Ireland running out of accommodation for Ukrainian refugees due to surge in non-Ukrainian refugees?

The counter strategy here is the tried and tested one. Discredit all those protesting as being far right easily led morons. Led by by the nose by extremists. We've seen it in all the papers today.

If you are protesting a phantom rapist or turning up at a school because racist Helen saw some cleaners you are probably at best dangerously stupid. If you are encouraging the burning down of buildings because of hearsay on Whatsapp, then you are stupid a fúckwit. They are just facts.

That's not not medias fault or counter strategy, that's easily led morons who lack the ability of critical thought or because it suits their racist outlook.

When these same people are cheering on the feral scum that organise and speak at these "protests", I'm sorry they no longer deserve the benefit of the doubt.

The problem is that the migration crisis feeds pressure into all of the other crises you mention as being more important. Say housing for example: State is not building enough houses but continues to accommodate all that turn up. It's even directly building houses for them. It's not an argument against the individuals that arrive here, but government policy.

So it's not migration on its own, but that migration makes the other day to day problems worse.

There will be an upper ceiling for support for these kinds of arguments - there always is. I think the Independent today are reporting that 56% of those polled think the State has admitted too many refugees.

If this is where support peaks, then the government need to get ahead of it quickly. Given that they are facing a shortfall in beds, continued arrivals and are looking for every and any structure with a roof and heating, that seems unlikely.

Yes, but those concerns about the housing crisis and access to healthcare are being exacerbated by the current government policy on immigration. They are looking for school classrooms now for god's sake and the 180k expected this year will eventually have to be housed somewhere and many will have to access healthcare somewhere.

The latest Sunday independent poll on the matter says that 58% of the respondents think we've already taken in too many refugees and asylum seekers in comparison to 30% saying we haven't.

What Michael D's headlined quotes have to do with the poll I'm not sure, the results are in that article though.

The people you describe are some of the protesters, not all of them. Yes there are nutters, conspiracy theorists, racists and criminals in their ranks - but that is true of every movement.

Do you think that the water charges protests were a disgrace because of the communists and anti semites in the Irish far left that were involved the movement?

From the Irish independent poll, the largest proportion of those polled believe it is local opposition rather than far right agitation at the heart of the protests.

That's a couple of times you've slipped in "small crowds". Hugging yourself for comfort telling yourself repeatedly they are only small crowds and they are all "for roish" mindless "feral scum" or worse common as muck uneducated, unemployable (your words) Irish people complaining about the "Meedja" I think that's the term you used to attack working class peoples accents. It is displays of utter ignorance and disregard from people like you and our countries leaders for ordinary people that got Mr. Trump into power.

Yes there are Far Right agitators at these protest using it as an opportunity but there are many many more at home that do not show up at protests that are disgusted at how our government has handled this debacle. And many like myself are liberal minded people who voted for gay marriage, believe in equality, inclusion etc. and are a million miles away from the real far right not the watered down neoliberal version.

They were the only one who asked questions during covid, and about the only opposition party that didn't want to close the airports and have zero covid.

working class

Is grifting on bitchute work?

We didn't close the airports.

Over 3 million passengers used Dublin airport between March and December 2020.

Significantly down but by no means closed.

Tóibín actually wanted to stop international travel particularly at the start from Italy, something I fundamentally agreed with.

If things keep going on the same, out of control, trajectory and more political parties opposed to it get organised, I wouldn’t be surprised to see them gain in the next local elections.

You have to remember that voting is done in private. The poll today was private and the result speaks for itself. Many, many people are not speaking out publicly due to the fact that some big mouth, without proper reason, starts screaming“racist bigot” at them.

You are right we didn't. The Soc Dems would have

Local elections less than a year and a half away. Do you think it is possible for such parties to get up and running in time?

That's fair enough, but one imagines that people are much more likely to be directly impacted by things like the housing crisis and the hospital waiting lists (or to have close relatives and friends who are). The whole refugee thing seems a good bit more abstract and remote from people's lives, given that around 13,000 non-Ukrainian asylum seekers entered the country last year.

I assume the poll is done by ringing people up and I'm sure some percentage of people (I imagine a fair amount who just said they didn't know or were undecided on things) would feel judged if they told a pollster there are too many asylum seekers in the country. The ballot box is truely private though, thats when you really get peoples unashamed opinions

I don't think parties will have time to get up and running at a national level but I would say that we will see a load more independents elected especially in areas that have taken a lot of asylum seekers/ukranians