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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 177 ✭✭MudSpud


    i'm not sure if you are referring to me but when did I say that Crimea was given to Ukraine in 1991?



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    In consideration of your post, my considered reply is… you are deluded.

    More importantly, Russophiles sound be very familiar with defeat and be more than capable of spelling the words lose/losing. I make mistakes myself (aka incorrect autocorrect 😝) but some are more painful than others to read. TIA.

    Post edited by [Deleted User] on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,461 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Thanks for the latest from the Kremlin. Now back to reality with Bob.

    Bob....

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,322 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    But not quite so prescient as to "correctly predicted how Russia would loose a war with Ukraine." Russia hasn't lost the war with Ukraine (not to speak of not having a hope of winning it) such as to make the prediction correct.

    What is a Ukrainian win btw? For me, a Russian victory is the taking of Donbass, Odessa and the landlocking of Ukraine. allied with the unconditional surrender of Kiev and the fall of the US government there.


    Suffice to say, the world needs the US to loose.

    Russia has already lost, even if they swarmed across Ukraine to the Polish border by next weekend. Their economy is heavily affected. That they keep swearing it's not to anyone who will listen is a sure sign of that. Just like HIMARS didn't matter, but mattered enough that they now have to manhandle supplies to the front over much longer distances because of them. They've lost their massive financial stream from Europe, where the vast majority of their pipelines went, not to their apparent "friends", who they're selling off their oil to at an operating loss.

    They're cut off from most of Western investment, finance, insurance and shipping for the foreseeable future and trying to get a couple of small African nations on side won't replace that. Never mind that they have to go to Iran and North Korea for arms supply. Their aeropsace industry has fallen off a cliff. Internal flights are a less than a tenth of what they were before this. Even their "homegrown" airliners used Western engines and avionics as it's not the Soviet Union any more.

    They've also increased the number of countries to jostling to join NATO and have effectively cut themselves off from Europe for the foreseeable future, while Europe and elsewhere is looking to rearm.

    BRICS? They'll be a junior partner there as China alone are vastly bigger than them economically and going by Ukraine militarily with it, and there isn't exactly a lot of love lost there anyway. China's trade with Europe and the US and vice versa is ten times what it is with Russia, never mind markets like Australia, Japan etc. The Chinese are not hotheaded fools and know the score. No? Watch what happened when the West banned Russia's impounded Boeing and Airbus fleets from their airspaces. The Chinese banned them too within the week. What does that tell you?

    On top of their already existing serious demographic problem that was so bad they were paying mothers thousands to have kids, since this war many tens of thousands of mostly young Russians have joined the many that left before and while we can debate the figures fired out by both sides, they're certainly and directly losing many thousands in Ukraine. Now the EU had her own demographic stagnation, but it wasn't as bad as Russia's and now because of this moronic war they've gone and "gifted" millions of mostly young Europeans to the same EU, many of whom will stay. If Russia actually "wins" in Ukraine that number will grow again

    As for the war itself? They've lost 50% of their gains and the front hasn't moved in months. They've been chopping and changing commanders with the wind, while relying on private armies to do much of the heavy lifting. They're hiding their fleet from a nation that doesn't have a navy, they don't have anything like air superiority and can't seem to do combined arms warfare with anything approaching skill. Their tactics are old school WW2 stuff; hammer with artillery, throw in wave after wave of bullet stoppers, then send in their better troops and as I said still the front hasn't moved in months.

    As for the government in Kiev; you want it back to a Russian government, another vassal like Belarus. The fact they looked West was enough for putin to have a fit.

    As for America losing. They've come out of this the better of it so far. Again even if Russia "won" Ukraine next week, the US has spent what amounts to a pittance for them. They've gained huge amounts of intel on Russian forces, gained valuable lessons in how Russia fights and saw how their weapons platforms work in the real world. Economically? The US' economy is so massive it makes Russia's look like a small nation in Europe. Hell, Ireland had more exports than Russia last year and Russia has a population nearly 30 times larger and has infinitely more natural resources. The Chinese will most certainly keep dealing with the US and vice versa with the usual back and forth sabre rattling, so long as it doesn't affect bottom lines, ditto for the EU.

    BTW you forgot to add in that Zelensky is a billionaire cocaine sniffer whose wife spends squillions in Parisien boutiques. That Ukraine would still love Mother Russia if those dastardly Americans hadn't turned their heads. Yet Russia wasn't welcomed in with open arms by their Ukrainian "brothers"? Hmmm... Plus look at behind the lines attacks. They're all behind the Russian lines in "their" Ukraine. Bugger all such attacks behind Ukrainian lines. What does that tell you? I'd throw in child soldiers, biolabs, dirty nuclear bombs and weaponised mosquitos too. And I wonder what happened to the Russian claims of chemical warfare last week? That caught amnesia even faster than usual for Russian scuttlebutt. Even the Yanks had the cop on to give up on the WMD BS when the jig was up.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 728 ✭✭✭20Wheel


    I cannot access rt.com.

    Normal browser. Normal computer. Ireland.

    Putin is a dictator. Putin should face justice at the Hague. All good Russians should work to depose Putin. Russias war in Ukraine is illegal and morally wrong.



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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,902 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    Those are Bradleys. Not the absolute latest and greatest variant thereof, but good enough.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,015 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    Dispatches Tonight 10pm Channel 4 sounds fun.


    The extraordinary story of Russia's covert attempts to corrupt British politics, influence government policy and undermine our democracy in the years before the invasion of Ukraine. Over the past 12 years, donors with links to Russia have poured millions into the coffers of the ruling Conservative Party. Dispatches reveals how senior politicians ignored the warnings about President Putin to the detriment of our national security, how political activists were encouraged to visit a Moscow strip club, and hears allegations concerning a Russian 'diplomat' seeking information from a government minister over a pint in a pub



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,067 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    His point that the German forces in Western Europe were small in number and more often older and poorer equipped is correct.


    The counter offensive part of the battle of Kursk saw about 3.5mn on the field from both sides and half a million boxed by the end of it, over about 5 weeks.


    The scale of the Eastern front isn't understood, 8 out of 10 axis soldiers died in the Eastern front.


    That's not much use 80 years later when a year in to a bloody war and Ivan and the Comrades are a bicycle ride from where they were at the start of last year, it actually makes it worse.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 177 ✭✭MudSpud


    Thank you. Jesus I had to ask the question a dozen times before an honest person could answer it.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,322 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    To be fair SeanMD, Russia's "Official History" of WW2 is sketchy to say the least. Never mind they put the date of the start of it in 41, handily avoiding the fact they were supplying nazi Germany with vast amounts of oil, steel and grain while WW2 in Europe had already been going on for two years. And handily avoiding that they agreed with the same Nazi Germany to carve up Eastern Europe between them. Just ask the Poles. And handily avoiding the fact that they were the ones to directly help Germany arm up before the Austrian corporal even showed up. This is a map of such bases in said cooperation between them. At one point the Soviet Union even got into talks to join the AXIS.

    major_reichswehr_facilities_in_the_soviet_union_crop_2.jpg

    And then hitler broke the deal. Only then did "The Great Patriotic War" break out. Funny that. A war they would have almost certainly lost without the huge supplies of materiel and food the Allies sent by way of lend lease, which Comrade Stalin himself recognised and acknowledged.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,067 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    What's neglected as well is that the Poles while being poorly equipped were destroying German armour at a furious rate, about one third up to the Soviet forces invading and splitting them.


    Poland would still have lost but Germany would have been deeply wounded without help from its Communist comrades.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Not true at all .


    Ukraine are not done , Ukraine are winning and will keep winning



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭Curious_Case




  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    It was 20Wheel that answered you, not Jesus. He's also likely to be like minded to yourself - 20wheel that is.

    Anyway, you are calling people liars that say they can access RT.com from Ireland simply through their regular browser - if the mods can do likewise are you okay for them to ban you for calling people liars that the mods can prove were telling the truth?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,810 ✭✭✭threeball


    It was on your favourite channel. Maybe if you knew how to use a search bar you'd have seen it. Correct horse staple battery, you might do the honours and show this kremlin pawn the link.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Frankly, no one here except you gives a crap about RT. Nobody.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,140 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    No point in providing a link, using the internet is beyond him. You hear a lot about “useful idiots”, but it’s rare to come across such a useless one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29 Sharknose




  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Do you know what soviey union is,look it up and see if it exist anymore

    And if you look at the map of crimea and notice the navy base in sevastopol and its strategic placed towards Odessa,Kherson and Mariupol

    You will figure it out.

    How was it possible for Russia to block transport of grain earlier i wonder?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 728 ✭✭✭20Wheel


    I don't affiliate myself with anyone on here. I call things as I can best see them from the most reliable facts I can find.

    If you can find something relevant and demonstrably incorrect which I've said then step up. lets see it.

    Wish I could speak more freely.

    Edit: no step up. as expected.

    Post edited by 20Wheel on

    Putin is a dictator. Putin should face justice at the Hague. All good Russians should work to depose Putin. Russias war in Ukraine is illegal and morally wrong.



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    What part of human wave attacks and barrier troops did you miss?

    Running into artillery,machine guns,grenade launchers and sniper fire?



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Obviously you havent noticed the high casualties sustained by wagner group,because they used human wave attacks,barrier troops.

    And now the russian regular army is doing the same

    I believe the people on the ground in Ukraine saying it than some russian propaganda or conspiracy site that you obviously believe in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,919 ✭✭✭ronivek


    Confused as to why there has to be literal pages of posts on access to Russia Today when even the most rudimentary search will tell you:

    Russia Today has been banned in the EU (and other regions) as part of the sanctions against Russia. In general you shouldn't be able to view any of their content from inside the EU; but it's not beyond the realm of possibility that some sites or resources may be accessible from particular locations or service providers.

    The justification according to Josep Borrell:

    Systematic information manipulation and disinformation by the Kremlin is applied as an operational tool in its assault on Ukraine. It is also a significant and direct threat to the Union’s public order and security. Today, we are taking an important step against Putin’s manipulation operation and turning off the tap for Russian state-controlled media in the EU. We have already earlier put sanctions on leadership of RT, including the editor-in-chief Simonyan, and it is only logical to also target the activities the organisations have been conducting within our Union.

    Whether you agree with the justification or with media censorship in general is another issue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,555 ✭✭✭antiskeptic


    ...according to who? The BBC??



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,555 ✭✭✭antiskeptic


    They use human wave tactics when they have no need to. And your critical evaluation of that notion is what? The BBC said so?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Where's your sources.


    What was the claim "Ukraine are done"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,555 ✭✭✭antiskeptic


    It's a fake book.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Do you believe the earth is flat too,maybe?

    That will explain alot



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,555 ✭✭✭antiskeptic


    Not the BBC.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭Curious_Case


    You're actually beginning to sow seeds of doubt in my mind.

    Please help me understand better.



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