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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,953 ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    More information to be found here, but it's in German. https://www.tagesschau.de/investigativ/nord-stream-explosion-101.html You can run it through google translate but I'll quickly translate some of the most relevant paragraphs here

    They've identified the boat that was allegedly used, a yacht belonging to a firm in Poland that is owned by 2 Ukrainians. A team of 6 people, 5 men and 1 woman. A captain, 2 divers, 2 diving assistants and a doctor.

    The divers placed explosives on the pipeline. All used fake passports. The yacht was returned uncleaned, and the investigators found traces of explosives inside.

    A few different european intelligence agencies had already tipped off the Germans last autumn that a Ukrainian group was responsible. A false flag operation has not been ruled out, but there is no information pointing towards one so far either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,456 ✭✭✭✭astrofool




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Wasn't expecting that,but a change of leadership could see old wounds open (south Ossetia) and more problems for the Russians



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,057 ✭✭✭dmcdona




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,062 ✭✭✭✭briany


    @dmcdona

    If Bakhmut is full of Wagner soldiers, who are apparently the "cream of the crop", then I'd've thought a 1:5 ratio is pretty incredible.

    Of course this assumes the Ukraine forces are "average" (and not elites) and most/all of the Wagner conscripts from prison were the first to be minced...

    Perhaps this ratio is the reason Ukraine continues to hold and not retreat (strategic or otherwise)?

    If I knew I could be part of a group of 200 that would waste 1000 Wagners, I think that would be a done deal for me, for the sake of my country (Unfortunately I didn't inherit my Dad's inate ability to be a good soldier so yes, I'd defo be one of the 200 and not a survivor).

    Well, I had been under the impression that Wagner's tactic in all of this has been to launch squad upon squad of fresh recruits at the territory they wished to capture, and slowly gain ground through brutal attrition. The actual Wagner 'elite' soldiers are at least a line behind this, giving orders, prodding guns into the backs of their grunts and/or manning the guns which are supposed to give their grunts covering fire, and those soldiers only advance when they feel it is safe to do so.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,057 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    Ah, yes. That makes perfect sense - and genuine thanks for the explanation.

    My dad is looking down and tutting - but in a nice way, probably... or in a way an RSM tuts... (LOL)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,723 ✭✭✭storker




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,205 ✭✭✭Yeah_Right


    Excuse me but it was a kiwi, Ernest Rutherford, who split the atom.

    And yes, going by Russia's actions in Ukraine, they are scum and knuckle draggers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 575 ✭✭✭Bitcoin


    Agree with most of this, other than the point that there are any substantial number of "elite" orcs.

    Anyone who knew what they were doing in this unit was killed long ago. Other wise they wouldn't be attempting constant human wave attacks every day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭maebee


    You wasted your time pointing out what the Brits, Americans, Babylonians etc did. You should have cut out all of that and gone straight to "Russia is Great".

    We all know, the whole world knows, that Russia is beyond scum, for what it is doing to a sovereign nation today and for the past year.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Romania comes the latest customer for American Abrams tanks , seems to be an initial order for a battalion worth of tanks (14) for now ,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,427 ✭✭✭Wolf359f




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 575 ✭✭✭Bitcoin


    Why these clowns persist with the same drivel is beyond me. No one gives a sh1t about defending orcs with what they're doing in Ukraine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 575 ✭✭✭Bitcoin


    Kadyrov been keeping his head very low to the ground over the last few months. This the reason why?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,197 ✭✭✭vixdname


    It wasnt the Danes , Germans and Dutch that "Split the atom".

    It was a Scientist from Abbeyside in Dungarvan Co. Waterford called Ernest Walton, along with a British scientist called John Cockcroft.

    Ernest Walton - Wikipedia



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,033 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Yes, all of the above, and then came Putin. Who is singlehandedly winding Russia backwards, on all levels.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    From that tweet they didn't steal anything from the Italians to build the ladas they bought the rights to the designs



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 275 ✭✭Seanmadradubh


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,692 ✭✭✭Rawr


    Might be difficult to do when so well practiced (or potentially salaried to do it down at Orwell Rd.) :P

    Nearly filled out my Bingo card on this one. Can someone ring Orwell and get us a new one? To their credit there’s a lot more life to the threat trolling this time and it’s interesting to see how triggering they are about the washing machine rumor :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,825 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    Someone has been working extra overtime



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    Whatever about chips in washing machines, the big story is the theft of toilets. At the rate they were being stolen, it’s As of February 2022 was the first time that Russians ever saw toilets, and discovered that they can be used indoors, rather than in their back yard. When they master copying them (it won’t be any time soon because they are not used to high quality manufacturing) it should move Russian hygiene to the early 1900’s. I wonder how long it would then take to master hand washing….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,816 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    But the chips aren't consumer and that's the point. It's not like someone could walk out with a load of Arduino chips or some raspberry pi's. They are "specialised" in that they're built by foundries for industry. A washing machine will have chips for everything from touch screens to wifi, fault detection and other stuff. You might be able to repurpose an consumer chip to do some but it will take a lot of coding to rewrite everything for different silicon. You have to make sure it works with all the other components. It has to be able to withstand the physical strains of use (washing machines for example will have a lot of vibrations). And even if you're successful, most retail places don't carry huge amounts of them. It's a niche hobbyist market.

    There was even a point near the end of the pandemic where western car makers were scavenging appliances for chips. If it was as simple as just popping into a shop or ordering them from a hobbyist shop, then they would have done it. This way they get the same or very similar chip that they're already using. And they can pop it in. And it will work with everything else that's in the car.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,456 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    Isn't the point of the chips that russia has no modern fabrication capacity, thus has to grab generic chips from wherever it can? Also that what it grabs from consumer goods won't be military grade and more likely to malfunction, which is a very bad thing when they are controlling bombs.

    Yes, they could fall back to 50s and 60s tech, but that's a lot of retooling and much more custom production with less capabilities than modern weapons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,692 ✭✭✭Rawr


    There is this, and it's a far wider problem for them than just stripping over devices for their boards. Russian tech (especially military tech) produced since the end of the Cold War had access to Western components and had been designed to use them. Now that suppily is either gone, or very tightly restricted to the point of making supplies a logisitical challenge...and this in a state where logistics does not appear to be their strong suit.

    They have to settle for whatever the Chinese will throw at them, and China is going to probably just give them what they normally produce for their domestic market. Quality there, as I've mentioned before, is piss poor. Russia is an ideal captive market for them now, and they know well they can get away with sending any crap they want.

    Russia really need to produce their own micro-technologies, but with their brightest either escaped the country or rotting as corpses in the fields around Bakmut, I don't see that happening soon or frankly at all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,369 ✭✭✭Field east


    Am surprised with you being English. Do you not follow the news! The only squirrels inthe UK are from the wild and the squirrel catchers are gone on strike because they are not getting paid enough. It was in the news but the importance of it probably has got lost/smothered amongst the news on all the other strikes. It’s hard to keep up!!!!!!!!!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 510 ✭✭✭AerLingus747


    I'm not English... French are on strike more than the UK at the moment, just for contrast.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 510 ✭✭✭AerLingus747


    I think end game is Russian/Chinese partnership after taking Taiwan .... China just aren't ready from a military perspective just yet to take that step...

    Although I'd say there's a lot of knock of western chips being sent in via China... wouldn't surprise me if they have the same branding to disguise that China are the supplier...

    Russia just lacks everything for a strong manufacturing element... The EU and US are only ramping up arms manufacturing lines at the moment, it's not a case of Russia being superior, they have just had long time up and running.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 575 ✭✭✭Bitcoin


    After the orc propaganda assault of Bakhmut falling, it's still in the hands of Ukraine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 575 ✭✭✭Bitcoin




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,692 ✭✭✭Rawr


    I think Taiwan was on the cards soon for China if Russia had actually succeeded in taking Kyiv in that first week. But since they have failed, and more importantly since Ukraine has been able to fight back as a NATO-armed proxy, I feel the plan to take Taiwan may have been binned for now.

    Ukraine has sort of underlined that NATO troops don't nessisarily need to be present to hold back Soviet-derived forces. The PLA are certainly motivated, and well armed, but a lot of that is just updated versions of cloned Soviet tech. Tactical culture within the PLA's command is also not really tested in actual battle. It could be that they are little better in a fight than the Russians have been and previous wars have shown the PLA to also prefer human wave attacks. An assault like that against beaches defended with NATO-grade tech & tactics are the ingredients for a potental PLA bloodbath.

    The US has been more open than usual about their support for Taiwan lately, so I suspect that they'll remained armed to the point of not needing US troops to defend themselves.

    As for Russia; I feel that their capacity overall is being worn down by this war. Not just supplies, but also manpower to keep things going and to maintain things. You see a lot of fires reported at factories across Russia, but I feel that these aren't sabotage, that they are result of abandoned maintainence and the elimination of a safety culture that was barely there to begin with. I get the impression of a nation that is in a mad scramble to throw anything and everything it has at Ukraine (and damn the consquences) in the hope that they'll win before it's too late and they have nothing left to back up that fight.

    The Russian Federation is not the Soviet Union, and unless they get their act together soon (or *yesterday*) you can probably lob off "Federation" from that name in the future.



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