Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 5/1/24*

It’s time for a radical overhaul of the asylum system in Ireland, and frankly across the broader EU. Whilst zero asylum is unlikely, it should be re-framed as ‘minimal’. Some initial policies include:

1. Application is not entertained if you destroy your documentation having previously boarded a flight.
2. Cross an EU border in an irregular manner and you’re immediately returned to the third party country from which you entered.
3. Your application will be heard within three months with zero appeals. If rejected, you either self-deport or you will be forcibly removed.
4. Commit a crime of any nature whilst waiting on adjudication of your claim and you shall be forcibly removed.
5. If you’ve submitted an asylum claim in another EU member state, you will be returned there for processing.
6. Accommodation provided whilst waiting on adjudication of your application will be basic, dormitory style. Your basic nutritional and medical needs will be met. You do not have access to education or the labor market.

Some initial thinking to achieve the minimal asylum target. Longer term, the EU should look at establishing safe zones in North Africa and the Middle East.

Asylum claims are processed from there and only those claims submitted from these newly established locales shall be entertained. Those who prove to have a legitimate claim are distributed across the EU block in an equitable manner.

How many new arrivals became homeless last night? How many more tonight...the public are in for a shock in the next few weeks. The scale of this crisis will become very visible on the streets in a way it has never been up until now.

Exactly if each officer identifies and deport only 5 a year, they have probably paid their own wages

We do, but first and foremost we should be creating conditions that keep our youth here, as there's no point trying to create a baby boom, when they'll just have to leave the nation eventually because there's nothing here for them.

Leave

Leave the nation to go where?

Conditions are better here than most places.

Are you serious? You clearly don't know how many young people are leaving Ireland at the minute. In my own family anyway, at least half of my younger cousins have left the nation in the last few months. How in the world can our conditions be good, when one of the most important things, renting/buying, is turning into a luxury and not a norm. Nothing else matters when you can't even get near to one of the most basic necessities.

True, but those who wash up on our shores, lodging spurious asylum claims are culpable. A message needs to be sent far-and-wide, that Ireland is not a welcoming place for those who intend to subvert the asylum process.

History will judge Roderick O'Gorman and his infamous 'come hither' tweets extremely harshly. A correction is inevitable as more pragmatism enters the discourse around asylum seeking.

We are getting somewhere that you admit it is true.

Agreed. It's great to see you acknowledge that a significant % of asylum claims are spurious. Could this finally be a damascene moment?

Totally agree. No more so in given Croke Park over for Eid. A festival for a sexist backwards religion in our national stadium is proclaimed as progressive and a sign of how great we are.

And yes I am aware Catholicism isn't great

Mainly Australia and the UK. Whatever about general cost of living stuff, we're literally one of the worst nations in the world at the minute when it comes to housing.

This lack of public consultation on immigration policy is what will really cause problems down the line. I urge all to write to / contact your local public representatives and express concern. I've done so and strongly recommended that the state engages with citizens to explain the pros and cons of immigration strategy and that this should be followed by a public vote. Otherwise we are playing with fire and it's going to get hot.

The harsh realities of today's Ireland has landed us into emigration all over again in case you hadn't noticed

More Irish people have returned to Ireland than have left in the last recorded period.

It's not really a harsh reality at all is it? Irish people are leaving because they want to and coming back because they can, this wasn't always the case in the period you yearn for, which again was absolutely horrific.