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Russian military budget $69B, the USA alone has pumped $100B into Ukraine last year
What that actually shows is the incredible gap between Russian resources and America's. The latter spends over ten times that on a yearly basis. This meme while childish has a lot of truth to it.
100 billion is essentially buttons to them and while they're at it, they have some of their allies in the region giving out of date Soviet/Russian kit to Ukraine, in exchange for more up to date US kit, thus increasing their arms export industry for the future. If nothing else comes out of this misadventure the Russian arms export industry is effectively on life support, if not dead for the foreseeable(never mind the sanctions that constrict supply in the first place). Well Iran and North Korea will buy some from them. Bless.
USA carrier cant enter the Black Sea, come on you know that, so why post it?
Fact is Aircraft carriers, jut like Battleships in WW2 are obsolete, a aircraft carrier is only good again rinky dink military's, a modern one with plenty of anti ship missiles just fires dozens at once, overwhelm the defense's only one has to hit home and the aircraft carrier is sunk.
Indeed, as what happened to the Russian flagship in the area. Sunk by a nation who doesn't have a navy, while the rest of the Russian fleet hides on the other side of Crimea to avoid the same nation without a navy.
My point was the level of overwhelming force actual NATO could bring to bear on Russia's conventional forces would render them ineffective in very short order(the carrier fleet would not be the first shot fired. Observe how US combined forces operate. The fleet would be in play after Russian forces would be rendered effectively blind and deaf). There would certainly be NATO losses, but Russia's would be far far higher, and they know it. Their only chip to throw in - and they mention it a lot, which should tell you something - are their nuclear weapons.
Never mind that NATO had no and still have no intention of direct military contact. They're happy to sit back and watch, and watch Russia bleed out with none of their servicemen coming back draped in the Stars and Stripes. QV the missile that landed in Poland and killed two Poles. The Ukrainians accused Russia of it, but within hours the US and NATO were directly and publicly contradicting the Ukrainians, said it was a rogue Ukrainian missile and kept them out of the investigations. If NATO wanted a "false flag" to go, that was giftwrapped. Which again should tell you something.
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@Pattonstankdivision I'll explain so you can understand, NATO troops are on the ground, in the form of "mercenaries", the fancy equipment donated by NATO is operated by these "volunteers", the Russians are destroying this equipment as it enters the battlefield..
No they are not,no Nato troops are on the ground in Ukraine
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