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Solar PV Hints, Tips & Troubleshooting

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,743 ✭✭✭yankinlk


    I think its too bad u didnt just rename the SSID in the new router - it would have been seemless.

    But since you are down that road now - you might have delete the plant in the app and setup again. Sounds drastic but i recon its the only fix. I waited to reply hoping someone else would come up wiht an easier workaround - but i think that will be the only option now.

    Maybe BEFORE you do this - rename the SSID to something uniqu to your house - and everytime you chnage router in future that will be all you have to do.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,180 ✭✭✭championc


    It might be Auto, but is there a drop-down to select anything else ? Do you need to select an Advanced or Expert menu to change stuff outside the norm ?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,376 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    Thanks - managed to get the data logger board out (eventually) - it's a bit different looking than the video and there is no reset button or at least none that I can see but I was able to unplug the board and plug it back in again - still not connecting unfortunately.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,376 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    Other than 'Auto', the drop down has 'WANoE Only' and 'DSL Only'



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,376 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    Ok but to set it up again. Is it as per the video below?


    Do I lose all my previous data?




  • Registered Users Posts: 6,180 ✭✭✭championc


    That's not in the WiFi menu. You are absolutely looking in the wrong place

    What type / model router do you have ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭con747


    You need to be in this menu.

    Don't expect anything from life, just be grateful to be alive.



  • Registered Users Posts: 430 ✭✭Geeyfds53573


    Which data logger do you have? Post picture. The reset buttons are small but you will need to reset it by physically pushing a button on the board might be half way down instead of at the bottom



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,376 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    It is a Sky Fibre Broadband router.

    Just to explain the background;

    When we got the solar system installed, about a year ago, we had Virgin Media and we were running it through a TP Link router.

    A couple of months ago, we switched from Virgin Media to Sky. When you put the Sky unit through the TP Link router you cannot turn off the Sky signal like you could with the Virgin Media unit. So there was 2 wi-fi signals in the house, the Sky one and the TP link one. So half the stuff in the house was connecting to the TP link signal and half was connecting to the Sky signal - this was awkward as you had to keep switching wifi to control stuff like Hue/Sonos/Roomba on you phone/tablet.

    Anyway, last weekend we removed the TP link router and now just have the Sky box providing the wifi - Everything has connected up fine except the Solis Data Logger.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,376 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    Ah cool - it's looks exactly like that picture you posted with the button half way up - so I've reset it there now.

    Unfortunately it's still not connecting up for me. It's vey annoying, the data logger is broadcasting a signal but it won't connect to my wifi.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,192 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    To remove issues like this I disabled all router WiFi functionality and put in a separate mesh WiFi in the house. Now it doesn't matter who the broadband provider is because the mesh is constant



  • Registered Users Posts: 430 ✭✭Geeyfds53573


    Press and held it for a few seconds until it changes colour? red to green ( I think )then and only then is it reset - if not the video says contact solis if a reset doesn’t fix it



  • Moderators Posts: 12,379 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    Anyone else have their Solis cloud app showing "self use" as zero all the time, but "battery charging" seems to be what my generation + battery charging is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,376 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    Yeah - it definitely reset.

    I have emailed Solis - I might try and delete the plant info as per a pervious suggestion and see if that works.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,721 ✭✭✭Balmed Out


    My app hasn't had data recently so I unscrewed the data logger and put back on again planning on redoing the network setup. While all three led's had been on after putting it back only the power was on. I took it off and on again but same story. I thought maybe I didn't have it tight enough so tightened it but no joy however I discovered I had over-tightened the section on the data logger itself of the grey stick and its black head. I can still twist the connection to the inverter but not the data logger and so cant remove.

    Is brute force the best option or is there a knack?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭silver_sky


    Opened a ticket back in October for a longstanding issue with my Solis inverter. No response in months although around new year-ish it was finally assigned. I checked back today and the fecking thing was closed 2 weeks ago. No email alert on it, so I filled in the satisfaction survey that popped up and that seemed to have got their attention 😂



  • Registered Users Posts: 40 saccaromyces


    Hi all, haven't been on since panel fitting, was waiting for first elec bill to see how things were going. Hope its ok to post here, if you need to move thats ok. Anyway,

    At first glance bill looks ok €172. But add €200 gov grant plus €50 from EI. Plus micro gen total €111. Thats a wopping €533. I never had a bill like this. They also told me my kwh has gone from 865 for last year to 1106 this year, I thought the panels would reduce my kwh usage or am I missing something. It appears to me my bill has gone up instead of down. Can someone help explain this or advise.



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 6,280 Mod ✭✭✭✭graememk


    Not really for the quotes thread, @Jonathan could you move this to somewhere more appropriate (maybe troubleshooting?)

    But I'll continue.

    First things first,couple of questions

    what do you have?

    Have you any statistics from your solar?

    Are you on a smart meter? Are the readings accurate, was last year's reading accurate. Did you just use more power this year?

    How long have you had it installed?

    Moving on from that the price per kWh has at least doubled on last year.

    If you look at the monthly thread, you'll see for Dec/Jan the output is only 100 or so kwh per month, if you were able to use it all, your kwh for the bill would actually have been maybe 1300ish.

    Also it looks like the microgen payment was backdated a bit too, if you didn't have solar you wouldn't have had that payment,

    On a deemed export on a ,6kw inverter its roughly a euro a day.



  • Administrators Posts: 392 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭System


    This discussion was created from comments split from: Domestic Solar PV Quotes 2022 - No PM requests - See Mod note post #1.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,482 ✭✭✭DC999


    Adding to what’s above, you pay per kWh. Is that for a 2 month billing period? So if you used 1106 in the 2 month billing period, that’s €475 just for units (excluding vat and standing charges) if you’re paying 43c (inc vat) per kWh. That’s around the rate for people renewing now for 24hr meters on Bonkers.ie. So while it’s a terrifying cost, it’s correct based on usage.

    Ignore all else and check first what kWh’s you used. Then you can start to work out why that’s increasing (if it has). When your provider said it was ‘865 units last year’ (which is about 250 lower than the other figure you mention), do they mean the last billing period (which covered Christmas too, so we use a lot of power if lights are on 24x7, guests over, heating cranked up, Dec was Baltic….). Or was that 865 units those same months the previous year? Even the pumps moving water around our rads for our oil / gas boilers use a low of watts. So if your gas heating was on a lot, it’s using some electricity for the pump and boiler itself (just not for the heating part of course).

    Are those figure actual readings, or estimated?

    All our electricity costs have doubled. But you need to see are you also using more. Then why that is.

    As a comparison, in the last 2 months we’ve used 1600kWh. 600 for the house and we’re low usage (but excludes cooking). 600 is electric heaters in parts of the house (gas heating covers other parts). 400 for our EV.

    What’s changed electricity consumption wise for summer into autumn V winter? Tumble dryers cost €1 an hour, or more if paying 40c per kWh. Are you heating with electricity (rads or hot water in immersion)… Electric rads if left unchecked will use a huge amount per day. Did you get an EV.

    What is your heating system? Do you like rooms like a sauna is using electric heating in places? And, and…

    You should also look at moving to another tariff possibly. But that’s after you find our what’s going wrong (if anything). 



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,180 ✭✭✭championc


    Analyse your data.

    A simple thing - an installer installed my friends Eddi clamp the wrong was around. This meant that it saw export when in fact he was importing, which in turn would turn the Eddi on and then cause more import as it tried to draw that amount, and around and around it could have gone.

    Thankfully, he asked me on day 2 of his system



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,192 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    It's amazing how many times an incorrect CT clamp is put in place by installers, I mean it has an arrow on it and if they don't know which way to point it they shouldn't be installing



  • Registered Users Posts: 40 saccaromyces


    Ok thank everybody first of all. I have 6.6kw panels. 6kwh sofar inverter, 2 x2.4 dyness batteries. In since 25.11.22. Billing period from then until 31.1.23. Smart metre. Same period last year. 865 units. This year 1106.

    Yes I understand prices have gone up but this about the amount of units, I've never used that. Heating is oil as is hot water, so nothing extra on than last year, and no panels last year, so even as little production that I'm getting from panels, I'm using more unit than when I had no panels....no ev here, maybe the panels are burning more electricity than what they produce....

    Championc, how to analyse, my concern is the more the panel produce power, the more my consumption, so I'm think something not set up correct

    This is my reading today.



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 6,280 Mod ✭✭✭✭graememk


    Just to be clear, panels dont use any electric, they only generate.

    Generally the inverters run from solar or batteries, so they don't consume directly from the grid.

    Your using the power somewhere, but was last years reading estimated or actual readings, for both start and finish

    Can you share a screenshot for December?

    Your generation numbers for December/January are good, 376 generated, 180 exported.

    Do you have an eddi or anything like that?

    Are the batteries charging at night or anything like that?

    Will the app, show you graphs for today showing consumption, solar, battery use and stuff like that



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,180 ✭✭✭championc


    You could be charging the battery and immediately discharging it, every night. That would be wasting 5kWh every day.

    If you have a Solid inverter, have you Discharge set to Yes ??? It should be OFF



  • Registered Users Posts: 40 saccaromyces


    Last year was a reading. No eddie have termo panels for last 15 years for hot water. Just switched to night saver and am charging batteries between 2 and 4 am. For about a week now. Discharging from 4to9pm. But not sure about the discharging to be honest. As the graph swows releaingcharge earlier. I have 6kwh sofar inverter.

    The gap is where we lost intwrnet over Christmas. Thanks lad appreciate your time.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,180 ✭✭✭championc


    Yep. Something very odd. Your consumption is totally in proportion to your generation. I would say that this is almost impossible.

    I would say that most people consumption would be fairly level from day to day, except maybe for EV charging.

    Sorry, I don't understand the 24hr graph



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,743 ✭✭✭yankinlk


    "discharging from 4 to 9pm" Do you mean you are telling the battery to discharge during those times? Be careful - if you set that up in a solis inverter you are just dumping your battery to the grid - not actually using the energy in the house load. Maybe your inverter is different.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,180 ✭✭✭championc


    09:00 - 14:00 looks like exporting to me, and just dumping out 10kWh total (which interestingly is the difference daily between your blue and red stripes !!!



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  • Registered Users Posts: 533 ✭✭✭The devils


    Maybe send a pic of your invertor screen set up/discharge times etc it looks like your telling your invertor to dump your power even if your using it..



  • Registered Users Posts: 40 saccaromyces


    Isn't this getting very interesting, heres a pic of charge and discharge.

    Maybe too much info on 24 hr graph, sorry.

    Try this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,743 ✭✭✭yankinlk


    Can you disable the discharge times? They should not be set. That setting is only used if you are offered a very high FIT rate... It's not going to benefit you in Ireland.



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 6,280 Mod ✭✭✭✭graememk


    You have a sofar inverter right?

    What mode is it set to?

    (I have a me3000, settings, code is 0715, and scroll down to the work mode set on the second page)

    Time of use might be set, and set to discharge.

    Are you on any smart plans?



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 6,280 Mod ✭✭✭✭graememk


    And while your there, look at the screen, and see what it says, ie how much the house is using /coming from solar/battery



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,180 ✭✭✭championc


    If Solis, give a photo of the discharge settings screen

    If So far, what Mode are you running (should be Auto)

    If another, post a pic of the charging / discharging settings

    We know your settings are fooked up. We cannot point you to where to look if we are guessing what inverter you have.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭con747


    They say they have "I have 6.6kw panels. 6kwh sofar inverter, 2 x2.4 dyness batteries" in post #3675

    Don't expect anything from life, just be grateful to be alive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 557 ✭✭✭Taxburden carrier


    Esb networks are working in my neighbourhood next week and the power will be off for a while.

    This is the first outage for my system.

    Does anyone know if this will mean for me? . Will I need to reset Solis timers for night charging etc or will everything just power back up as it was?

    Thanks in advance 🙂



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,180 ✭✭✭championc




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  • Registered Users Posts: 533 ✭✭✭The devils


    Guys tried installing home assistant..

    Vitual box with Hass..

    Windows 10 machine etc..can't seem to get virtual box to open...keeps failing.

    Would anybody have a step by step guide - I've tried the you tube one (3mins to get home assistant on pc) however as I said virtual box will not open.

    Anyhelo would be appreciated



  • Registered Users Posts: 40 saccaromyces


    Sorry for delay in coming back, was at work and needed to get into attic. Interested in your opinion on graphs



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,743 ✭✭✭yankinlk


    look ok to me, but cant tell from the graph when the battery is discharing during the day - only a total for the day. Ideally my battery covers the house load until its empty - so in my graph the load and battery discharge match up. if you see battery discharging when there is no house load - then you are dumping to grid. (you might get paid for it if you have a smart meter and a FIT agreement - but its always better to "self-consume" during daytime peak rates)

    did you check to see if you are setting "discharge times" or not?



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,180 ✭✭✭championc


    Can you keep things consistent, and post the Energy Charged and Discharged graph covering 03/02

    You previously posted a graph which appeared to indicate massive discharging from around 09:00 to 14:00. So what have you changed settings wise ?



  • Registered Users Posts: 40 saccaromyces


    Tried to remove discharge but wouldn't let me, jept going back to origional setting, so extended out from 9am to 9pm. But doesn't seem to be discharging at all.

    Above is the only settings I've changed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭con747


    Post some pictures of the inverter screen where the charge and discharge settings are set, not the app screen shots.

    Don't expect anything from life, just be grateful to be alive.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,009 ✭✭✭jkforde


    are you able to access the inverter screen (on the inverter itself, not the app) where you are able to set charging and discharging times? if yes, take a photo of those settings with your phone and post it here.

    Post edited by jkforde on

    🌦️ 6.7kwp, 45°, SSW, mid-Galway 🌦️

    "Since I no longer expect anything from mankind except madness, meanness, and mendacity; egotism, cowardice, and self-delusion, I have stopped being a misanthrope." Irving Layton



  • Registered Users Posts: 533 ✭✭✭The devils


    Was thinking of putting some panels on the picture attached - any suggestions welcome.

    Shed 5 x 5

    Slope- 30 degrees

    Time taken 8.25 am



  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 8,214 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jonathan


    South facing? Could be a job for microinverters or a small 1-2kW inverter. Go for it!



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,180 ✭✭✭championc


    Ok, we are in one sense asking for the wrong thing here

    It's clear now that Discharge is FORCED Discharge rather than natural discharge.

    Obviously, for whatever reason, you don't want to post the settings screen on the inverter itsel



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