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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,060 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    That precision action added 25 to the days tally.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭gw80


    I couldn't listen to him,I tried watching one of his speeches on day,I nearly lost the will to live,what an absolute waffler.

    Say what you want about Hitler, at least he could get a crowd going.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,362 ✭✭✭Field east


    What would be the international response if Zalensky was assinated or was very seriously injured from a hit quad attack - but survived. Would that change the whole dynamic of the war? Eg would Putin then become a legit target for assignation. Ie tit for tat. And would other countries get more involved - directly /indirectly?



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,321 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    They're in it for the long haul, relying on quantity as quality. Historically that's very Russian. Screw up massively at first, learn from that and then just keep throwing bodies and machines at the problem. Their population is primed to follow that too, or at least their limits are much higher, in ways that are utterly alien to us in the West.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,362 ✭✭✭Field east


    I am not too sure. It was the solution in the past where quantity was quality. That was then BUT this is now. Will your typical Russian willingly go to the meat grinder for the sake of the motherland as was the case in the past. I expect that most Russians are much more aware of what’s going on, the hippo a y that’s out there , the level of corruption is much better understood, the level of poverty that’s there and can now be avoided by a fairer distribution of wealth All this new information is there THANKS to the internet/ mobile phone. Also a lot of Ru getting a lot of reports from the front. , etc, etc, etc.

    All Ru do not need a mobile to become aware of what’s really going on / what’s out there. Their friends, family , etc, will tell them.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,716 ✭✭✭storker


    And you wouldn't hear him playing jungle music at three in the morning.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Should be shared as widely as possible by our resident Russians in Ireland back to the motherland.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,391 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    I've seen some rumours that Putin could be planning to attack Lviv in the far west, coming through Belarus. Open up a new front so to speak, but it's all speculation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    That's exactly the point, Russian citizens are no technological fools, they have and use much the same digital technology as the rest of us. They may be able to force some into military units but that will getting exponentially harder.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,016 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Sure they know, at least the younger generation, but when they are motivated to do something about it, protest etc. Putin hits them, and hits them very hard. Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's Gulag Archipelago is alive and well. And was filling up nicely until Wagner started to conscript convicts, so plenty of room now for protesters. So far, there are little wisps, barely noticeable of steam escaping from the Putin war kettle, but as the heat increases, more steam will be generated. Question is what will it take to generate enough steam to blow the lid right off...? So far 116'000 deaths, and multiples of that injured, mobilization of 300'00 and now a planned additional mobilization of another 700'000 has not been enough to mobilize enough anti-war anti-Putin sentiment. It could be that Ukraine will have to fight Putin all the way back to the 1991 borders, hopefully not, but its possible.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,555 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    Those mobilised to date have mostly come from far flung rural areas, prisons etc. I suspect the Russian population's stomach for feeding their young men to the meat grinder is more likely to change (and the young men themselves are more likely to organise and resist) as the mobilisations have to start conscripting those from more developed urban areas like St Petersburg, Moscow etc.

    My mother's travelled fairly extensively in Russia and according to her (and others I've spoken to who've travelled around Russia), while those urban centres that tourists tend to visit are modern societies not too dissimilar to our own, once you get out into the rural hinterlands, it's like travelling back in time to rural Ireland of the 40s or 50s.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,321 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Oh they see the mobilisation, but the numbers dead? I mean we don't believe the Russians when they claim a similar number of Ukrainian casualities. Why should they believe the figures? And yes certainly many will be looking at western sources, but an awful lot especially beyond the main cities will be looking at RusskiTV. Hell there are enough eejits in the West that buy the Russian stuff, hook line and sinker while they've been born and bred in the democratic liberal West, with Western media of all kinds is all around them.

    Oh I still say Russia is doomed in her present form, it's just a question of how long that takes and what form it takes.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,016 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Yeah, but Hitler had Goebbels as his minister for propaganda, obviously Putins minister Surkov is not un the same class.....he would start avoiding high windows, or drinking cups of tea,,,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,016 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Sure, that's happening all right. None the less after what happened in Makiivka. where hundreds of Russian soldiers were gathered in a building which also served as an ammunition dump which and was hit by Ukrainian shelling, and many lost their lives ( exact figures unclear,) Most of these soldiers were from Samara, and for sure, they know the exact figure of their missing / dead, and I would not like to be the local mobilization officer there, when he has to round up more recruits.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 563 ✭✭✭Bitcoin


    We're approaching endgame here. putler can only go through so many waves of human meat before he runs out of fighting men.

    Most of the original orc invasion force was destroyed and now putler is rapidly burning through the 300k conscripted mobiks. He needs to raise a new force now so it will be ready in 1-2 months time when the rest of the 300k mobiks are dead or in hospital. The third batch of mobiks will be old men and kids and it will be the last. They will be slaughtered in even greater numbers than those that came before them.

    Very soon there is going to be a collapse on the Russian front and it will be like Kharkiv all over again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,016 ✭✭✭jmreire


    I hope that you are right. But there's still a lot of death and destruction left in Vladimir Putin and his murderous team.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,006 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe



    Awkward moment on Russian state TV as someone touches on the truth




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,698 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 563 ✭✭✭Bitcoin


    Using human wave attacks against Ukraine shows just how desperate a position putler and the orcs are in.

    It won't last long.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,415 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Potentially lobbing ballistic missiles.... Russia have already attacked Ukraine with over 200 ballistic missiles and none have been downed yet. Obviously Patriot systems can down them, but Russia have thousands of s300/400 missiles they can still launch in a ground attack config (once modified... I'm not sure how many have been modified so far)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,448 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    This claim from very pro Russian channels

    Lads on the Ukrainian subreddits say this source is very pro Russian but has been accurate in the past.

    Wonder will tomorrow be a formal declaration of war?


    Going to do some more digging.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,066 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Pity to see that he is a Social Democrat and not one of the smaller members, but that is what happens when you are smaller.

    While he is not an out and out Socialist he still has a history of being very soft on Russia, on Putin and on Russian crimes, how much of that was going along to get along in his party.

    If he was too Pro Ukraine he wouldn't have been picked, hopefully he is an improvement in general.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,066 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    You would expect it to be declared a war and full mobilization, war economy.


    All in .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,574 ✭✭✭rogber


    Isn't that the "dissenting voice" guy who occasionally pops up to give the illusion of free debate? He certainly hits the nail on the head in those comments but he's been there before and is a very quiet voice among the chorus of cheerleaders



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,546 ✭✭✭swiwi_


    You certainly don’t make me doubt my preconceived maybe bigotted notion that Aussies are inherently racist. Was genuinely shocked at some of the comments I heard when I lived for a while on the Sunshine Coast.

    i dont think you really have any idea about German, Austrian, Swiss culture which is completely different from Australian (and Irish). The way you express yourself on here would be considered extremely ill-mannered in Switzerland. Not everything is black and white it’s more nuanced. Swiss people don’t generally take unilateral absolute positions on things. There’s generally interminable discussion followed by a consensus where no-one really gets all their own way. Less time posting and more time acquiring some culture.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,016 ✭✭✭jmreire


    So Putin is to make a statement, and it's expected to be a declaration of war. For Ukraine, I can't see it making much difference,,,, they've been fighting a war since Feb 2022. So this is all for Putins home audience,,, he's starting to meet resistance and an official declaration of war will help him overcome it? The introduction of "special War Powers".?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,391 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Yes, I'm sure I read that declaration of war against Ukraine would give him a whole raft of new powers, including the ability to mobilise millions of ordinary Russian citizens if he felt like it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭zv2


    I wonder when people say this war will go on for years. Russia will reach a critical mass of losses and thereafter it is game over.

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭zv2


    Apparently those 600 were herded into the building to listen to Putin's speech.

    It looks like history is starting up again.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭zv2


    It looks like history is starting up again.



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