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Limerick improvement projects

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 63 ✭✭keane10



    This thread has been great for confirming what I assumed about Limerick Council.

    I did an interview with them about 2 years ago for an admin position I was well-qualified for. The interview was a shambles, the panel (none of whom worked for the Council, all external people) included a retired Councillor or Mayor, well into his 70s, who asked me a load of irrelevant questions (about Limerick City and nothing about the skills needed to do the job) and got my name wrong numerous times. He also seemed to negatively react to my experience working in the UK and only wanted to know about my experience in Ireland. The panel couldn't answer any of my questions about what it was like working for them or anything about the team the vacant position was on.

    I dodged a bullet for sure 🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,894 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    It's a long trek if you are going from Arthurs Quay to Dooradoyle via the 304 at KBC... Personally I'd just hop on the 301 from Patrick Street to avoid such a situation



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,060 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    I agree so not a long walk at all. The old people and the buggy laden have to do the same distance to get the 302/3/6 from Arthur's Quay as the KBC people do and the place doesn't erupt in anarchy.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 13,651 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    ABP have again approved the Punches Cross development.

    I assume that she no longer has any recourse to go back to the courts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,449 ✭✭✭pigtown


    God that was very quick considering the recent delays in ABP



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,136 ✭✭✭Vanquished


    I suppose nothing had fundamentally changed since the application was last considered and approved. The process was basically reset to the stage where all submissions had to be sent to the relevant Local Authority for inclusion in the Chief Executives report. The site re-inspection was only conducted in late January and interestingly the same Inspector was allocated to the case as had compiled the previous report.

    You'd think this is the end of it now but I wouldn't put anything past that mysterious entity that has been hell bent on halting this project since 2019.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,894 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    That "mysterious entity" is Environmental Trust Ireland. As the name suggests their remit is to protect the environment.

    Good people, usually



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,894 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Good luck to anybody in the traffic driving up the Rosbrien road from Childers Road when this gets built

    The successful rejection of the planning by judicial review was based on a technicality. If that technicality no longer exists then there is no reason to go back to the courts on that basis. But if a new technicality is found, or the old one wasn't fixed appropriately that can be used for another judicial review. Also according to the files it's a strategic housing development, probably got priority from ABP



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 703 ✭✭✭Cetyl Palmitate


    Development seems to have a total of 76 parking spaces. Will that make a significant difference to existing traffic in the area?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,060 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    It's also for students iirc. So any Mary I students will walk and there is a bus to UL.

    Making them live out of town increases the chances they drive and instead of putting an extra car on the road from Punches to destination you put a car on the road all the way from Mungret which means even more disruption.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,942 ✭✭✭lisasimpson


    Will be a lot of mary i students there so shouldnt have impacts on traffic esp at rush hours. Only issue id have with the project is the cinema room in it. Purpose student accomodation doest need these fancy extra esp with cinema and other leisure facilities close by. Better use the space for more beds.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,894 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Is there evidence to suggest students don't drive from their hometowns to their mid-week accommodation? Thinking of the villages in UL most of their car parks are fairly full mid week with some parking on footpaths



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,894 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Existing traffic is choked, 76 spaces would probably not help anyway



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,060 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Who said they didn't.

    Of course everyone except those like yourself who are trying to be disingenuous knows that thay are not driving from home to weekday hame every day Monday to Friday.

    Again what is your answer to the housing crisis ? More suburbs ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,894 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    I'm old enough to remember housing going up everywhere during the Celtic Tiger era. BS statements like students don't add to the traffic crisis. Environmental groups being ignored. Shortcuts taken, corners cut and planning authorities signing off on everything they possibly could.

    Are you old enough to remember what happened in 2008?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,060 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Disingenuous again.

    Nobody is claiming students don't add to traffic.

    The claim is that having them in Punches Cross close to college and the best bus route in Limerick adds a lot less than in more suburbs.

    If you think corners are being cut here then by all means object to it.

    Again what is your solution to the housing and "traffic crisis" ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,894 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    So I take it you don't remember 2008? Makes sense with a lot of what you're saying! Unfortunately it seems you will see it repeat in a few years time the way things are going

    Again what is your solution to the housing and "traffic crisis" ?

    Build more houses and run more efficient public transport. But houses shouldn't be built willy-nilly... History should have taught us that



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,060 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    I was born in 1985 like my name suggests. I remember what happened very well. History should have thought us that we need to build up not out.

    The better transport is happening. The plan was launched last week. Has to get through the NIMBYs yet though.

    Build the houses where ?

    Where is this place that they won't be "willy-nilly" ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 703 ✭✭✭Cetyl Palmitate


    Overall, being so close to Mary I, it seems like a sensible place for student accomodation. Students living so close to their college are probably not going to be driving there everyday at peak time anyway.

    The site has been an eyesore for close to 20 years at this stage. I'm glad to see it being used for something useful.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,060 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    The biggest waste in that area are those new houses behind punches and Punches itself. Could have easily stuck a few floors of apartments over the hotel.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,942 ✭✭✭lisasimpson


    Of course you will have some students driving up who will be staying there midweek. Special those who need to go back home for training in their particular field of sport. You find many of them often bring friends with them so its not as if every individual living there will have cars. Still plenty of students from my home town getting busses back to college every sunday night well those lucky enough to get student accomodation. Many students are driving to 3rd level every day due to the lack of accomodation and affordability



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,894 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Did you see a different transport solution to me? All I saw was the same bus routes on the same streets with some minor tweaks

    Maybe you're right, and this is a good place for a tower block I don't see it though. I think such a high structure in the middle of low lying ones will destroy the place but I accept I could be proven wrong



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,060 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    It was a 70 % increase in buses many of which go to areas untouched currently.

    Again I ask what is your solution. Where would you build the accomodation ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,375 ✭✭✭source


    There are massive sites near Allendale where there are already apartment blocks and the development wouldn't look as out of place.

    I've said it before on here, the next biggest building is Punches, which is 2 storeys but is also built into a hill so is effectively 1 storey for much of its length. 7 storeys at that site is way out of character for the area.

    Even if they flipped the building and had the 7 storey portion at the rear where the site dips and kept the roof line at 4/5 storeys at punches Cross would have been slightly more in keeping with the area and still given the same amount of accommodation.

    But I'll no doubt again be dismissed as a Nimby by some on here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,623 ✭✭✭sioda


    Your dead on the money here about flipping the site so easily makeing it fit in better on that site.


    Added to that it's just a boring bland plan common of the architect firm that designed it.


    Alandale area and the old race course are primed for a large development. Having lived in Alandale for a few years have to say it could easily take more accomodation and has multiple access points to town and out of the city



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,894 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Can't really accuse you of nimbyism unless that's actually in your local area. You are correct in what you say other than that



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,894 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    You obviously read a different plan to me so

    As has been previously pointed out Allendale is hugely underdeveloped at the moment, there's easier access to the dock road for the added traffic and it's physically closer to Mary i than punches cross



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,375 ✭✭✭source


    It certainly is my local area, while not my back yard I'm about 400m from this new development, so have an interest in having the current eyesore removed, but would rather its done right.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,894 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    I get that, you look nearby down the road from you they have a 3 storey block going in opposite lidl (goughs place) that isn't any higher than the surrounding houses... I think developments like that are the way forward for keeping character of an area



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,060 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985




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