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General Premier League Thread 2022-23 - mod note in OP 12/03/23

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  • Posts: 45,738 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    1 point from 9 when the pressure cranks up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,643 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    United won the Premier League 7 times in 9 seasons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,675 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Ah yeah. 11 in a row in the league alright. Dominant either way 👍



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,166 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    Liverpool have kept it interesting over the last few years but you're right, without Klopp we'd be looking at exactly what you said.

    The Premier league must see there's a massive problem there, the product is sold as the most competitive league in the world but the facts don't really bare that out when it comes to who's winning the title every year.

    If City wriggle out of their charges as we all expect them to this will just continue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,035 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    In the league Arsenal beat them in the FA Cup Semi-Final in July 2020 don't think they have played 15 times since then

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,872 ✭✭✭✭Fitz*


    3 losses & 1 draw, including the cup game against City.

    Momentum killer. Away to Villa now in the early game Saturday. Away 12.30 kick offs are not nice, especially after a midweek game.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,054 ✭✭✭wanderer100


    Arsenal next 2 games are Villa and Leicester both away whereas City play Forest and Bournemouth.

    Can see Arsenal dropping points in those games. City clear favourites now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,035 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    Got to laugh at fans complaining about City walking the league now but were celebrating them saving football when Liverpool were challenging them.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭doc_17


    Klopp is best manager in the world, he is one a kind. Pep couldn’t do what Klopp does and still hasn’t won the CL despite sustained cheating in that competition as well for which they were banned for 2 years, but got it overturned on a technicality - not proven innocent. That club are a Sportswashing entity that true sportspeople look upon with disdain.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,109 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    That was similar story though, wasn't it? The richest team winning the league far more often than not. The difference is that Utd did it with money they generated themselves through being really good at the business side as well as the football side, continuously growing the club organically in a very intelligent way. City have just had a truckload of money dumped upon it, like winning the lottery or something, that they're doing everything they can (through fair means or foul) to funnel into the club.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,921 ✭✭✭✭SlickRic


    Maybe Neville is right about Arsenal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,758 ✭✭✭Ottoman_1000


    Of course they will wriggle out, no way they're getting done on this. The top brass at EPL head quarters will be hoping the Saudi cash will have gotten Newcastle up to the top by the time Klopp leaves Liverpool. That and a potential Qatari backed UTD will keep their best league in the world hype machine going...they simply cannot afford to not turn a blind eye to any charges and dodgy new owners coming on board!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,643 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    It's not a new thing in the EPL is my point. United dominated when most of the other sides didn't have the funds to compete. That isn't the case now where the EPL is basically a super league and even midtable sides are able to challenge teams with European football for signings. Monaco and Lille were able to stop PSG's Qatari era with a fraction of those kinds of funds. There's no excuse for the other EPL teams not being able to challenge City better than they have.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,166 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    That was just football supporters being sh1thouses.

    In the end City were a nowhere club yo-yo-ing from relegation to promotion until they fell arse first into a pile of money.

    We've all just been reminded of how wrong it is in light of the charges taken by the Premier league after years of jut accepting that City would be winning the title most seasons because nobody had the stomach to actually go after them.

    I fully expect City to come out of this situation without so much as a Slap on the wrist and their utter dominance to continue albeit with Newcastle competing with them going forward.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭Sandor Clegane


    City's spending has nothing to do with Arsenal buckling, what were they, like 8 points clear at one stage? they've wobbled and it's all to do with them, not City's spending.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,166 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    City having 100 million pound Jack Grealish sitting on the bench most of the season scoring the goal that puts them back on top of the table is something no one else in the league can compete with.

    Even with all the crazy money in the Premier League these days, City are miles ahead of the competition and have been for years, they've spent their way to where they are now end of story.

    Arsenal were top of the table for months, nobody expected that going into this season, they deserve respect for that achievement but titles are won by squads over the full length of the season and City have essentially got two first teams to put out which is a massive advantage that is impossible to overcome.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,921 ✭✭✭✭SlickRic


    I always chuckle at this logic.

    Isn't it funny how the richest team is always so good they can take advantage with runs to get them to 90+ points?

    Of course money has a role.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 20,226 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    yeah. arteta was being annoying keeping the ball away from KDB so he pushed him.

    i just figured that would be a straight red



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,472 ✭✭✭theoneeyedman


    City deserved the win on the night, they sustained and if anything upped the pace through the second half. Arsenal just ran out of steam, and couldn't compete for the 100 minutes required, no shame really. Partay was a loss, as indeed was Jesus on the night.

    It might be a microchism of the season - curt were all action up to the new year, but seem a little slower since. The likes of Martinell has been poor of late Co lares to early in the season, and nketia is a poor enough sub for Jesus, in spite of a hot streak for a few games there.

    It does come down to resources.... in a parallel universe city can't afford to throw 50 plus million on the table for the likes of Phillips to make a handful of appearances, and he'd become available to the likes of Arsenal to sign for more realistic money. Credit to them on the night, but anyone with eyes can see the playing field is not level though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,109 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    There are degrees though, aren't there? It's a lot harder to get on board with when the money is infinite, and it's coming from nothing to do with football. It's just this ever expanding bubble, becoming increasingly divorced from the actual football industry, which is a bad thing for everyone involved that's trying to operate as a viable business. To win the league over City, you need them to really fck up and this financially doped juggernaut to fall apart, just the same as PSG fcked up to allow Monaco and Lille in. Unfortunately City have been far better with their infinite money than PSG have, which gives everyone else next to no chance.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭Sandor Clegane


    I'm not saying money never has a role, of course it does just not in this case, City's money isn't the cause for the wobble Arsenal are having now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,682 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Is Jesus anywhere close to resurrection? Will we have to wait till Easter?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,166 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    Arsenal were always going to have a wobble and City were always the best placed to take advantage of it.

    City's money is the reason they're best placed to take advantage of Arsenals wobble.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,109 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    It may not be - though with one chunk of that wobble coming against City, they're at least responsible for some of it. The problem is that one very small wobble (which with better reffing wouldn't even be a wobble), is enough to basically derail a title run now, because anything other than complete continuous perfection is no longer enough to win a title.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭Sandor Clegane




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,166 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    Except it's patently unfair.

    Nobody is positioned to properly challenge City for the next few years so we can get used to their continued dominance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,791 ✭✭✭McFly85


    It will be ridiculous to watch this City team that’s been charged with dozens of financial breaches of PL rules celebrating their 7th PL title with their striker on nearly a million a week and their 100 million pound bench player.

    Leaving aside City’s punishment if they’re guilty, the PL need a much swifter mechanism for reviewing team financials.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭doc_17


    That’s such a silly take. Do you understand football? Arsenal have been picking basically the same 13 players for every game in a condensed season. City have a £60m back up DM on the bench, with a £60m Laporte as back up to the £60m Dias and £40m Ake. And a £100m pound record signing who scored a vital goal and who keeps Foden on the bench? And the man who scored 4 goals in Copa De Libertaroras Final is on the bench in case they needed him - they didn’t.

    Yeah, but it’s bottle according to you. Where was City’s bottle when Brentford beat them? A complete, total and maybe intended misreading of what happened tonight.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,512 ✭✭✭population


    If Qatar takes over UTD then they'll start running City close and overtake them eventually. They already have better players and a better manager than Newcastle.

    It'll be a pity though. UTD are a proper heritage club with a legitimate claim to be considered one of the best in the history of top division football. Man City and Newcastle turning into playthings for Middle East despots is one thing but if it happens to Man Utd or Liverpool it really would be hard to swallow.



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