Unhappy with owning an EV in Ireland

Pop into the Circle K in Dublin Airport around lunchtime, lots of taxis looking for petrol and lunch, it can get very tense

I think you're making more of a thing about the charging than it is. I've had exactly one incident where I was waiting a long time to charge, and that was in 2019. Never had an issue since

Maybe I'm particularly lucky, but I just don't think the whole idea of making a 20 mins stop for charging is so bad

If someone couldn't get a home charger then it would definitely be a bit head wrecking to live off public charging. But it's fine for occasional use

It's absolutely fine to be a fan of EVs, and they absolutely have a place in the transport options people use.

But there is no need to make draft statements to try and convince yourself or others about them.

Yeah but if you're going to Croke park the quickest way is generally from the north, and you might be happy to detour a bit on the way home to avoid traffic

This is of course assuming that you can't get a charger out of the dozen or more HPCs that are scattered up and down the motorway from Dublin to Cork

It's almost like you have taken one reported story of cars queueing to refuel and completely ignored another one, as usual people completely over estimate how often they would be charging at public chargers and use an extreme fictional example to prove the point.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/58680836.amp

No it's experiences of people I know tbh.

Like somebody who drove to their holidays in Clare and having issues getting charging.

They take the ICE now.

Running the gauntlet of public chargers is a hassle and best avoided.

Take the ICE instead, if it's an option.

I have seen people wait at chargers, and I have read here many times about chargers not delivering power, not activating, and whole sites down, I have read one person's wife getting out her granny charger and charging her car through the shop window.

The last hub I remember the numbers for was a tesla hub costing 1.5 million at a hotel which was blocked by a camper van the next week, as far as I can see the network will always be playing catch up, its guessing where demand will be, why invest in more than 1 or 2 chargers when the forecourt you own 50 km down the road might be busier.

I drive a phev because of the problems others had, for me the few 100 euros I would spend on fuel makes it a safe bet,

I remember you getting upset at an outlander charging at a service station, I never experience any bad situations with my phev's, bad anecdote is one way of putting it another way is taking a chance, how long before the next roll of the dice, more you play the better chance you have.

I've already sent you the survey of actual EV drivers experiences. Read it.

I'll never use a public charger. Take the ICE on the long journey.

If the charger is available, if I am there, I would use it, never actually stop to charge to continue my journey, only now with electricity prices so high, its breaking even, last I read on the apple green saviors was that they were delivering 22 kWh and charging more for the privilege.

Im going to bed good night.

The problem is there could be a big increase in the number of BEV's on our roads again next year leapfrogging any progress in extra charging capacity.

The real problems will start when BEV's are forced on people who dont have private charging. Will people start taking electric scooters out of the boot to get home from wherever they manage to charge their car?

Maybe in a faraway land there will be chargers as fast as petrol pumps but that remains to be seen and guess what, juice will not be cheap.

I think grid connection is an issue alright, and thus it drives me a bit mad when AC is under utilised. To take the all ireland example, it would be more effective if the city centre car parks had row upon row of 7kw AC. Simplistically, 55 x 7kw take as much grid as 2 x 200kw. Then people would be free to stop or not stop on drive home.

Best example of this is the airport red car park, by definition people will be parked there for hours, yet they put 2 x 50kw at the gate. Why not put 33 x 3kw even, would mean a daytripper would get about 12 hours charge (36kw), and anyone staying longer more again. But 33 cars ready to go is better IMHO. Or even hybrid solution 1 x 50 and 17 x 3 etc. I'm not sure how the numbers stack up in terms of cars being plugged in for weeks on end in that car park, but hybrid AC/DC would mitigate that somewhat.

Relying on public charging can be problematic, get over it.

It's not just anecdotes, I provided a survey of actual EV drivers.

Answer me this, what % of EV drivers in Ireland rely on the public network with no charging either at home or at work?