Ireland running out of accommodation for Ukrainian refugees due to surge in non-Ukrainian refugees?

It surely doesn't help their credibility that they arrive off a plane with no documents, passport etc that had to have had before getting on the plane. If you can't even verify something as basic as a persons name how can you believe anything they tell you.

Yes, but if a person can't verify who they are and what country they have come from, they have no chance of having their asylum claim granted. The authorities can still check and cross check everything they are saying i.e. what flights they took across Europe, what countries they passed through, what other immigration authorities did they come in contact with (all of this is recorded on international databases).

Yeah but it's a regular refrain in this thread and others like it, one day soon an Irish Trump/Farage is going to step forward and sweep the scum off the streets. But nobody ever seems to have any indication that this is actually happening, even at the planning stage, or can even name any potential leader of such a movement. The thing is the political establishment have been hearing this sort of talk for pushing 30 years, since Ireland first started experiencing significant immigration. So unless and until such a populist-right force actually emerges and starts winning significant votes in meaningful elections, such talk will continue to be dismissed as hot air...

This is the thing.

No matter what the issue if you put it up on boards there will always be some people for and some people against no matter how batsh1t crazy there will always be some who have an opposite view.

This is a fairly active thread but not one poster,not one crank,not one bot or shill has come on here and said they agree with what's happening and the way it is happening.Its that truly,jaw dropping stupid that not even a username on an anonymous site could stand over it.

Incredible,and probably a first for boards.

Because most of the time they are bogus.

The likes of Pamela Izevbekhai arrived into Britain on a tourist visa and then traveled to Ireland if I recollect correctly.

She had a passport.

She claimed asylum and managed to con a huge chunk of the country, what looks like the entirety of the media and political class into believing her sob story which was all bunkum.

And it only costs us taxpayers a couple of million to get to the truth even though some would never have given her leave to remain from the start.

BTW verifying facts I just spotted none other than one Phillip Boucher-Hayes sworn an affidavit supporting Izevbekhai's claims for her legal case.

Ah the gullible classes.

What was the Nigerian embassy said again?

No wonder we have no room for Ukrainians as we have those with bogus sob stories being entertained and supported.

Beware though how they are trying to provoke posters to say things to get them banned.

It is as clear as crystal the tactics at play.

Aodhran O Riordain tweeted an anti xenophobia video from 1942 America which he said was “relevant”.

He didn’t think it relevant to point out that also in 1942 the Americans were rounding up tens of thousands of Japanese-Americans, including 80,000 American citizens and putting them in concentration camps.

Was there not a recent amnesty for those resident in Ireland for 3/4 years?

So many of those who arrived after destroying their passports have ultimately succeeded in their aim of living here.

40% of those arriving seeking International Protection destroy documents.

'The data reveals that for a period between January and July of this year, around 2,915 people flew into Dublin Airport and did not present their travel documents to border management officials...Of this total number, over 2,232, or 77 percent of them, subsequently sought asylum and were allowed to remain pending the assessment of their claim.'

Interestingly, only 177 left the state from January to October 2022 so it seems that destroying documents will not result in them having 'no chance' of being granted asylum.

'The cost of voluntary withdrawal as of June 2022, the latest information available, amounted to €438,512. That amount includes pre-return counselling, flights, medical support, escorts and post-return reintegration grants'.

Is it any wonder that we are running out of room. Even when someone is deported they get a few quid out of it. It would also be nice to see some evidence regarding the claim that 'most deportees leave voluntarily'.

Thankfully between the NP In the last GE and Peter Casey's presidential campaign, it's been shown the vast majority won't fall for the Trump school of politics.

Don't worry though lads, your right wing messiah is coming, any day now.......

It should be triaged on the spot at the point of entry in hours.

When you mention Peter Casey, you probably should mention the fact that he rose from less than 1% in the polls to getting 23% in the actual election by simply giving an honest opinion of the problem with travellers in this country.

He lacked charm and charisma and was up against a very likable and easy to vote for sitting president and was a huge achievement. He did particularly well with voters who live in areas with a high traveller population, while was less popular in places where the general public rarely have to deal with their antics.

I personally wouldn't ever vote for a National Party or their like, but would favour a centrist party who would actually acknowledge that we have a problem with bogus immigration and deal with it in a pragmatic manner. None of our established parties seem to want any border control and the main parties of opposition seem even less in favour of it.

I would like to see some controlled immigration to this country where a green card type system is used to fill positions where skills are lacking. I'd also wish to cater for genuine vetted refugees in a controlled manner where we can actually help them in numbers which we can handle.

I'd be lost as to who to vote for if there was an election in the morning and can see some people voting for the likes of the National Party out of sheer lack of choice. Probably still won't be big numbers but who knows if a strong leader managed to emerge.

International refugee law doesn't say anything about whether refugees should be carrying documentation or not. 80 asylum seekers could arrive in the back of a lorry at Rosslare or on a boat from Wales (or cross the border from NI). The state cannot discriminate against potential asylum seekers just because they have arrived on a plane, but then allow the ones in the back of a lorry at Rosslare without documentation through. They have to apply the exact same immigration procedures to every single person who arrives in the state claiming asylum.

If people are destroying their passports before they arrive, that is indeed very unhelpful, but the state just has to try and work its way around it.

That's 23% of 1st preference votes, we never found out how many 2nd preference vote he got, and that was 6 years ago!!! A lot has happened in those years!! What would a candidate like that get today, Casey was a tv personality on a parochial tv station, not a particularly likeable chap in what was a meaningless election.

Ireland needs to build a new modern mega city