no human is immortal how could it?!

    As for someone who is in love being a victim of the multi-million dollar love industry: Unless this manifests itself as some sort of burning desire to purchase Celine Dion records and other mushy cr*p, I find that when you are in love, you tend to spend less on unnecessary consumer goods as you are content simply to hang around with the person you are in love with!

    That being said, i am very sceptical of those who claim to find and then "lose" love on a fortnightly basis - this *is* lust IMO but that does not mean that true feelings of love do not exist.

    As for men "having" to fall in love with beautiful women, the point about love is that you find an individual attractive and fascinating by virtue of all their qualities - personality, looks (you would find them attractive regardless of whether others did), intelligence etc.

    Yes, opinions on love are often heavily based on a person's own situaton - i remember, at the start of this year, being convinced that everyone should just have sex with anonymous strangers as it would avoid a lot of hassle (assuming ppl had regular sTD checks etc) and that ppl should use social structures based more on logic than on emotions when deciding to reproduce.

    Twas quite a cynical view based on my experiences up to that time. In recent months, I met a guy and , to my own surprise as much as anybody's, appear to be falling in love with him. It's a slow process of getting to know someone etc and feeling deep affection towards them and i don't even know if i would start making open declarations of love yet but it has made me a lot less cynical about the whole thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,875 ✭✭✭Seraphina


    Originally posted by The Second
    ... you don't ... you get over yourself .. stop acting like you are on Ricki Lake ... and enjoy feelings as they come to you with out over analysing and labeling everything! ... and maybe someday...when you are older and wiser and can look back with a clear overseeing memory ... you will think... I remember when I was in Love.

    that WAS kinda my point


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭azezil


    Everything I posted prior to this was pure tripe, i was trolling :P

    So anyway, i had a sit down this morning, though about someone i care deeply for and came up with this:

    Love – when know the worst thing about a person and its ok, after that nothing else matters, you are free to share yourselves completely, you have nothing to hide.

    To be with someone you can’t imagine ever being without, not because of a dependence on that person but because u can’t imagine ever being with anyone else.

    You think of them when they are gone, not out of paranoia, but as a source of comfort, for when you think of them you see their image, remember a moment when you knew they were the one. When this person walks into a room your eyes light up a smile creeps onto your face, you feel joy building within you.
    Someone you can trust implicitly, you don’t have to know where they are or what they’re doing all of the time for if you love them and you know they love you, you know there can be no other.

    You can spend an eternity in each other’s arms, together forever forgetting all else.
    Someone you would give your life for without hesitation, someone you could never stand to see hurt.

    Their slightest touch or a look can have more meaning than a thousand words, words can be iterated by anyone but when one’s in love words are not need, you just know.

    There’s nothing you wouldn’t do for a loved one.
    Life can seem brighter, your outlook on the world changes, it’s as if nothing can phase you, everyday is a sunny one.
    No matter what your circumstances you know you will prevail as long as you are together. The world can seem a perfect place when you are together.

    If you truly love someone you know when to let go. For example if your feelings are not returned you may get sad but in the long term you still wish only the best for the person, you cannot stop loving someone, not if you truly loved them, love is eternal.

    Loosing a loved one is like loosing a part of yourself, a void that can never be filled. You may not dwell on it but you will always feel their absence but their memory is enough to give you comfort even in your darkest hour.

    ***Hugz n kisses*** – azezil :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,025 ✭✭✭yellum


    Woo. I knew it. The Tin Man does have a heart !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭azezil


    shhhh don't tell anyone ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 222 ✭✭The Second


    that WAS kinda my point

    mm.. yes.. I see... in which .. I agree!:D

    I think love may be like Marmite...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    Mushy and yeasty?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 986 ✭✭✭wild_eyed


    is this an example of love?

    Woman gets violently sick everywere due to bug infection. Man cleans up the vomit and then gets into bed with the Sick Woman, kisses her passionately. during the kiss, the Woman once again gets sick, but he doesnt mind, he simply holds her hand and swallows the carrot chunks and blime. and says i love you woman.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 222 ✭✭The Second


    Mushy and yeasty?

    no... but I see where you are coming from!... I mean't ...

    Love is for some people ... and others it isn't .. its a yes or no thing... you do .. or you don't .. there is no half believing in it.

    I personally don't believe in it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 222 ✭✭The Second


    he simply holds her hand and swallows the carrot chunks and blime. and says i love you woman.

    is she dying? ... or will she get over this bug in a week?

    if she is dying .. then its a typical film climax .. the ultimage proof of love... as beautiful as kissing a corpse...

    if she gets over it .. then no.. just gross ..


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