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Switching electric/gas providers (see first post for links)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,588 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    mines out next week, will be switching to SSE but it will be a painful increase overall (going from a 40% to a 15% discount, and essentially 300% the rate I signed up for last year). If better discounts start to become available later in the year I'll probably consider paying the €50 break fee if it makes sense.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 619 ✭✭✭sonyvision


    Good timing for you! I'm on eletric Ireland at 14% discount. I would suspect this is the start off bigger discounts before unit rates are reduced in an attempt to get customers to switch. I wouldn't be surprised if other big players followed the game.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 962 ✭✭✭raxy


    Not sure if it's the same for you but I renewed with energia last year. The first bill I got had no discount. I called to complain (at the time they told me the next bill would correct it but it didnt). They told me I'll get 12 months of discount so even though my contract ended this month I'll have the 40% discount for my next bill too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,955 ✭✭✭Cape Clear


    Only a matter of time before the €50 break free gets doubled or trebled or some other clause gets inserted in contracts to make breaking them early unattractive. Wort reading carefully the T&C's some of them are quite vague and not easily found on provider's literature.



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 7,814 Mod ✭✭✭✭delly


    The regulator for energy is asleep at the wheel, of course the break fee can go up unchecked if they want.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,919 ✭✭✭✭con747


    Asleep at the wheel is an understatement I'm afraid.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74 ✭✭delerium1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 953 ✭✭✭doc22


    Energy suppliers would pocket that and have no pressure to drop prices....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74 ✭✭delerium1


    so, would I be right in thinking that cutting down on the use of electricity would have the same effect?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,709 ✭✭✭Del007




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74 ✭✭delerium1


    why?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,157 ✭✭✭daheff


    likewise. ongoing discussion with energia whereby i had an overpayment on my account of ~800 eur at one stage (partly due to the energy credit).

    i asked for the overpayment to be returned. they point blank refused to do so. then they would only do it if i sent them a picture of my meter. I told them that they can take payment without meter readings so they can also make a refund without a meter reading. REsponse was that this was for my own protection!! incase i ended up in a negative account balance. I should contact retentions team to look at my plan...blah blah BS.


    eventually they have refunded me ~400 eur. I'd have left them already only for there aren't any worthwhile deals out there at the moment. as soon as there are...energia can suck it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,680 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    "... they can take payment without meter readings so they can also make a refund without a meter reading..."

    That's good :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,092 ✭✭✭Villa05


    Electric Ireland cutting prices by average 10% for f,,,,,,,,g sme's

    I'm going back to sleep



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭loki7777


    Not for us sadly

    "Electric Ireland will reduce its electricity tariffs for small and medium enterprises in the Republic of Ireland by an average of 10% from next month.

    However, the energy company said it is very difficult to project the trajectory of residential electricity and gas prices but it will continue to keep rates under review."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭Gooser14


    Did you choose to be on "level pay" or was it a requirement of the plan you are on. I seem to recall that the last time I was with Energia it was optional & I didn't opt for it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 962 ✭✭✭raxy


    I'm pretty sure it was a requirement when we signed up. I don't mind being on level pay, it's handy for planning as you don't get surprise large bills. I just don't understand how they can be so bad at calculating the amount.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,462 ✭✭✭ando


    Are any of the suppliers doing deals over the phone these days to keep the customer? Is 15% really the best you can get??



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,402 ✭✭✭Daith


    Got my last bill. Hopefully that'll be the worst of it.


    Am tempted to move a smart plan with a free weekend option but very annoying it can't be moved back to regular meeting plan.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,588 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    I rang Energia and 10% was as much as they would offer so I'm off to SSE. It's about €300 saving over the year for gas and electricity but hopefully the standard rates will start to come back down in the coming months.

    As an aside I looked at the Smart Meter rates (as I have one) and they're still terrible value, only really worth considering if you have an EV.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,709 ✭✭✭Del007


    Electric Ireland's site is down so often, I wouldn't be surprised if it's on purpose



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 472 ✭✭raytaxi


    Got offered 18% discount off bord gais retention team 39.5c per unit including vat if i remember correctly



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,316 ✭✭✭✭Caranica


    I was just on it, it's fine!

    Is that gas? Flogas fixed is a third of that. If it's electricity, I got an EI deal through bonkers.ie last autumn at 26.2c per unit, went up to 37.21c but it's still cheaper than you've been offered



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 472 ✭✭raytaxi


    That's electricity will check EI couldn't find better when I looked, contract up this month currently on 40% discount. No hope of getting anything like that now unfortunately



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,588 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu



    cheapest I can see for EI at the moment is 40.9c; I've just signed up for SSE at 41c but their gas price is cheaper so cheaper overall than splitting the services.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,064 ✭✭✭phunkadelic


    I swapped to SSE airtricity a few days ago to their '15% off standard rates' dual plan.

    Elec Ire called me to to try and retain me. Their offer:

    Electricity: offer 43.2c -> 38.9c

    Gas: offer 14.6c -> 13.01c

    My usage is about average annual usage, electricity 3000kwh, Annual gas is 12000kwh.

    Anyone know if its worth staying, or even haggling them down further? EI reckon their standing charges are about the same. Also, which one is more likely to drop prices in a few months time?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,588 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    I stuck your figures into my spreadsheet and I make it total annual cost with SSE: €3,259; Total with EI: €3,421 (EI's standing charges are higher)

    As to who is more likely to drop prices, who knows - they tend to all follow each other anyway.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,064 ✭✭✭phunkadelic


    Thanks for this. EI seem to be just beating the SSE unit rate and think that is enough for people to stay with them.

    What standing charges do you have for EI? I can see SSE are €240.97 and €152.31

    https://www.sseairtricity.com/assets/Tariffs/ROI/Current/1YR-DF-15-15.pdf



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 357 ✭✭Bored Accountant


    Just looking at chaning/renewing my electricity plan. I was with Bord Gais with 32% discount, which just expired at end of January.

    If I renew online with Bord Gais, I can get 15% discount so (Day:43.77,Night:32.32,Peak:53.29)

    I was looking at Electric Ireland and they have a night boost plan. (Day:43.68, Night:21.55, NightBoost:12.65)

    It states;

    2. Energy kWh unit rates will be charged under the following three time periods:

    Day kWh rate is applicable to usage between 08:00 - 23:00 everyday

    Night kWh rate is applicable to usage between 23:00 - 08:00 everyday (excluding Night Boost times)

    Night Boost kWh rate is applicable to usage between 02:00 - 04:00 everyday


    Is it a mistake on the website, or is there actually no Peak rate on this plan?

    If no peak rate, this will work out nearly 900 euro cheaper than the plan I can switch to on Bord Gais.



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