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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Oh it's all the big multinationals fault 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    Conspiracy theories 101



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,012 ✭✭✭roosterman71


    Not 100% sure if yer being serious or joking. Anyway, in case yer being serious, NATO are a defensive organisation and NATO are not under attack. Therefore, NATO will stay well out of there and will support from the sidelines but no NATO boots will cross the border peacekeeping or otherwise



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 728 ✭✭✭20Wheel


    Why not swoop on in and save the day, close the skies. The means to do so are there.

    Putin is a dictator. Putin should face justice at the Hague. All good Russians should work to depose Putin. Russias war in Ukraine is illegal and morally wrong.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    Moldova's President Maia Sandu acknowledges that country needs to assess whether it can defend itself or whether it "should be part of a larger alliance


    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 728 ✭✭✭20Wheel


    Putin is a dictator. Putin should face justice at the Hague. All good Russians should work to depose Putin. Russias war in Ukraine is illegal and morally wrong.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,014 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Ah, but wait until she gets her 5 mins of fame on the Solovyov and Simonyan RT show. Her very own interpretation of Edvard Munch's The Scream.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,014 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Sure, and gratefully received too, but why not the leopard tanks? According to various discussions, these could vastly improve Ukraine's chances of an outright victory, thereby ending the war and all the suffering? If they have serious misgivings about supplying this tank, then Ok, I could under stand that, but they don't, they are making the supply of it conditional.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,005 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    The conflict has evolved. Multiple NATO countries have sent and are sending tanks. Germany isn't. Hence the issue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,005 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Because that's WW3. We can't implement a no-fly zone and can't put boots on the ground.

    So instead, countries have been supporting and arming Ukraine to help them defend themselves.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,014 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Each and every form of deviation from the official position has to be ruthlessly put down, there and then. If not what might it develop into? And its the "what might it develop into" is what terrifies Putin, because deep down he knows what he is doing is wrong.....he gambled and is losing, and the next few months will seal his fate, one way or another. Meanwhile, he can't have anyone showing any kind of sympathy to the victims of the Dnipro bombing and drawing public attention to it, especially within Russia itself. Imagine some one in Samara, where anti-war tensions are running high, with survivors of the Makiivka bombing refusing to return to Ukraine, and some one held a similar compassion for the victims of the Dnipro bombing.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 728 ✭✭✭20Wheel


    And a large number of those tanks are sent through an exchange program, exchanged for German Leopard tanks, organized by Germany. Essentially its Germany sending tanks, indirectly.  Ringtausch program.

    Why? Because it denies Putin the hype and optics of a German invasion propaganda campaign.

    Putin is a dictator. Putin should face justice at the Hague. All good Russians should work to depose Putin. Russias war in Ukraine is illegal and morally wrong.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 728 ✭✭✭20Wheel


    Nato can. But it chooses not to.

    Because.... see above post (# 77201). Propaganda hype and optics, potentially leading to WW3 (as you mention yourself).

    Simple.

    Putin is a dictator. Putin should face justice at the Hague. All good Russians should work to depose Putin. Russias war in Ukraine is illegal and morally wrong.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,005 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Right, how do you feel about UK, Poland, Czech Republic, France, Netherlands, Slovenia sending tanks to Ukraine?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 728 ✭✭✭20Wheel


    I feel that 35 of the Czech tanks are from the German exchange program I mentioned. Effectively its Germany donating Czech tanks (Along with a whole load of bmps). While wearing a Czechia shaped hat.

    France apparently haven't sent tanks at all, the nerds don't like to hear that. Its a reconnaissance vehicle.

    UK tanks haven't arrived. Because theres a gap between announcement and delivery, which is fine.

    But overall I feel its all good. Combined EU (and UK) resources are impressive indeed.

    Putin is a dictator. Putin should face justice at the Hague. All good Russians should work to depose Putin. Russias war in Ukraine is illegal and morally wrong.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 563 ✭✭✭Bitcoin


    Apache's last week, F16's today.

    The penny is finally starting to drop. Now just force the orc friends to release the Leopards and the orcs are toast.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 563 ✭✭✭Bitcoin


    120k dead orcs. another 360k wounded or captured.

    Ukraine are bleeding the orcs dry. The orc horde are doing to collapse very soon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    @20Wheel I feel that 35 of the Czech tanks are from the German exchange program I mentioned. Effectively its Germany donating Czech tanks (Along with a whole load of bmps). While wearing a Czechia shaped hat.


    You feel,

    Germany can't send /donate Czech tanks ,

    Keyword Czech tanks ,some countries said they could only send certain equipment if they had a replacement/s to cover what they send ,

    But that little situation led to where we are this week with Germany,oh everyone else has to send tanks their tanks before we decide to think about having a discussion about sending our tanks,

    But if that's the case why exactly are they blocking other countries from sending lepoard tanks exactly,

    At least when the time comes to rebuilding the Ukrainian military and Nato tank forces German tanks won't be a option worth investing in considering how they can't be used by anyone but themselves.

    Abrams, challengers and Korean black panthers will all be making sales pitches to Europen military forces



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 836 ✭✭✭junkyarddog


    It's now a patriotic war apparently.....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 728 ✭✭✭20Wheel


    Germany paid Czechia (with leopard tanks) to send 35 T72s.

    Its not that hard to understand. Ukraine wanted tanks. Germany fixed it so Ukraine would get tanks.

    Leopards went off Germanys books, Leopards went into Czechias books, T72s went off Czechias books and onto Ukraines books.

    35 T72s are in Ukraine because of Germany.

    Poland has been told they can send Leopards, if they just make the formal request.

    Putin is a dictator. Putin should face justice at the Hague. All good Russians should work to depose Putin. Russias war in Ukraine is illegal and morally wrong.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,380 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    I love how a war of expansion by the fascist / imperial state is being spun by him as Russia somehow being the "victims" of aggression in all this.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 563 ✭✭✭Bitcoin




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,052 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Senior US officials are advising Ukraine to hold off on launching a major offensive against Russian forces until the latest supply of US weaponry is in place and training has been provided, a senior Biden administration official has said.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-01-21/us-officials-advise-ukraine-to-wait-on-offensive-official-says/101879240

    They are also advising Ukraine to just let them 'win' Bakhmut and stop wasting resources on it, because once they are are trained on the Bradleys, they are just going to roll over them in a southern offensive and achieve a whole lot more. They didn't say that explicitly, that's me reading between the lines.

    There's more there about an ex Navy Seal dying bringing the toll of US citizens to 6.

    Pain fills the heart. Unspeakable sadness envelops the soul. Ukraine loses its best sons and daughters every day. Thank you for your important and worthy work for the benefit of Ukraine. You are forever in our hearts. Eternal memory!

    Volodymyr Zelenskyi

    Volodymyr Zelenskyi:

    I would like all of us to feel today how many lives, how many bright people are taken by wartime. I would like us all to honor their memory today…

    Bright memory to all those whose lives were taken away by the war! Bright memory to all those who gave their lives for Ukraine!

    We are doing everything to expel this war from our land.

    Glory to Ukraine!

    I think Zelensky surpassed Churchill a while ago. There has not been as great a leader of a country for at least 60 years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,128 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Bakhmut is seriously depleting the Ukrainian army.

    From what I’ve read over the last few weeks and this report I’m thinking a lot of information is being held back.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    No .

    The Czechs sent their old tanks and got 13 German tanks in return but they had to order a number of other's 30+ from Germany and then having to pay to upgrade the tanks 13 they were getting for sending their old tanks to Ukraine,

    Seems like a win /win for the Germans


    The tanks didn't go to Ukraine because of Germany, Germany did a deal that made them money.while ukraine got Soviet era tanks due to be decompressioned



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 563 ✭✭✭Bitcoin




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 877 ✭✭✭eoinbn


    Fantasy figures. That's 480k dead or wounded. Russia hasn't even sent in that amount.

    Also the post you were replying to is misleading. The US general did not agree with the Ukrainian figures - at least they don't agree that eliminated means dead. The US believes there are well over 100k Russian casualties - which could be dead or wounded.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 563 ✭✭✭Bitcoin


    🤣

    Yes, Russia is winning. Maybe Ukraine should just crawl to Putin and beg for surrender.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 728 ✭✭✭20Wheel


    So like ... an exchange or something? organized by Germany.

    Which results in 35 T72s on the ground in Ukraine.

    Why its almost like Germany bought Czech tanks and had them forwarded to Ukraine. 🤔

    Putin is a dictator. Putin should face justice at the Hague. All good Russians should work to depose Putin. Russias war in Ukraine is illegal and morally wrong.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,052 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    I have had another thought about Scholz not approving Leopard 2 tanks, apart from the possibility it's all a ruse; Could it simply be the excruciating embarrasment and humiliation of other countries being able to supply fully operational tanks, while Germany can't, because theirs are all inoperational because of decades of negligence and neglect? All this sudden talk of doing an audit of their tanks after Lambrecht blocked the same thing would seem to fit.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 563 ✭✭✭Bitcoin


    It really isn't fantasy.

    The real figures are much worse because the orcs are inveterate liars.

    Waves of orc meat against the Ukrainian guns. It's a total slaughter.



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