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So "X" - nothing to see here. Elon's in control - Part XXX

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,367 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Ah, I thought there was more to it than Musk liking something he doesn't understand



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Having racked up its own eye-watering levels of money burned - in this case, because of Zuckerberg quixotic obsession with VR - Facebook is going to have its own Verification system. 🙄

    Given its shrinking and ageing demographics, and creeping obsolescence I can't see this going any better for FB than it might for Twitter. If anything it may only hasten Facebook's decline at this stage - at least Twitter remains relevant.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 893 ✭✭✭timetogo1


    When I went through the posts of people I followed that were blue ticks in Twitter they tended to be people that posted the inane lists in the hope that people sign up to their paid newsletters or bought their products. So, so far for me it's been a handy way to identify people to unfollow.

    I can't see the point in Facebook (I'm in the ageing demographic). I only friend people I actually know and want to get updates from and mainly use FB for some groups. I don't care if the posters to those are verified or not.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,924 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Oh Christ... now I'm going to have to sit my mother down and explain to her repeatedly that she doesn't have to give Facebook money....



  • Posts: 1,338 ✭✭✭ Colten Little Bellboy


    It appears Twitter is down, via the web anyway. Just noticing links to twitter posts are all timing out



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  • Posts: 33,400 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You could have just stopped after “I can't see the point in Facebook”.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,222 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    Elon welcomes any new stormtroopers for the Kulturkampf.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,616 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    So apparently on Tuesday someone switched off their internal slack and their entire Jira instance went down meaning virtually no work was done company wide.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,924 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    The woman who posted photos of herself sleeping at the office to show how hard she would work for Elon Musk and how dedicated she was right when he took over.... has been let go.

    It'd be funny if not for the fact that..... actually.... actually it is pretty funny....



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 511 ✭✭✭Psychedelic Hedgehog


    It's actually a sad indictment of how far someone is willing to debase themselves to earn the approval of a billionaire who is proven to not give a **** about his staff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Sadly, it's more behaviour in modern offices than you'd might think, depending on the industry.

    I actually feel sad for that women, whoever she is. We can't know the personal situation of hers that this was the tactic chosen. Not least, this being the American offices I presume? She was probably saddled with student debt and desperate to keep working.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,457 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    She was 39 and in a managerial position. At one point just after Musk took control, she was getting in trouble with her superiors because she kept going to Musk behind their backs to get his approval and pitch crazy ideas. She was just a brown noser. And She'll find it hard to get another job now that she's shown everyone what kind of employee she is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,665 ✭✭✭Cordell


    If that's true then that's really bad corporate culture. Jira is just a tool, if it goes down you find alternatives, even if that means going back to good old stickies on a whiteboard.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,616 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Yes I agrees Elon has wrecked the culture and work ethos of the company. But if both slack and Jira are down please explain how you might move 1000 people into working cohesively using white boards and sticky notes within a single day? Jira may be a tool but it contains a huge amount of knowledge that might be key to workflows, projects and issue tracking, its not as simple to just switch back to white boards without significant outage planning in place which obviously there was not. Might be he fired the people who used to be responsible for that?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,665 ✭✭✭Cordell


    Yeah, clearly, his fault. I'm sure the same work ethos can be found in Tesla SpaceX and Starlink, that is work stops when issue tracking tool is down.

    I know what Jira is and what it does. It's a tool. Just a tool. Engineering teams are not 1000+, they are small and they have leaders. You can go for a day without Jira, trust me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,616 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Jira is far more than an issue tracking tool. If employees arent motivated to work I wonder who might be responsible?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,665 ✭✭✭Cordell


    Ultimately, he is responsible. It may be the time to lay off everyone and outsource it to India, I'm sure they know over there how to work when Jira is down.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,367 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    If JIRA was down for a day it would make little or no difference for the company I work. We generally know what we should be working on. We don't pick up tasks from day to day. I dont believe that the lack of JIRA meant that no work could be done.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,665 ✭✭✭Cordell


    Yes, it can also generate pretty charts. I know lots of people forgot it's just a tool, and made it became a goal in itself. Like, our company is going for the ditch, our products are crap but look we are burning through sprints stories and tasks like no other!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,616 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Id agree some work could probably be done but I also think some companies are far more reliant on tools and systems like Jira than others and twitter might be one of them. Ex: we've heard multiple stories about how much of the institutional knowledge keepers were either sacked or walked and now many of those left still might heavily rely on the documentation within Jira etc to do their jobs, moreso than those let go might ever have done. However I think its also a case that the morale is likely at rock bottom so people grabbed any excuse and tbh its a pretty easy one to use.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,367 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    I think your last sentence is probably a better reflection of the reality.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,616 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Agree completely.

    If you are just waiting for the axe to fall (he's cut/about to cut more staff apparently) you are going to take any vaguely valid excuse to do nothing , however thin the reason might be.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,390 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    200 Twitter employees reportedly just laid off, and this Tweet from Musk "Hope you have a good Sunday. First day of the rest of your life." One senior product manager found out by discovering he was locked out of his mails.

    Not sure whether it was you or another poster claiming they cared about Twitter staff, apparently much more so than the new CEO



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,665 ✭✭✭Cordell


    Wasn't me. I never claimed that because I really don't :)

    What I care about is the return of professionalism and proper work ethic in the tech industry. Stop the we are a family BS, stop caring about useless perks like spa and vegan buffets, and start doing what made this industry great once - work hard and innovate. Be a feking engineer again, not a Jira driven code monkey.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,475 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Well Elon focusing on his "strong meme game" is as anti-professionalism as can be.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,665 ✭✭✭Cordell


    If that's what he does internally then sure, but he isn't. What we see on his public Twitter is not what his employees see. He didn't build Tesla, SpaceX and Starlink from edgy memes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭archermoo


    He didn't build any of them at all. He bought them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,665 ✭✭✭Cordell


    I wasn't aware that all these 3 were already established successful enterprises before he bought them. I mean, Tesla had no product and no plan before him, but that doesn't mean it wasn't doing great already.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭archermoo


    What do you think, other than money, he added to any of them?



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