Reseeding

Reggie. · 09-04-2021 12:34PM

On another note I'm trying to talk these lads back into the ground before tonight's frost

DJ98 · 24-04-2021 07:06AM

Would it be too late to reseed a field around the end of May?

Bass Reeves · 24-04-2021 08:32AM

DJ98 wrote: »

Would it be too late to reseed a field around the end of May?

Lads have done it. However there is a huge risk that you might not get rainfall for a while. Have seen it done. However you usually cannot spray the weeds at seedling stage as there seeds that are buried in a few mm of soil geminate way faster than grass seed on top of ground. When you spray later you will probably have to kill any clover so I would not bother with it in the sward

I be very reluctant to do it if there was a lot of docks, thistles or neetles in the old sward. I seen a fella do it a few year back earlier in May and he got caught line that. He was lucky he had very few perineural weeds just annuals. He kept them grazed down and grass came away in July

Mooooo · 24-04-2021 09:52AM

Depends what part of country you're in, east would be very risky, west or higher rainfall areas less so. Heavy ground can work well as well

Sugarbowl · 06-05-2021 10:21PM

Novice here on reseeding - Looking to do a fix-up job on a field here ourselves - it’s would be hilly - large exposed rocks and grass mixed in around it. About 4 acres. It has become neglected over the years with rushes and we’re looking to make it more efficient for grazing. What is the best route to take? Spray off the rushes first but what should I do after? Rotavating is an option? If possible we would like to do it ourselves... is there any one implement that breaks up the ground and leaves you with a prepared seed bed? We have lots of small areas of land that could be done if there was a possibility we could do it at a basic level.

dmakc · 24-01-2023 11:04AM

Haven't done a Spring reseed before - what are the timelines?

mr.stonewall · 24-01-2023 12:03PM

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Last year I went with reseed that was done undersown to barley. Set at mid April and cut in late July for silage. Got 2-3 grazing off it then. The grass had cover with the barley so very little to worry about with drying out. Serious strike on the clover and grass. Made some good silage and cattle are mad for it. Will I do it again, definitely yes

White Clover · 24-01-2023 12:39PM

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Did you pit that silage or chance it in bales?

mr.stonewall · 24-01-2023 12:44PM

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Pit

Jb1989 · 24-01-2023 12:51PM

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Done it here in bales twice . Bales were perfect. Had no poison down and still had no rats.

White Clover · 24-01-2023 12:54PM

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Did you have to spray it a couple of times while it was growing?

Bass Reeves · 24-01-2023 01:52PM

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You were lucky. I have even seen rays destroy put stuff. I did it a few times. I always put poison out around it and keep it topped up

Reggie. · 24-01-2023 06:19PM

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Well what I'm doing here for two dairy lads that are in a hurry for grass is ill hopefully spray off around end of Feb or early match depending on growth.

Disc as weather allows and hopefully be sowing early April once not frost on the cards

degetme · 24-01-2023 06:26PM

Planning on doing some paddocks in early May. Level ground. Index 4 for p and k and no lime required according to recent soil test. If it was burnt off for 10days and power harrowed and seed set with 1 pass and roll do I still need lime and p and k given iv no p allowance

Reggie. · 24-01-2023 07:05PM

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Still worth a bag of granlime per acre as the dying grass will turn the topsoil slightly acidic

I'd leave it a minimum of 14 days at least

Always a good idea to spread p and k as it helps root development.

I think your still allowed it outside your allowance once you designate the field for reseeding on your returns to the dept something similar to claiming the MMS allowance last year.

degetme · 24-01-2023 07:38PM

How did people get on with red clover silage?? Would you get 3 or 4 cuts for bales off it. Do you tedd red clover

Jb1989 · 24-01-2023 11:17PM

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No, no need with the arable silage. That's only with a tillage only crop I presume.

Jb1989 · 24-01-2023 11:18PM

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Would've been cats around the yard tho.

But absolutely no vermin damage on them 2 occasions.

davidk1394 · 25-01-2023 07:48AM

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I got 2 cuts of silage and zero grazed grass into cows during the dry period. I left it wilt for 24 hours and then baled it.

davidk1394 · 09-02-2023 10:24AM

Is it too early to go spraying off grass for reseeding? I've a few fields with red clover silage in them the last few years but it's time to reseed them with a grazing grass.

Tonynewholland · 09-02-2023 02:01PM

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If you have plenty leaf and on a warm day it should be fine

Reggie. · 09-02-2023 10:32PM

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May take longer to die but should still work

morphy87 · 10-02-2023 05:19PM

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Off topic but have you ever reseeded land that was totally neglected and cattle out wintered on it that never got lime, fertilizer or slurry and rushes starting to appear in it? If so how did it turn out? By the way you give great information here

Mooooo · 10-02-2023 06:42PM

If its got rushes sort drainage first. Soil test and go from there. Depending on how it'll be utilised then decide on what mix may suit your system. If its going to continue to be low input perhaps a multispecies sward might suit if the weed burden isn't too great or can be dealt with. Would be suitable for outwintering tho

Reggie. · 10-02-2023 11:57PM

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The rushes could have appeared due to compaction or a shallow wet spot. Did a field like that before.

Was ploughed and left to dry. Disced and powerharrowed.

It's now a silage field and flat as a snooker table. Most important the ploughman has to be good.

If going to be ploughed then soil testing is pointless as you'll be burying your topsoil and starting from scratch.

morphy87 · 11-02-2023 08:55AM

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Rushes only in parts of it,all the land bounding it have no rushes, would ploughing help with drainage or would you have to do drains?

morphy87 · 11-02-2023 09:03AM

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Why would the ploughing man be important?

if it was reseeded and looked after would there still be a chance of the rushes comming back?

Mooooo · 11-02-2023 11:03AM

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Round here anyway drainage is always an issue, is there a drain near the field? If not and rest of the ground is dry perhaps the outwintering has led to water retention and gave the rushes a start along with low pH. If that's the case ploughing and correcting pH may do.

Depends on the ground really. Could dig and a hole and see how it fills with water, would give an idea. Contractor or digger man local to the area may have an idea.

Reggie. · 11-02-2023 11:21AM

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If its ploughed only half assed then it can be a big job to level afterwards. Nearly more work added rather than saved.

Some lads shouldn't be let near a plough unfortunately

morphy87 · 11-02-2023 11:32AM

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This ground is very sheltered, never got lime Or slurry and hasn’t got fertilizer in 20 years if it ever got it and has cattle running over it every year for the past 20 years, so you would imagine if it was reseeded you would get a good response

no drains or land drains near the field, there is a big river a quarter of a mile from the land

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