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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,074 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Zelensky has done it again!

    Another classic quote for the book.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,011 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    To go through your questions one by one

    Canadian Leopard 2's have already arrived in Poland, will likely cross the border soon. However long it takes a cargo ship to get to a friendly country. Thousands of pieces of equipment have been delivered to Ukraine, some just takes longer to arrive than others. There's also training to factor in (although sometimes training operates in tandem with the deliveries to speed the process up). Most equipment seems to flow through Poland. Ukraine's rail system is not destroyed.

    How exactly are these Abrams ans Leopards and Bradleys getting to the front in battle condition?

    Transported across Ukraine. Driven to frontlines.

    I'm getting a strange feeling of deja-vu with these questions




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 177 ✭✭MudSpud


    Mercenaries do NOT have to be from a NATO country. They are hired guns. They can come from anywhere. An acquaintance of mine signed up with one of these groups and got paid handsomely for escorting convoys in Iraq. The lunatic is from Monaghan. He's now being paid well manning a machine gun on boats in the Red Sea to kill pirates.

    So don't think for one second that one has to have a loyalty in order to be a mercenary.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭Virgil°


    One thing to consider with regards to what is being announced is that none of us have a clue what is happening in reality.

    I'd suspected for a while now that what's being announced by politicians is the delayed truth. That was confirmed today when Rishi Sunak said (standing in front of the ukrainian tankers training with the challengers) something like "our tanker instructors have informed me that some of you are already better than them after just some weeks of training". Keeping in mind that the challengers were only announced to being sent at all a few weeks ago. So these guys were already earmarked or probably had already begun basic training on the Challengers well in advance of the announcement.

    Same thing applies to fighter jets. I doubt very much the British defense would be announcing that they're training Ukranians on some NATO air hardware if there hadn't already been some training plan made(or indeed actual training done). And probably IMO a type of fighter Jet (Typhoons? F16s?) earmarked for future sending. It would just be a colossal waste of time and resources to train them if that wasn't the case. And indeed they really don't need to. Why give the Russians any sort of heads up on what will be patrolling the skies in the coming months/year?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,011 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Ukrainians were already pictured arriving in the UK one or two weeks ago for Challenger tank training.

    The logistics and planning operation behind the scenes, not just in Ukraine, but in Europe must be staggering.

    As for the information on the equipment being announced, my opinion is that the morale impact for both sides probably outweighs the info being released (which it's likely the Russians will know anyway)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,074 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    "We are talking about weeks, I cannot give you an exact answer... It's been almost a month since they've been here. Usually, if you start teaching from scratch, the training period can take from several months to a year," Kremenetskyy said.

    He added that the training programme was shortened compared to how other specialists are taught. The reason is that Ukraine sends for training those specialists who have experience with air defence systems. They know the basics of operation, the basics of air defence systems, so they don't need to be taught the basic elements.

    Training times in a war are not the same as in peacetime.

    Poland aims to get training time on Leopard 2 battle tanks down to five weeks at a centre where Ukrainian soldiers are likely to be taught how to operate the Western battlefield workhorse against Russia's invasion.

    At a training centre equipped with simulators, 14 crews of four personnel each can undergo instruction at once. Training on the Leopard - the vaunted modern battlefield tank used by many NATO member countries in Europe - has hitherto taken about 10 weeks but this could be reduced to five, instructors said.

    "If we intensify training (by maximising the number of) instructors, our time and our weekends, we can train an entire crew in five weeks," Major Maciej Banaszynski, Poland's Leopard training centre commander, told Reuters on Tuesday.

    "Leopard tanks are third-generation tanks. Their mobility on diverse terrain is better compared to Russian tanks," said chief warrant officer Lukasz Setny, a senior Leopard instructor.

    Ukraians are proving quick on the uptake in Challenger 2 training.

    The British Defense Ministry said on Saturday that Ukrainian troops were quick to learn how to operate Challenger 2 tanks.

    "Tank crews from the Armed Forces of Ukraine have been quick to master the controls of the mighty Challenger 2 this week," the ministry said on Twitter.


    "I'm the Operations Group Commander for the California F-15 unit. One of my duties is to challenge and evaluate ability to fly combat aircraft. My professional assessment, and I've been sharing this with lawmakers this (last) week, is these guys are more than capable of flying our aircraft. 100 percent," he said. ... Juice, who was given his call sign while training with the California Air National Guard in 2018 after repeatedly ordering juice instead of alcohol when out with his American comrades, said the Ukrainian pilots could be trained up on modern American planes in a three to six-month period. https://www.foxnews.com/world/top-air-national-guard-colonel-ukrainian-pilots-100-capable-of-flying-fourth-generation-warplanes

    When Sunak said it nomaly takes 3 years to train a pilot, Zelensky quipped that the'd be sending pilots with 2.5 years training.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,074 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    They are not meant to be in Ukraine yet, they are training in neighbouring countries. They will be taken across the border when the time is right. The French sent Ukraine Crotale air defence systems. There was never any announcement of their arrival or deployment in Ukraine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 177 ✭✭MudSpud


    On what grounds can you BAN a person leaving their country? Praytell?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 177 ✭✭MudSpud


    Does NATO Membership now also come with the caveat that you must operate your economic affairs as the bloc sees fit? If so then it is OBVIOUSLY NOT purely a defensive alliance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭Dufflecoat Fanny


    Gazprom wants to form an army now to protect it's hydrocarbon empire Russia is starting to mutate



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 177 ✭✭MudSpud


    Well there is all this talk about tanks being sent to Ukraine. We see all this footage of thousands of dead "orcs". Where is the footage of these hundreds of tanks that will be a gamechanger? I don't see it. Do you? I see lovely shots of something being loaded onto a plane somewhere. I don't see any evidence of all this stuff arriving in Ukraine and prepped to go for the Russki Spring offensive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 177 ✭✭MudSpud


    I was merely asking where these tanks are, when they will be deployed, how many of them, etc. It is all over the news that the Russkis are about to kick off in the next week or two. If columns of tanks are needed to hold them back and these tanks have been promised...where are they? It's a simple question. If you don't like the question or don't have an answer then don't blame me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,074 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    They might as well everyone else has one, despite the Orc constitution supposedly banning them, but a constitution is only meaningful if you have an independent judiciary, which is not the case in Orcistan. This will be at least the fourth private army there. No wonder they can't field troops against Ukraine, everyone with the money seems to be more concerned about war-lording than fighting externally and snaffling all the military types.

    Good way to avoid conscription, Join Patriot or Gazprom.

    Post edited by cnocbui on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,439 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    There has been multiple columns of tanks pictured on their way to Ukraine, once there, the location will be classified until they are used.

    Why? Because they're not stupid like the russians have been with their battle tactics (or stupid like posters asking where the tanks are).

    That's your answer.

    What's the next russian shill talking point you just want to ask questions about?

    What's your bet on how long the mudspud account will last? Valentines day maybe?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    Ignoring the tough questions again I see. It must be all too real for you…just like all other Russian supporters who refuse to answer that one question.

    Post edited by Fighting Tao on


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    Would GPS co-ordinates do. Should we send to you or simply straight to Orwell road to save you the bother?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭ElitesTeam


    That whole twitter thread is pure nonsense propaganda.

    No way the so called prisoner has time to talk to reporters or the Wagner are using convicts as recruiters lmao.

    But believe everything if reading it makes you happy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,797 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Why would you???

    IN what universe do you think you are ever going to see that ahead of time?

    Have you momentarily forgotten there's a war on???

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 287 ✭✭dennis72


    UK leading the way bet they will be first to announce fighter jets

    The world's worst massacre of a sovereign nation being warned by its unwanted aggressor of escalation to protect itself.

    What putin is doing to his own army is a crime why they don't just collapse



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,819 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭Dufflecoat Fanny


    Fogp4_dXwAUykiP.jpeg

    Musk being a POS human again. He mustn't have been feeling needed in the last few days after seeing Zelensky in UK. The creep needs to be boycotted completely.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,074 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    An Austrian Ombudsman took two Ukrainian children there who were sheltering from the war and to Russia and handed them over. Sick.

    Due to recent revelations I'll assume it was for use by pedophiles or the porn industry unless it's proven otherwise.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭Dufflecoat Fanny




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,549 ✭✭✭Raoul Duke III


    The US government will have a 'polite discussion' with him, again. And he'll backtrack, again.

    These coke-fuelled tweets remind me of Nixon's threats to nuke Hanoi, when he'd had a few bourbons of an evening. The US military was under strict instructions not to act on any of his orders after a certain hour. He'd then pretend nothing had happened in the morning.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    The guy is a fecking idiot - he's supposed to be a 'good businessman' and yet insists regularly on pissing off his customer base. The old mantra that there's no such thing as bad publicity doesn't hold for long. The boards of the companies he runs must regularly be tearing their hair out at his interventions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,549 ✭✭✭Raoul Duke III


    He's off his head on marching powder.

    As are the Wagnerites storming Bakhmut, but that's a different story.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,678 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    From a new reg. Whoulda thunk. FWIW the post earlier today about the logistics - yathink there might have been Ukrainians training all along prior to this announcement? Don't see why a smart country wouldn't have done that already.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,074 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    A couple of weeks ago I gave them a donation sufficient to make one, when I saw a fundraising drive for the elves building them.

    Killing Orcs by proxy - always ahead of the curve.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,678 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    You're newly registered. How do you know about Boards popularity from a few years ago?

    Feel free to provide some verified evidence to the contrary



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