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Tesla Model 3 - V3.0

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,881 ✭✭✭rx8


    Surely you can quote distance selling rules to recoup it, or transfer it to a brand new model. ??



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 498 ✭✭Gile_na_gile


    Most of the ads have not yet even readjusted to the Tesla reductions in used stock last December so it will take a while longer for them to be parked up before they lower the prices in line with 2023 new prices, assuming 3-4k depreciation per year.... I imagine they refresh their prices against their own market valuation tools monthly, informed by shared data on sales data, and then slowly bring them in line.

    I don't think an SR+ 2019 is worth more than 33-34k max these days, say with <50k km. Four years of depreciation on a €46,782 base price (2019, including white and black) and typically lots of mileage. We are roughly at that price minus €2000 again in white, €45660 for a 231 RWD in other colours except red. The Irish market is small and pricing is conservative.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,182 ✭✭✭sk8board


    The Irish base prices are cheaper than the UK now, if the recent R Symons vid is correct, which I’m sure it is. Guys like him would’ve spat out their cornflakes yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 604 ✭✭✭Foreign Sports


    Since boards search function is terrible, I'm unable to find the posts that has the details of what needs to be in the email quoting the relevant section of distance selling rules for the deposit refund.


    I know a few on here have successfully recovered their €250. Any help appreciated otherwise I may end up with 2 Teslas next month 😂

    Thanks



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,594 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    I was the one that started that email. And it’s been used since then.


    I’ll get it now.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 132 ✭✭Josieg


    I saw the price reductions yesterday and my first thought was I wonder if I should buy another! I have a 222 blue on white with the 19' wheels so you can imagine the difference in price between when I bought and today 😱.

    I decided to see what Tesla would offer me for trade in with 10k Kms on it now. €29,300 is the number I just received. That's some depreciation (>50%) in less than 4 months. I was offered 46k for trade in in December.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,594 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    ContactUK@tesla.com

    I am applying for a refund as the order page states "Non-refundable for order cancellations, except when statutory cancellation rights apply” such as distance selling legislation. 

    The purchase agreement was entered into by means of distance communication and I have a statutory right to cancellation with full refund. 

    Page 5 of the order agreement specified “Region Specific Provisions".

    Can you please process this refund.

    Regards,



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,919 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Fuk sake, that's not good and Tesla are/were not that off the ballpark with trade-ins of Teslas, I have my trade in awaiting valuation a week now, I know now why they didn't reply earlier in the week....

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 604 ✭✭✭Foreign Sports


    Many thanks @Gumbo, I think you are owed another pint now!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 604 ✭✭✭Foreign Sports


    Interestingly the model Y I originally ordered in late October has an estimated delivery of February 18th - March 6th while the model 3 I ordered yesterday has February 23rd - March 11.

    Assuming that these estimates are fairly accurate, they must all be arriving on the same boat.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 116 ✭✭Dasein




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 604 ✭✭✭Foreign Sports


    @Dasein , I seem to recall you had put a deposit on a 2021 black model 3.

    What are you thinking of doing now?

    A new 3, a new y? Rwd or LR?

    Great options to have at the moment!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 116 ✭✭Dasein


    Their used stock is still priced all wrong - they have a M3P up for €79,500 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 116 ✭✭Dasein


    Yep - I have just formally cancelled it.

    Not sure what to do now tbh, the whole thing is a bit crazy.

    I think model Y LR (I need the range) is the sweet spot for me but I'll probably wait a month or two to see what the next big reveal is - if they're going to bring back radar then I'd be happier to wait for that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭quenching


    Possibly a stupid question, I’m undecided between a Model 3 and a Model Y, if I order one of each and pay the €250 deposit I presume it’s refunded for whichever I cancel?


    Also, is there a spec comparison anywhere for the 2 cars? It’s hard to figure out what equipment is standard, I’m sure I saw the Y had Premium sound, heated rear seats and steering wheel on the RWD base model, but not on the 3. Is that true?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,441 ✭✭✭jhegarty


    Got my trade in estimate. Dec 2020 refresh SR+ with 20k km. Offer is € 27,200.00


    So good luck with that.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,594 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Model 3 and Model Y RWD are pretty much same spec.

    The only difference is the Y gets the premium interior which included additional ambient lights, sound system.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 604 ✭✭✭Foreign Sports


    Really hard to know what may happen in the next 6 to 9 months regarding pricing.

    They may have just reduced prices for all of the built up stock they have to clear (along with the uss debacle).

    Or maybe it's a more permanent thing to keep demand matching supply.

    I don't think any other brand could make such massive pricing reductions and still make a profit.

    The model Y RWD is a great example;

    - Up to Oct 22 - approx €65k

    - Oct 22 - Drop to €53k (including grant)

    - Jan 23 - Drop to €46.5k (including grant)

    Nearly a 20k drop in 4 months!!

    Anyone considering an ionic 5 / ev6 / id4 etc would be crazy not to consider Tesla now imo



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,919 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    I was actually thinking that, this could be a total clear out of all nonUSS cars prior to refresh Model 3 and Y, I'd say their used prices will be a clearout too as they got stung with any inventory they had during the price drop.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,901 ✭✭✭joe1303l


    Seems a bit short sighted of Tesla to give such a low ball valuation. I can understand that they want/don’t want stock at different times but they also have a big influence on the used tesla market rates here. Obviously a 2022 M3 would take a hit after yesterday but it be better for Tesla in the long run to influence this price drop rather than watching it free-fall. I’d suggest something in the region of €38K+ would be nearer the money. Independent used car dealers with a few Teslas in the yard are going to be really spooked after yesterday. Tesla trade in values like this will fuel this fire. If you’re happy with your 222, you’re as well to just keep it for a couple of years and let the depreciation level out.



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,919 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    I agree on that one point you made, after being burned on both their used and new cars there's a fair chance dealers will now give all trade in Teslas brutal valuation

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,182 ✭✭✭sk8board


    Wow 😳.

    the product is amazing, but Tesla sure are rinsing their loyal customers.

    there’s a firehose of capacity coming from factories, & Q4 unsold inventory, which they can only shift with a massive sale price.

    musk said on the Q3 investor call that they were still selling more cars that they could produce, which was clearly a lie.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,207 ✭✭✭innrain


    With the asterix that prior to Oct 22 the lowest priced Y was LR which now is 54k including grant. 6k reduction bringing it under the 60k



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 116 ✭✭Dasein


    used values falling can impact on PCP deals too because you have the guaranteed future value as part of the calculation



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,901 ✭✭✭joe1303l


    Would PCP not give new buyers some future protection in case Tesla make a habit of slashing prices ? It’s not very attractive currently at 6.4% but HP rates are probably similar if you need to finance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 116 ✭✭Dasein


    well the finance company guarantee the future value, if they drop those values then the repayments increase

    ultimately the price drops are fantastic for the consumer and tbh I'm not sure if there's any "easy" way for Tesla to implement them - in time people will forget about how it was done and focus will return to the extraordinary value ... but that's easy for me to say, I was a week away from collecting a M3 LR that would be worth a good €10k less than I'd agreed to pay for it ...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34 col_m999


    If they played it right with the trade in values for teslas they could lock a lot of people into teslas for next few cars. Like people are saying trading teslas to traditional dealers prob not gonna happen after the price drop. Think in 3 years time hopefully the depreciation will be at where it would have been anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 484 ✭✭Dozz


    Hi all.

    Sorry to deviate from the current discussion but I was wondering if anyone could recommend someone in the Kildare/Dublin area to take a small dint out of a Model 3 door?

    Someone decided to open their car door onto my car today. Luckily enough I saw it happen.

    Thanks



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,594 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Eddie Knight, The Dent Master!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,901 ✭✭✭joe1303l


    This guy is based near Portlaoise but travels a bit, can be very busy with car dealer work. If you can get him, he is excellent and very reasonable pricewise. 083 834 6416



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