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Club Championships 2022/23

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,905 ✭✭✭54and56


    There ya go again @FrancieBrady, just making stuff up to suit your prejudice - "As I said, the reason the media took this 'source' on board is that it was probably a threat". You just can't help yourself can you? No actual evidence or validation of any sort that Crokes even considered at any level of authority (team, management team or executive) not fulfilling a replay if ordered to do so never mind used it as a threat of some sort but that doesn't stop you asserting they did and that they used it as a threat.

    Maybe Crokes will decide not to fulfil the replay who knows but until they come out and state their position why do you feel the need to perpetuate unsubstantiated clickbait?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,470 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Lookit…. Let’s hope teams learn lessons from this…. when flooding the field with subs to break up momentum just make sure you get it right.

    Then all this fcukkery would never have happened.

    Its that simple and Crokes learned the hard way.. they won’t do it again this poster would opine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,298 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,470 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    In the last few seconds of a tight game it is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,617 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    It is my opinion just as you have yours.

    It's classic stuff really. Put the story out there to let the ruling body know what they are getting into.

    You believe what you want...who cares?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,905 ✭✭✭54and56


    When did Crokes tell you they wouldn't play the replay as they haven't told anyone else that I'm aware of? Are you the anonomous source @FrancieBrady relies on or perhaps the head of the CCCC by any chance?

    Love the transfer deadline day quip!

    so-salty.gif




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,445 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,795 ✭✭✭Big Pussy Bonpensiero


    My main takeway from this whole situation is just how incompetent the GAA is as an organisation.

    If the final is eventually replayed, it will have zero credibility. This championship was always tainted as a result of the 16th man debacle, but a replay adds a whole new layer of unnecessary controversy, and completely undoes nearly 60 mins of legitimate play. I actually felt that of the 3 punishments, a replay was easily the worst option all round.

    I have no horse in this race, but if I were Crokes man I'd be feeling very salty about the whole situation. That being said, it feels like the controversy is only beginning. The appeals process is bound to get messy unless Crokes accept the replay, and it'll get a lot messier if they flat out refuse to play in it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,309 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,781 ✭✭✭✭Green&Red


    Was the word around the media that Crokes "have no interest in a replay"?

    That line has been brought up a few times so I doubt it's something they came up with themselves



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,470 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Lookit….. at last a bit of sense has emerged on this from Liam O’ Neil X GAA Árd Stiurihore… the head honcho from the past.

    Liam said it as it is, like I have been saying since this issue arose.

    Basically non adherence to the rules of the game and poor support for those who do.

    What he said I’ll paraphrase “Out in the world when organisations get rules to events, those affected will say “How can we adhere to these rules” In Ireland we say “How do we get around these rules”

    Never was a truer word spoken and we should congratulate the boy for being so honest.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 584 ✭✭✭1373


    My take from this, the GAA eventually got it right ( could have kicked Crokes out of championship) , a replay is not an unnecessary controversy and you can't ignore the Last minute of a game because the first 60 were legitimate play



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭Grats


    Why is it so difficult for some posters and media people to accept that the process for objections and appeals takes time? Rather than sneer at the GAA for allowing time to all parties perhaps they should commend them for their democratic system. Most of us know the process at this stage so let that process happen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,699 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    One possible option for a replay date might be 18th March - move the Dublin Meath match to the 19th, as it's a local derby, you wouldn't be inconveniencing too many



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 251 ✭✭Bsharp


    Both Crokes and Glen getting shafted by poor officiating. Crokes now, Glen on the day.

    The only 'fair' outcome is to replay the 45 with 30seconds on the clock.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭tanko


    Thats a brilliant idea, i can’t believe they didn’t think of that. Can you point to the GAA rule book where this is a stated possibility?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,673 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    No it isnt. Replaying just one incident isnt right. How often would just an incident be replayed. the game wasnt finished and where in the rules is it stated you can replay just a specific time period of a game. Its either result as it stood, replay the game in full or award the game to glen



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,298 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    I heard the interview, and his response to what should be done when a mistake happens seems to be that mistakes should not happen. He said that there seems to be a recent trend where referees are favouring the "big" teams. I will have to listen back when it goes online to confirm I heard him correctly.

    Referees should be up in arms about this, and I would support them in refusing to referee the replay. Overall the interview was generalisations like you quoted, and added nothing to the issue. Ireland does very well in the measures of corruption internationally, and him denigrating the whole population like that is a disgrace. (This was in the sports news after 5.30 pm 31 January RTE Radio 1).

    https://www.joe.ie/news/ireland-corruption-index-766354

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 251 ✭✭Bsharp


    No problem, Glen and Crokes can turn up with a sportmen agreement to keep it scoreless until 30 secs left whereby Crokes knock it out for a 45. Replay the final 30 secs competitively. Complete madness, but at least it's fair to keep the virtuous amongst us happy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 54,777 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Can we now also have a replay of the 2010 Leinster Senior Football Final. Disallow Sheridan's 'try' and replay the match.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,617 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 54,777 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,309 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    If he thinks the big teams get all the calls he clearly hasn't watched Dublin over the past couple of years 🤣

    On a more serious note, if at any time during a game a team has 16 on the pitch (even if they are running off and only have one foot in play) then the opposition can rightly appeal and should be given a replay. This requires a change in the process whereby a player can only enter the field once another has left.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,673 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    I would be very surprised if either set of players would refuse to play. They wouldnt gain anything from doing so and would lose their chance at an all ireland title which none of the players have and bar a tiny number of clubs/players not many get to multiple club finals

    The ref should be assisted with time management for the biggest/higher level games but timekeeping shouldnt be removed from the ref.

    I think the clock in ladies football only operates in the biggest venues in latter stages. otherwise its the ref and if they have linesmen. Just like any other sport and technology.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,837 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Didn't expect a replay too be the outcome

    Maybe the replay taking place in August before the start of the 2023/24 season. Both clubs will be back training with full squads etc

    Tis a mess of a situation tbh and feel for everyone involved. One little thing could of prevented all this



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,905 ✭✭✭54and56


    Yes they came up with it themselves as all they could quote were anonymous "sources" but that's enough for some with an agenda / bias / chip on their shoulder who don't care about the legitimacy of clickbait articles to repeat and perpetuate Chinese whisper style until casual observers hear it repeated / said /written a number of times and it becomes accepted wisdom.

    It's more a reflection of how prejudiced and lazy we've become as a society that establishing and validating the truth is no longer a requirement before baseless stories become accepted narrative.

    It's Big Super Club Crokes on the receiving end this week but I'm sure they couldn't care less what a bunch of keyboard warriors say about them. What's more concerning is that this method of planting baseless stories in the knowledge the gullible and lazy will carry them forward and can be exploited for far more nefarious reasons but that's a topic for another discussion thread.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,905 ✭✭✭54and56


    Don't one or two of the Crokes lads (Rory O'Carroll?) already have an All Ireland from the 2009 winning team?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,037 ✭✭✭YabaDabaDooley


    Was listening to Off The Ball tonight where it's being hosted by Michael Verney and he was talking to Declan Bogue i think and he said he can see Crokes dragging it out and eventually it will not be played again. Time will tell i guess.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,319 ✭✭✭theoneeyedman


    Probably what will happen.

    Strip them of it I'd say and leave the cup blank for the year - fitting legacy to poor officiating and the chance it culture in our games of present.

    It's some fvxk up though, and who'd have thought that in successive years Crokes could have lost two All Ireland finals given that they led both games in injury time - I bet there are still some Dubs that will laugh at Mayo lads for losing All Irelands, but these guys are bringing it to a whole new level!!!!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,673 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    If there is to be a replay it will be played in the coming weeks. Waiting for 8 months would be pathetic. what is the little thing in your view which would of prevented this?



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