Paying tax + charges on items sent by post (which we already owned)

osarusan · 25-01-2023 02:43PM #1

Hi all,

hoping you can let me know if this sounds usual or unusual to you.

my Daughter recently spent time in Japan - a few months - and when she was coming home, she packed some stuff in a box and posted it via a Japanese courier company called Kuroneko, and it as delivered in Ireland by UPS. In the box is stuff she already owned, nothing new.

She paid for postage/delivery in Japan. Still, Kuroneko said she'd need to pay tax on it in Ireland. And indeed, when it was delivered today,there's €20 in 'charges and €29 in 'tax'.

I'm surprised at this - paying vague 'charges' and paying tax on stuff she already owned, but maybe it's standard these days.

Can anybody else comment if this is just standard stuff?

Del2005 · 25-01-2023 02:57PM

She didn't spend enough time in Japan to become resident so she has to pay taxes on anything she imports.

osarusan · 27-01-2023 02:20PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120155897#Comment_120155897

She didn't buy them in Japan - she took them from Ireland.

Do you mean that if a person leaves Ireland goes abroad with a suitcase full of, say, clothes and books that were purchased in Ireland, and then, while abroad, puts some of those those books in a box and sends them back to Ireland, they will still have to pay import duty on them?

That person is considered to be importing those books? Even though they were purchased in Ireland and effectively export from Ireland in a suitcase?

eusap · 27-01-2023 02:37PM

Wonder what happens when people pack up containers to Australia and then come back again?

whiterebel · 27-01-2023 02:43PM

The best way for that not to happen was to take an inventory on the way out, and get it stamped by customs on departure. Then present it on departure from Japan and arrival back to Ireland as personal effects.

Presumably that went out in luggage, so they should come back in luggage. As it is, it looks like they are shipping goods into Ireland without paperwork. If that worked, everyone would do it.

osarusan · 27-01-2023 03:22PM

So unless it can be proven otherwise, everything shipped in that way will be assumed to have been purchased in that country and liable for tax?

I can see how it has to work like that, but it's a pain to be paying import tax on stuff she bought in Ireland.

Del2005 · 27-01-2023 07:47PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120165207#Comment_120165207

If she can prove she bought them in Ireland, or the EU, then there's no taxes due. If she can't then there's tax due.

walterking · 28-01-2023 05:42PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120165602#Comment_120165602

Yes and that's the way it works worldwide. Exact same if you sent stuff from here to Japan, you would be liable for taxes there. Or if you were sending from japan to Australia, or Japan to USA

In a way it shows a massive benefit of the EU where no paperwork or charges are added

Paying tax + charges on items sent by post (which we already owned)

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