Ireland running out of accommodation for Ukrainian refugees due to surge in non-Ukrainian refugees?

Weird how Sinn Fein is getting mentioned so much on here when they’re not the ones in government dictating policy, no matter what their policies/views may be they have no bearing on the current status. Anyway I couldn’t care less just saying.

Joe O'Brien, the new Minister of State for Integration, said the Department of Justice is exploring options to allow Ukrainians to remain in Ireland for five years, after which they could apply for citizenship. 

However, O'Brien believes that a "significant proportion" of Ukrainians will decide that "Ireland is a better place for them" and seek to remain in the country after their temporary protection status expires next year. 

"If you have someone in the country with pretty much the full rights that Ukrainians have for two years plus, you will need to open a pathway for them to permanency," the Green Party TD told the Irish Times. 

"My understanding is that [the Department of] Justice are beginning to look at status options for people in the long term." 

O'Brien said a significant number of Ukrainian children will spend their formative years in Ireland and begin to see Ireland as home. 

"They’ll start beginning to see here as home, and families will start beginning to see here as home," he told the Irish Times. 

The Immigrant Council of Ireland has welcomed O'Brien's suggestion, stating that it will not be possible for some Ukrainian refugees to return home.

The Immigrant Council also said it would be a "huge challenge" to process every application to remain in Ireland after the temporary protection status comes to an end in March 2024, unless the Irish Government introduces a pathway to permanency beforehand. 

"You’ll end up with 70,000 becoming undocumented in the short term if they don’t have a scheme in place, and that’s not desirable from anyone’s point of view," Immigrant Council chief executive Brian Killoran told the Irish Times. 

O'Brien added that the Irish Government should plan for the same numbers of refugees from Ukraine and elsewhere in 2023 as arrived last year, adding that every county would have to accommodate modular building projects. 

Our population is smaller than it was during the Famine (!) If the famine had never happened, we'd probably have a population up and around 12 to 15m by now (judging by how other countries grew).

This idea that population growth is an aberration and something that needs to be stamped out is very much at the barmy end of the scale. Demographers reckon that the population of what is now the Republic will never go much beyond 6m - perhaps around 6.3m by 2050. That would certainly represent very strong growth for a European country, but given the size of the country and its natural resources (ability to produce food for example) and generally favourable weather, it is something that would be perfectly manageable.

It's actually depressing it's so predictable. It doesn't matter how many times it's pointed out they still go back to it when advocating for more and more people regardless of anything else. It's bizarre. What is the obsession with filling the country full of everybody from everywhere when the green lunatics are telling us we need to cut consumption and want restrictions on house building because it's bad for the environment etc.

Ah. So they are preparing the ground. They are beginning to go back on the idea that all of this was only temporary until the war was over. They are going to start throwing out passports like confetti.

"Backlash" by a few far right louts?

"You're not worth talking to" was a fine response I thought.

But sure how many of the far right “patriots” politicians are nationalists? When they talk about independence you can be sure they’re talking about from the eu and not reuniting the country. They’re in bed with all the ultra British nationalists who coincidently hate Ireland as well. Hilarious. They care more about Brussels than London ruling 6 of the counties on Ireland. Absolute dopey fruit loops the lot of them.

I'd love some transparency into where all our asylum seekers are housed at the moment

Is there any at all in certain parts of Dublin

The bond villain / leader of Labour won't open borders . Expect closed borders into her constituency

Well they won't be getting put in to the big empty Jury's Hotel in Ballsbridge for sure.

And if you want a compendium of Basil Fawlty level excuses for why it just wouldn't be possible, read this.

https://archive.ph/E2Gup

From far enough away it's actually comical.

tl:dr; While it is possible to convert deserted office blocks in to accommodation for these "refugees" it would be practically impossible to make a Hotel ready for them. Yep a Hotel.

Cllr Dermot Lacey said he did not consider this response acceptable.

“I find it very hard to believe it is not possible to bring this hotel back into use, given it was in use so recently. The GAA [and] other sporting organisations are pulling out all the stops to make their facilities available and given the embassy would be receptive to discussing the idea, this just seems like an excuse.”

Just imagine the embarrassment if you were involved in Chartered Land and you had to face friends in Ballsbridge after allowing this Hotel to be filled with refugees. Life wouldn't be worth living.

Ever since I grew up and I suppose since early 90s when they and PIRA refused to give up armed struggle I have detested them.

I have been life long FG voter.

I grew up watching Garrett battle haughey and catholic church so liked him and them.

But will not vote for FG under any circumstances at this stage.

FF were always shyters, Labour a bunch of eejits feathering their own nests but lambasting others.

And the greens, well I would gladly shove them head first into a compost heap. (could say something else but would be banned)

If SF immediately stated they would move to block the loopholes, kick out the chancers and the undocumented, rolling back citizenship amnesties, stopping any further Ukrainian refugees (we don't have the where withal anymore) and checking on adult male Ukrainians that have set up camp here, then I would give them a preference and leave the rest of the fookers to swing.

But but but ... I thought their homes were destroyed, their towns were all leveled, they would be shot?

I remember talking politics with a man. He told me he was voting SF at the next election. I asked why. He said; 'they'll get the foreigners out of Ireland.

Dribbling racists wouldn't be known for their mental abilities TBF.

You disagree with the "Ireland is full" guys then? I wouldn't say the population has jumped enormously in recent times btw - the big leap in numbers came between 2000 and 2008 when the Celtic Tiger was at its peak.

Do you think Sinn Fein are nationalists?

Apparently re unification of the island of Ireland is one of the 9 core aims of the NP.