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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 564 ✭✭✭Bitcoin


    I am also convinced Bakhmut will hold out.

    The orcs are out of tanks. They are out of shells. They are even running low on convicts for use as cannon fodder.

    The videos like the above of desperate orc human wave attacks only show their desperation.

    200k orcs are now dead with a multiple of that wounded. The coming Ukrainian counter offensive with all the new NATO toys will come like a thunderclap and blow the orcs away.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 564 ✭✭✭Bitcoin


    The orcs are so short of vehicles they are pulling stuff from storage from the 50s 🤣

    Human wave attacks and old crap from the 50s. It's all over for them, they are done.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Honestly I don't think it's anything to do with ukraine,I think it's just individuals who see an active thread and decide they need some attention by attempting to wind people up , last nights effort I found quite amusing,I could have ignored but i found the interactions funny, compared to some of the other contributions to the thread yesterday and the day before,

    It's nothing more than attention seeking for whatever reason they feel the need to ,at they were upfront about it,

    compared to others



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,322 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Vids like that also seem to show a serious lack of anti tank kit among the Russian forces. Manic Moran, our resident actual tank and military expert, noted earlier how Russian and Ukrainian tankers seem to have forgotten the maxims of combined tank and troop movements and that was clearly a major screwup on the Russian side early on in this war where we saw encounter after encounter where Russian tanks and armoured vehicles not backed up by infantry were blasted by anti tank weapons.

    What I've noticed more recently is again tanks and armoured vehicles out on their own, only this time it's the Ukrainians doing it. However what's different, at least in the encounters we're seeing is the Russians aren't firing back with anti tank weapons. A video a few days ago had a Ukrainian tank moving about in fields, at one point smack dab in the middle of one, pounding Russian positions for ages(the video was actually speeded up to get it into the twitter time limit). A perfect target, yet we don't see it taking fire from those Russian positions and judging by the actions of the Ukrainian tank crew, either they're just mad/madly brave, or they feel confident enough that incoming anti tank fire is not the threat it was in that area. What also seems to be clear is that Ukrainians still have anti tank weapons.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 564 ✭✭✭Bitcoin




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭vixdname


    Oh but but but we're "neutral", they wont do anything to hurt us !.....would they ????



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    I think it's down to the simple reason is they don't have the anti tank weapons in their inventory is yes they have the kornet Which isn't exactly man portable and easy to menuver in fast moving battles,the doctrine has always been large numbers of tanks and bmps blitzkrieging area in an attempt to over run defenses,but in Ukraine they had their own tanks,bmps and artillery but most importantly 90,000+ modern and highly portable anti tank weapons sent by eu and Nato countries,they have also seem to have lost their artillery advantage,we are definitely seeing more and more lone Ukrainian vehicles very much carrying out kamikaze styles runs into Russian forces especially in and around bakhmut, which suggests that the Ukrainans are either running lite when it comes to tanks and other armour or they are withholding their main tank and ifv for a bigger combined forces counter offensive,

    We've seen in Vuhledar recently Russians loosing 20 -30 tanks in single engagements but we're not seeing Ukrainian tanks being used in the same numbers to counter the Russian tanks,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭vixdname


    Dont worry Gatling my friend, we bought 2 lovely boats recently from New Zealand - They will protect our sea borne assets - but if the sea is too choppy neither are capable of sailing....yeah, I jest you not - we got rid of 2 more sea worthy vessels namely LE Aoife & LE Orla and replaced them with 2 Lake Class vessels...and we paid €26,000,000 for this decrease in capability...great little country

    Naval service capability 'significantly reduced' with purchase of NZ warships (irishexaminer.com)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,048 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Russia doesn't have the numbers to make a significant dent in the frontline using human waves, so it begs the question of what tactics it intends to employ in the longer term to advance in a more rapid fashion. I do not believe that even in the most authoritarian state would it be long-term politically sustainable for large swathes of the population to be essentially frog marched off to war with a greater than 50 percent chance they'll die in the first few weeks of deployment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,240 ✭✭✭Economics101


    I see that yesterdays useless idiots in the Irish Times got an impressive response. The letters add up to a complete and comprehensive rebuttal.




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭Dufflecoat Fanny


    Just watched a video confirming Ukraine has doubled its himars range and is also due delivery of a Boeing made air to surface glide bomb with similar accuracy and range of 74km.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭Dufflecoat Fanny


    Today russian logistics died



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Yes Mariupol was hit again last night or this morning,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭Dufflecoat Fanny


    It's beginning to thaw there now imagine the smell in a few days. Expect disease to run rampant among the Russians on top of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    An interesting radio report from Moscow yesterday on attitudes of ordinary Russian Muscovites to the war. On the one hand, was said they were generally opposed to the invasion/ war but also that the prevailing opinion there now was one of concern for the 'survival of Russia'. That the narrative that this is Russia V NATO has been established in their heads. Even though technically literate citizens can & do use VPNs to access outside media.

    That narrative is clearly screwed up but a dangerous one as it feeds into support for a military economy and conscription etc. I don't know what is being done in the propaganda war front to tackle this in Russia but clearly lives can be saved and this war brought to a quicker conclusion if that narrative can be changed. It is surely the duty of all Russian citizens living outside their state to get this word back and persuade their families, friends and neighbours that this was a disastrous attack on their close neighbours and must be halted asap. To sit in silence and watch on whilst having the capacity to influence is thoroughly disgusting moral cowardice. And feck the long arm of the Russian secret security - they can't monitor everyone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Are you actually surprised,

    They recently a flew one of our new pc12 aircraft 40,000 km to pick up three boxes in Africa including 14 fuel stops(open to correction), the aircraft wasn't designed for such long haul flights and back,but it's fine when we need a few boxes picked up ,not even men or life savings equipment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,063 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Sometimes the Ukrainians even use anti tank weapons in Bakhmut:

    Seems effective, particularly as they seem to steer it right through the door.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,322 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    In the end it doesn't matter IMHO. The back and forth minutiae of the lines moving in either direction is in many ways a truly horrific sideshow taking attention away from the wider realities. Numero uno of which is Russia has lost this war and it lost it this time last year. Even if their "feint" hadn't happened, they had taken the capital and Zelensky ended up needing that "ride" rather than ammunition. That's when their real battle would have started.

    Look at America and her allies in Iraq. They won that war comprehensibly. They achieved their aims of taking Baghdad, removing and executing Saddam, secured the oilfields and took over the country, and did so in a matter of months with truly remarkably light casualities on their side. Game Over. Only it wasn't. They lost more people in the occupation than in the war and in the end they left, leaving behind an Iraq that is massively unstable with fighting between groups still going on and a state that is arguably far more unstable and fecked than it was under Saddam. Look at America and Soviet Russia in Afghanistan. Both stormed in, took the capital with relative ease, got a regime change and Americans and Russians kept dying, never mind the countless locals. And in the end both America and Russia had to leave. America lost trillions and thousands of lives, Russia lost even more lives and the Soviet Union itself. And on both cases the invading forces were overwhelming with tanks and troops and full control of the air.

    Taking a country is the "easy" part, occupying a country? That's by far the most difficult. Russia have failed at the first hurdle, they have zero hope of achieving the bigger one. The thing is nobody has been able to jump that hurdle, or at least not for very long. You can win all the battles you like, but you quite simply can't win a war against people who don't want you there. Nobody ever has in wars of the modern era. You'd think Russians of all people would understand this, but nope. The imperialism, hubris and historical amnesia gets in the way. Just like it always does with every such invasion, no matter how just the cause seems to be for the invaders.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41 DrivingMrDaisy


    "Feck the long arm of the Russian secret security services", so easy to say this from a distance sat at home in Ireland sipping a Latte. They don't have to monitor everyone they just have to make an example of a few as they have being doing.

    History is riddled with populations that stood back and done nothing as heinous acts are carried out before their eyes out of fear, this is just the latest and it won't be the last. If Ukraine and the west is waiting for Putin or his cronies to be overthrown by the Russian population then they are going to be sorely disappointed.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    100%

    I also think the guy is pulling the skeleton off himself thinking people are reading his pornographic scutter.

    Report, ignore. He’s not even a troll, he’s a perv.



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    When you realise, though well intentioned, you are part of the problem, by encouraging them… 💡



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭vixdname


    We all need a bit of CR and LF sometimes.......



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,043 ✭✭✭Polar101


    There's an option in the profile to turn off other users' signatures, it's quite handy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,009 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,048 ✭✭✭✭briany


    There is a way of occupying territory even if its people don't want you there, but it involves slaughtering every man, woman and child until the occupied are too weak/depleted to really fight back. Maybe only adopting out the really young children if you're feeling 'merciful'.

    Seeing how little respect Russia has for the life of its own citizens, it's not much of a leap in my imagination that Russia would suppress Ukraine to whatever extent was deemed necessary in order to control it, international opinion be damned, and this is exactly why every effort ought to be made to help Ukraine push Russian forces out right now. The hand wringing over how terrible the war is (and it is terrible) misses the point that it would look like a sideshow in comparison to the genocide Russia would enact if it were ever to establish full control of Ukraine and still meet partisan resistance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,716 ✭✭✭storker


    "The letter from assorted TDs and Senators, replete with irrelevancies, truisms and non sequiturs, only has value in that it highlights the dangers inherent in having a letter written by a committee"

    Ouch. 😁

    "It might help to consider a mental experiment: suppose Russia occupied all of Connacht, deporting Irish citizens to Russia and committing several war crimes in the process, how much should Ireland concede in order to achieve a peaceful resolution?"

    Quite.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,322 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    And they still wouldn't, couldn't win. Russia is already facing partisan resistance in the territories they "control" and these are territories they claim/think are far more supportive of Russia. Again Russians of all people should know this. The actual nazis killed tens of millions of Russians, men, women and children in one of the single most brutal occupations in world history. The same nazis were equally brutal in Poland, wiping out whole towns and villages. And remember that was a time when news of such barbarity wasn't so easy to report and spread and outside support was hard to get into a country. And they still didn't win.

    And Russia is very much aware of international opinion. Oh not the "decadent West", but those they're trying to get and keep on side in this Cold War 2. The largest of which are even more concerned about international opinion including the decadent West who they rely on for their economies. No amount of cheap oil will cover up the smell of actual genocide and Russia knows it.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,063 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Almost to the hour Biden was walking around Kyiv, the US press announced that the US was supplying Ukraine with the JDAM-ERs, which have an unclassified range of around 75km. That same evening, after Biden had left for Poland, Mariupol, which is beyond HIMARS range, had some large explosions, one being an ammunition dump near the airport.

    Of course everyone besotted with the GLSDB, like Pfarr, or whatever his name is, immediately started crowing that a miracle had happened and that these, with their 150km range, had been delivered 8 months early.

    I'm not a huge fan of coincidences so I think it more likely that it's the JDAM-ER that's been delivered and used. The good news is that these only cost $22,000 instead of the $40,000 the GLSDB costs, so more bang for someone else’s buck and a greater likelihood they will give you more of them.

    The bad news is that to get their maximum range, you have to drop them from a plane at nearly 15km altitude, potentially exposing it to AA missiles.

    Another reason I think it's the JDAM-ERs and not GLSDBs that Ukraine has received is that it would seem a bit of a waste to expend 150km range munitions on targets 80km away and less.

    No doubt someone will now point out that Mariupol at 80km is slightly beyond the 72-75km range usually quoted for JDAM, but one report I have seen states that if it's released at around 15km at mach 1+, the range can be doubled, though it didn't state whether that was the basis of the 72km range or whether that was the range doubled. An Australian military analyst claims the range can be extended to 80km by having the plane launching it fly very fast and then go into a steep climb and release it near the top of the climb in a ballistic trajectory where it must exceed the roughly 15km max altitude of the planes operational ceiling to get that extra range. As the wingset ER bit of these is an Australian invention and possibly manufactured there, it seems possible he might have some insight into the RAAF testing of these and their development of creative modes of use.

    I would prefer that the GLSDBs have been delivered 9 months earlier than the US media stated, as that is far more useful and flexible without endangering aircraft.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,267 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec



    It's been pretty much standard procedure for the US to win wars from the Gulf War onwards, and not win the peace.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭pcardin


    never mind...replyed to yet another Ring Runner only to realise they dont live past 14 or so posts.



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