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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭Virgil°


    Yeah this is something I heavily disagree with also. As soon as the landbridge is cut. And I imagine it will be at some point in the coming counteroffensives. How can Russians feasibly stay there? As soon as the GLSDBs or later the HIMARS/storm shadows start eating into the Kersch bridge. Ukraine don't need to roll across Crimea by force.

    It doesn't matter how well the russians are dug in if they can't transport a loaf of bread to the peninsula without the UAF turning it into burned toast before it arrives. It becomes an unsustainable Cul de Sac.

    Again we come back to the Nuclear argument though. I understand Crimea is a much more ethnically Russian leaning location, indeed i know two people in real life from Crimea. One just wants no war and the other wants Crimea to be part of Russia.

    But as much as Putin believes Crimea is Russia. Crimea is Russian in the same way that Donbas and Kherson is Russian -> they're not.

    Allowing Putin to keep Crimea for fear of The Nukes is a much more dangerous red line to cross. One that we already know the result of, well, because here we are facing the consequences of it. I subscribe to the Ben Hodges line of thinking on this. Ukraine will never be safe or allowed to recover economically as long as Russia sits in Sevastapol denying Ukraine free access to the Black Sea.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,916 ✭✭✭eire4


    Good. I hope we are one of the 35 countries and if not we should add our support to this move as well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 177 ✭✭MudSpud


    If you want this war to stop then why aren't you in favour of calling a ceasefire and entering peace negotiations? This war is being fought on Ukrainian soil. Only UKRAINIAN civilians are dying, not Russian civilians. What are the alternatives? Keep fighting and dying? Before this war started Ukraine had a population of 32 million. 10 million have left the country. The place has been hollowed out. People say "there can be no peace or even negotiations until Russia surrender, withdraw from all territory and then pay for everything they destroyed". What kind of cloud cuckoo land talk is that? Can Ukraine win? What's your definition of "winning"? I very much doubt it. I'm sorry if stating the obvious amounts to treason.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 177 ✭✭MudSpud


    He graduated from West Point and had a nearly 30 year career in the army.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,011 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Even the purported leak of the real results of the sham Russian referendum in Crimea showed there was only a turnout of 30% and only half voted for Russian control.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    He's been sucking diesel fumes for too long he's not the only one by the looks of things



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,411 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    I've been to Sachsenhausen. It's a horrendous place and conditions were brutal there - there were many executions and hangings in the camp.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,011 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe



    He's such a mixture of blunt truth and then absurd propaganda, like he remembers to throw it in at the last minute. The Kremlin must hate whenever the guy opens his mouth




  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,322 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    The mucky fella is back. @MudSpud I proved you wrong about not being able to access rt.com and you are now silent on it after making such a big deal. Did you figure out which of your folks blocked you from descending further down the Russian propaganda rabbit hole?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,357 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Anyone know anything of the Crimean settlers that Putin was calling for after 2014?

    E.g the south African boer farmers, etc.

    My own opinion Crimea will fall back to Ukraine. With the millions of personnel of the Ukrainian army and an area just the size of Munster with the geography of just one bridge joining to Russia and ships able to be hit and as is Crimea is available to be hit by Ukrainian weapons and the fresh water supply coming from the North. Ukraine knows it needs Crimea if Agriculture, industry has any chance of flourishing and being exported on the high seas.

    Russia never needed it, it already had ample ports and access in the Black sea. But it knew if it was to cripple Ukraine, Crimea was there to be taken.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,322 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    I'm not saying it's some impregnable fortress or anything like it, but - and whether we like it or not - to putin, his government and Russians it is Russia(which also means by their own nuclear doctrine a direct attack on Russia). Far more than Donbas and it would be a huge line in the sand. One I suspect the US and therefore NATO won't want to cross. For a start Turkey would express a large WTF. Rockets and artillery can only do so much, as Russians have learned. They've fired a lot of both, IIRC the most since WW2 in a specific theatre and look how stalled their progress has been. In the end it will be one bunch of poor bastards on the ground killing the other bunch to actually take the ground, as it's always been.

    The coming counteroffensives by Ukraine? Well I do live in hope on that score, but at the moment it's a lot of hope. This is not the first months of this war when Russia were laughably shambolic strategically and tactically and logistically all over the place. Yes they've lost 50% of what they initially took, but they have held the other 50%, even moving slightly forward in some areas and they still outgun Ukraine in a few key areas. Yes the fronts haven't moved much, but that goes both ways. Yes they don't have air superiority, but neither do Ukraine, but both can make a bloody good fist at air mission deniability for the other. Yes Ukraine will get some MTB's eventually, but in small numbers, they certainly won't be a "wonderweapon". Remember we're not Russians, so we shouldn't ape their thinking. They're going to be a right pain in the arse logistically too. Platforms like these fabled F-16's would be way worse on a few fronts. For me anyway the Bradleys and similar will be a bigger gamechanger. More HIMARS too. However, unless there's another collapse like seen in Kharkiv IMHO a Ukrainian counteroffensive is at this moment as much pie in the sky as pro Russians believing they're going to roll on across to the banks of the Dneiper and take the entire south coast.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,677 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    But Mudspud said it wasn't too bad. @Mudspud how did you come to that observation? I mean, you're not a Nazi are you, @Mudspud? Or, I guess, technically speaking, a modern NeoNazi since the real Nazis are pushing up the dandelions by now (well, except for the occasional extremely elderly ones that get ferreted out).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 567 ✭✭✭Bitcoin




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,797 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Darth Putin nails it again.

    "None of my tankies/trolls have said that by violating Moldovan airspace Russia has 'escalated the war'. Strange."

    Where are all our self proclaimed neutral commentators now? Violation of a neutral countrys airspace and they goto ground.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/DarthPutinKGB/status/1624088693290983428

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 567 ✭✭✭Bitcoin


    Crimea returning to Ukraine is non negotiable.

    The orcs can either provide it via another goodwill gesture, or they will be destroyed once Ukraine hits the Kerch bridge again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,043 ✭✭✭Polar101


    Btw, the ones that suffered heavy losses in the Vuhledar attack, they were the supposedly elite troops that are meant to be used as shock troops. Didn't work out very well for them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 177 ✭✭MudSpud


    Bansera wasn't lumped in with the general population. He was given a warm cell and 3 square meals a day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 567 ✭✭✭Bitcoin


    It's quietened down the same way an alcoholic says he's reformed because he's down to 2 litres of vodka a day instead of 3 litres.

    The orcs are hemorrhaging badly, every day. putler doesn't care, he will bleed his country to the last orc.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 177 ✭✭MudSpud


    Is your prediction then that the Russians will be forced to withdraw from all Ukrainian territory, including Crimea?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭macraignil


    putin has made it clear he has no intention of volunteering to give up the territory that he has sent russian troops to steal from Ukraine, killing thousands of people in the process. While I am against war, I can't see there being any positive outcome to rewarding putin for killing thousands of innocent people and making millions of people homeless. It seems to me that both sides of the conflict are so far apart in what they consider a reasonable outcome that negotiations at this stage would be very unlikely to reach an agreement.

    It is not just Ukrainian civilians who are being killed currently but according to some sources hundreds of russian troops every day. Is there a chance all of this loss of life in the russian armed forces is going to make them less likely to attack their neighbouring countries in future? Will Ukraine in years to come be more secure because putin will have done such a great job in hollowing out the armed forces of russia? Some sources claim there have been more than 130,000 soldiers fighting on the russian side killed since February last year and how many more have been permanently disabled by putin's quest to kill Ukrainians and steal their land?

    With some of the sources you have confessed to believing in I think cloud cuckoo land is proabably too sensible for you and all I can say is to me it seems perfectly correct that putin should withdraw from the territory russia has invaded and compensate for the destruction he has caused. I think Ukraine can defeat the russian forces sent in to destroy their country. They have now a few hundred thousand well armed soldiers determined to protect their home and family from an invader who has proved to be willing to murder anyone they wish in the territory they have already occupied. I'm not sure it can be called winning with the level of destruction and killing the russian troops have brought with them but loosing from the Ukrainian perspective would very likely see them face even more genocide at the hands of the russians so there is going to be no lack of motivation from them to fight back. I don't understand your comment about treason but guess it is probably just a symptom of the general confusion you have repeatedly demonstrated about facts and reality due to consumption of large volumes of russian misinformation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,677 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Absolutely they leave or they die ,

    And die they Will



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,073 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Thomas Bach, President of the International Olympic Committee (IOC), has reacted quite harshly to Ukraine's intentions to boycott the 2024 Olympic Games in France. He even hinted at the possible punishment for Ukrainian athletes.

    Probably in response to that outrageous threat from the tone deaf filth who head the IOC.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,043 ✭✭✭Polar101


    on Russian TV: Russia has been at war with USA for 80 years, and Satanovsky takes the war to outer space (while everyone else wonders what the f* he is on about).

    But remember, it's important to hear both sides of the conflict! 🙂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,073 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Crimea, the impregnable beach resort and retirement village.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 177 ✭✭MudSpud


    I don't know what country you are in but in Ireland or the Netherlands rt.com is not accessible unless you use vpns/spoofing. I just tried. So whatever little trick you used isn't fooling anyone.

    RT, Sputnik Content Officially Banned Across European Union - Bloomberg



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 177 ✭✭MudSpud


    So Russia will be driven out of all of Ukraine. Is that your prediction? And do you have a timeframe for this?



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