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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,149 ✭✭✭ParkRunner


    There are still lots of Europeans (including Irish) living and working in Russia, Moscow in particular. Granted some have left since the outbreak of the war but there is a real misperception of what Russia is like here



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    Sure some have stayed and the sensible ones would have followed their embassy’s/consulate’s guidance.

    For a country in dire need to put its best foot forward, the trolls they employ to post online don’t give a good impression of much intelligence remaining in Russia.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭Curious_Case


    Looks like the cleaning staff at Orwell Rd. have been let loose on the consoles

    It's a swamping tactic, so time now to ignore them (him?)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    The US now believes Russia has Lost 50% of it's main tank force in Ukraine,I believe that the figure is north of 60% of it's tank force ,they seem to be losing 20 + tanks week in some parts of Ukraine,along with various Apcs .





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,149 ✭✭✭ParkRunner


    I lived and worked there myself for a couple of years. It’s a lot safer than the cities in Ireland, very little anti social behaviour. The wealthy elite control the country but the millions of ordinary people are just like the rest of us



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    So Russia lost ~50% of their tank force.... Anyone have the figure for Ukraine?

    It's obviously increased, just wonder by how much. Excluding tanks due to arrive, like the next batch of T72's from Poland.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Tanks (457, of which destroyed: 271, damaged: 27, abandoned: 17, captured: 142)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    I wouldn’t be so sure that they are just like us Irish. I can’t see people here sitting back and allowing conscription for an imperialistic war. Try to charge for water is insignificant in comparison and people were having none of it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,018 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Yes, I get all of that, the whys and wherefores. Back in 2014 two friends of mine were working in Dunbass, and the cryptic msg out from them was typical Irish " There's two sides to every story", so that's very true. But neither did it warrant the kind of intervention that Putin brought, fact is that even if there had not been any aggro between the ethnic Russians and Ukrainians or even without the NATO excuse Putin had his mind set on bringing Ukraine ( and others) back under his control. And that's why I asked the very basic question if the poster ( Chester) if he agreed with Putin's aggression or Ukraine's defending their Country. So far, he has not answered it.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I would say the 700k that ran away from mobilization last time are like us,the ones that stayed behind are not,since they are in Ukraine now fighting for a madman in Kremlin



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    So Ukraine started with 900

    Lost 457, captured 546 and received at least 361 from allies. So should be at about 1350 now.

    I just done a quick Google on their initial quantity of 900 tanks at the start of the war.

    So Russia lost 50%, Ukraine gained 50% 🤣



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Before it used to be nazis running away to Argentina,now its Russian pregnant women,the irony



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,322 ✭✭✭dinorebel


    Must be lunchtime at the embassy it's all gone very quiet.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    New prime minister appointed who is pro-EU. Hopefully they can stay the course what with the constant instability that the secessionists cause in the eastern part of the country.  




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,069 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭Dufflecoat Fanny


    Ìt's happening everywhere apparently across all social media a blitz of trolling. The kremlin scutter pump is in overdrive



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 275 ✭✭Seanmadradubh


    The reason for this war is very simple, Imperial Expansion.

    Putin wants to be Peter The Great 2.0

    If Russia succeeds then that will give a green light to other wanna be conquerors, the West/NATO etc MUST keep helping Ukraine and ensure their victory otherwise things could get very very nasty for a lot more people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 373 ✭✭Slava_Ukraine


    I’ve honestly noticed this myself. Any site that allows comments is riddled with pro russian rubbish. I wondered if that is the general view of ordinary Europeans/Irish and came to the conclusion it’s not, as anyone I know, both here and abroad has nothing but disdain for the kremlin.

    Post edited by Slava_Ukraine on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,405 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    The Russian trolls / right wingers / conspiracy theorists are hugely over-represented on social media. They are very loud and vocal and try to give the impression there are many millions of them (and they even claim to be the "silent majority"), but in reality it's just the same cranks and crackpots churning out thousands of tweets and comments over and over again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 121 ✭✭dtothebtotheh


    I just don’t believe it’s purely about imperial expansion. This has been very costly for Russia, I’m not sure if taking eastern Ukraine would be worth it for them.

    Generally with wars, I’d follow the money trail, I just can’t see how it’s beneficial for Russia.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭Dufflecoat Fanny


    They have no interest in winning an argument really it's just to frustrate the regulars enough for them to take a break and then poison the well. This thread won't let that happen anyway. Twitter and tiktok are already infested but they have no real moderation so I don't bother there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,458 ✭✭✭zv2


    I think it is possible to have Ukraine as a member of nato but with no nukes. After all, Russia has nukes and is right beside Ukraine. So a non nuclear Ukraine seems fair to me, provided people are willing to be growed up and responsible. No more dictators for Russia. They need a senate.

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,051 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Seems like it's one man's war, primarily. Not that this one man is doing any of the actual fighting.

    If we consider how small Russia's economy was relative to its size, even before Ukraine was poised to pivot westward, it makes me question the pure economic incentive for war, taking the concept of war as a way requisition resources. Say the conflict goes on for five years - it could leave Russia's economy even smaller than it had been.

    If we go over to Russia's security concerns... They have NUKES. Thousands of NUKES. World ending amounts of NUKES. The idea of needing to push their borders until they hit natural obstacles is thinking that belongs in the 19th century when it was relevant (cue quip about Russian mindsets being stuck in that century). Once again, no one can ever invade Russia, even if the whole territory is literally surrounded by NATO countries.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭Dufflecoat Fanny



    UK lost almost every plane it sent up during the battle of Britain but they had far less losses in pilots than the Germans because they floated down over England or the English channel. Brits got their men back but the Germans didn't. The very same thing is playing out in Ukraine. When those soviet tanks are hit they all die inside 99% of the time no survivors. all these new tankers sent in are rushed through like all the others hence the column that was massacred a few days ago.

    Even if by some miracle they could conjure 1000 t-90s would the hell could use them efficiently in 6 months



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 177 ✭✭MudSpud


    You don't seem to care much about people's aspirations for their own destiny if that contradicts your opinions of where borders should run. Since 1783 Crimea was part of Russia. The people of Crimea are predominantly ethnic Russians in language and culture. After 1917 Crimea was still part of Russia but in the context of the larger USSR. In 1954 Khruschev ceded Crimea to the Ukrainian SSR in a cheap vote winning bid. This was totally against the wishes of the Crimean people. But after assurances that their status would not be affected as they were still under the umbrella of the USSR and ruled by Moscow, they reluctantly and grudgingly accepted the situation. Things changed dramatically for them in 1991 when the USSR broke and they found themselves isolated and ruled by Kyiv. They made repeated attempts at secession and to rejoin Russia but these attempts were blocked, delayed or went unanswered. After 2014 the pro-Westerrn puppet government of Yatsenyuk and his administration started to make life very difficult for Russians within Ukraine's borders, banning the Russian language, seizing the pensions of Russian OAPs, etc. and attempting to send gangs of far-right thugs and Ukrainian military personnel to Crimea to terrorise the population and seize the Sevastopol naval base, ostensibly to hand it over to NATO and evict Russia from it's only warm water naval port. This is where the situation rapidly metastisized. Russia sent troops to defend the port and convened a referendum on Crimea returning to Russia. And the rest is history.

    So from 1783 until today, some 240 years, Crimea has been part of an independent Ukraine for a grand total of 23 years and in that blink-of-an-eye period they have been relentlessly seeking to leave Ukraine and rejoin Russia.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭Dufflecoat Fanny


    Ah will you ever just go hang yourself ya pathetic slave


    Vladimir Putin has described Crimea as Russia’s “center of spiritual unity.” In reality, it has been home to more than 100 nationalities, and was brutally “Russified” by Joseph Stalin in the 1940s.

    One of those nationalities, the Crimean Tatars, have called the peninsula home for many centuries. They remained there even after Catherine the Great’s victory over Ottoman forces in 1783.

    But in 1944, Joseph Stalin formally ordered the deportation of the entire Crimean Tatar community (roughly 200,000 in number), falsely accusing them of collaborating with the Nazis. Stalin’s government forcibly loaded most onto freight cars bound for Central Asia, where they were to be resettled. Reports suggest that nearly half of the deported died during the ordeal. Ukraine, Latvia, Lithuania, and Canada have all formally recognized Stalin’s brutal deportation as a crime of genocide or cultural genocide.

    During this same period, the Soviet Union adopted a policy of “Russification” for the peninsula. Crimea was “Russified”: Any study of the Tatar’s native language was banned, ancient Tatar names were erased, Tatar books were burned, and their mosques were destroyed.

    The next chapter in the saga occurred in the 1950s when Nikita Khrushchev transferred Crimea from Soviet Russia to Soviet Ukraine, ostensibly for administrative reasons. Tatar families were formally permitted to return to Crimea in 1967, and a few hundred families did over the following decade. They began moving back in larger numbers during the 1980s and 90s. In fact, by 1991, more than 150,000 Tatars had returned. But after the collapse of the Soviet Union, Crimea was suddenly a part of a new, separate country, to which several prominent Russian politicians vehemently objected.

    Tatar fortunes took yet another dark turn when Russian forces moved to occupy Crimea in 2014. The occupiers immediately began a campaign of persecution against the Tatar community, “outlawing” the Crimean Tatar representative body (the Mejlis) and shutting down a Tatar television channel. The State Department subsequently has cited numerous human rights violations against the Tatar population, including torture, disappearances, and psychiatric abuse. Moreover, since the Russian occupation in 2014, about 10% of Tatars have fled to mainland Ukraine. Many of them have settled in Kherson—another Ukrainian city currently under threat by Russian forces.

    Given the legacy of brutal treatment of Crimean Tatars and other nationalities by the Kremlin, President Putin’s reference to Crimea as Russia’s “spiritual holy land,” serves as a chilling reminder of what President Zelenskyy is up against.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 177 ✭✭MudSpud


    I'll definitely start following his updates. Thx.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,322 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    UK lost almost every plane it sent up during the battle of Britain

    Eh no, no they didn't.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,197 ✭✭✭Addmagnet


    The dilemma of whether to continue posting and by proxy end up helping the Ukrainians, or not posting and giving us all some blessed peace is a win-win as far as I'm concerned.

    Edit:

    Runningrings and Mudspud should be proud of themselves!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭Dufflecoat Fanny


    fairly sure the factories and lend lease couldn't catch up with the losses



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