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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 563 ✭✭✭Bitcoin


    more evidence that the fight continues.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 287 ✭✭dennis72


    Ukraine sources are a bit strange atm.

    Russians never can be believed it'll be a patriot system taken out tomorrow

    I suspect the black out is to keep orcs guessing

    If Russia gets its ass handed in soledar it'll be another new general soon.

    The kraut/frog arsehole leaders tardy inaction that are also threat to Ukraine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 563 ✭✭✭Bitcoin


    Julian showing his true colours and how he is not to be trusted by anyone.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 53,321 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Russian propagandists are on full steam on social media channels. There's a massive increase in them lately, all selling that Soledar has fallen. I mean the situation there sounds hairy but there's an air of if you say it enough times it will be true... or Julian will report it as his journalistic verification extends only as far as reading it on twitter/telegram. I was initially worried about the situation but reliable sources aren't able to confirm and the sheer volume of propagandists trying to sell it makes it seem like there's truth behind the push due to announcing it too early.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,415 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Unfortunately as we have seen time and time again, if Ukraine say one thing and Russia say another, some posters will just naturally latch onto what Russia says as gospel.

    There's misinformation on both sides during war, but there's a difference between misinformation and propaganda!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,060 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Ukraine has ferreted out 600 Orc sympathisers, agents, quislings, saboteurs, traitors, and their ilk, most of them 'Ukrainian', though a few Horde natives. They have a huge problem with the enemy within, but are dealing with it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,580 ✭✭✭Cordell


    Of course they do but it's different. To put is simply their propaganda doesn't advocate for drowning russian children and raping russian women. They don't lie like the russian scum lie, calling this war just a special operation. They don't justify killing and raping children by claiming they were nazis.

    And for what is worth I don't even claim to be objective. Russia is the enemy so I will support Ukraine simply because of this reason.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 563 ✭✭✭Bitcoin


    Member of the AFU reports fighting is going on and there is "good news".

    orc offensive is in serious trouble.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,060 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    For Gatling - some light reading ;-)

    Will they really give 100-200-300-400 Leo2 tanks? Will 100 Leo2 and a few hundred Bradley on top? Hmm

    A part is definitely only on paper, a part should be left for details, a part will have to replace the lost tanks. Even more modern versions of the Turkish Leopard were burning in Syria from ATGMs. Therefore, it is help, but not a panacea - they will also be lost.

    Of course, it is necessary to negotiate with other countries as well. There are also Canadians - maybe thanks to the diaspora we will get something. There are the same Greeks with whom the Germans may agree on another tank exchange, etc.

    If the Germans and the French already had a replacement for the Leopards and Leclercs in the form of a new European MGCS tank, it would greatly improve the resolution of the issue for us and the Germans. But this project is delayed and so far this tank is only in the project.

    The Germans now have to make a strategic decision for themselves by "transplanting" the Armed Forces to their tanks, which will give battle to the Russian army. Part will be lost. In order to replenish the losses, it is necessary to immediately start producing new 2A7s to transfer to the existing operators. Take old 2A4 for Ukraine and give or promise to replace it with 2A7. Over time, it may even begin to transfer 2A5 or even 2A7 to Ukraine.

    The MGCS project is thus delayed. The Germans need to become a tank nation again now. This is a very difficult decision. On the one hand, if German tanks can defeat the Russian army with Ukrainian hands, then in fact this is a hint to China and all its enemy neighbors.

    After the "victory", Turks, Greeks, Azerbaijanis, Hindus and/or Pakistanis and many more countries can actually be in line for the leopards (cross your fingers).

    This is on the one hand. On the other hand, at least for a year, the tank industry of Germany must switch to military rails. There will be a need for hundreds of new tanks in the coming years + hundreds of repairs and upgrades already this year. And in this way, Germany openly becomes a geopolitical rival of Russia and indirectly of China. That is, there is no question of any Berlin-Moscow-Beijing axis as a counterbalance to Washington.

    A very difficult decision for the Germans, which they will be forced to accept. We are gradually entering the decisive weeks.

    P.S. Yes, everything is not so simple. 30 "German" 2A4s have already been contracted for the Czech Republic (15) and Slovakia (15), which gave us the T-72. It seems that we should think again about the Polish PT-91 Twardy..."




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    A Nato AWACS Aircraft is being deployed to Romania,I believe it's the first time we've seen one deployed so close to the war in Ukraine,

    The question has to be will it be actively involved in intelligence and target gathering for the Ukrainans


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,026 ✭✭✭✭pgj2015


    Does anyone have any idea what will happen to Ukrainian men 18 to 60, who fled the Country once war started, what is likely to happen to them if they return to Ukraine once the war is over?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,695 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    The default Russian position is to lie. They have lied about the reasons for the invasion. Lied about how they are conducting the war. Lied about specific atrocities.

    Ukraine has engaged in tactical military deceptions, as does Russia.

    Start listing all the things Russia has lied about, all its false claims .. and you won't get to the Ukrainian ones.

    Where there is doubt about battlefield claims, Ukraine has earned and is entitled to the benefit of the doubt.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,140 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    The first is real. You can see the huge about of footprints that would be generated by the effort.

    The second, third and forth are Photoshopped. No footprints at all (and there would be a massive amount of them when moving that many bodies), they're all in the exact same location, taken from the exact same vantage point in mid air (there'd be no snow left at all if they'd rearranged that many bodies that many times, and it would take so long, the light would change) , 2 and 3 have had Christmas lights added to the pylon structure, 4 had had the overhead wires edited out, and 2 has had the markers on the overhead wires (lust left of the pylon) photoshopped out.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 53,321 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    I think Russia is pushing so hard for this Soledar win is that they won't get a win anywhere else they can sell to the Russian public. And they really need a win to sell the inevitable second round of mobilization. If they don't get a win it's going to be a very hard sell.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,030 ✭✭✭jackboy


    Yeah, that is bollocks. Whether they take Bakhmut or not it is a strategic defeat for Russia. They have lost much men and equipment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Imagine after 324 days and multiple retreats the best Russia can do is to take a salt mine,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,448 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Wonder if this has bought time for UAF forces to prep for new offensive in other locations. Russians have been so focused on the salt mines its possible gaps have opened up on the wider front.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,621 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    😂And tell me, what part of geolocated combat footage is "Russian PR"? or full of **** and lies?

    Were all the videos and images faked? The Russians have a scale model of Soledar in Siberia that theyre posting videos from, to dupe all the OSINT folks? 🤣

    The lengths some here will go to to deny the evidence based truth is hilarious - just because you dont like the outcome does not mean the OSINT is false.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 563 ✭✭✭Bitcoin


    Zelensky spoke a few days ago about the defenders at Soledar buying time for the AFU. It would not surprise me at all that Ukraine have already committed forces for a counter offensive somewhere else, possibly Zaporizhzhia or an amphibious assault over the left bank of the Dnipro. We could be looking at trading a salt mine a massive chunk of southern Ukraine very easily.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,555 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    You can see on the x's in the 3rd image that they're identical too. Clearly photoshopped.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    The lengths some here will go to to deny the evidence based truth is hilarious


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 563 ✭✭✭Bitcoin


    Captured orcs. Look at the state of them 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,648 ✭✭✭Dubh Geannain


    Maybe elsewhere but the Russians have been reinforcing Kremina the last couple of weeks too. It was where I had been hoping to see the next Ukrainian breakthrough. The Russians has thinned themselves out more in Kherson too possibly reinforcing the southern front so I'm not going to predict where Ukraine might manage a successful counteroffensive next. The further North is the most likely to freeze quicker than elsewhere so I'd still hope to see developments in Luhansk sooner there.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 53,321 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Kremina looks like the mostly likely. If they push far enough it will also make any gains in and around Bahkmut meaningless.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 53,321 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    He's an ex navy seal ,he posts some decent stuff but sometimes he's wide of the Mark, but he corrects himself when it's pointed out



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,253 ✭✭✭Thinkingaboutit



    Soledar really is the consolation prize after the Wagner PMC (& DNPR and Russian Army) push on Bakhmut failed. Putin will have some salt now.


    Anders Puck Nielsen is a serving Danish officer teaching (wears his uniform for work or on Danish TV) at its Royal Naval Academy. He notes how Shoigu the Shaman (I give him that title as Shoigu sometimes feels the need to deny that he's follows the Siberian folk religion of his parents, and that he's a proper Russian Orthodox believer), the actual Defence Minister also has his own 'Patriot' PMC alongside the famous Prigozhin force now headquartered in St Petersburg. PMCs are illegal in Russia, as they are in most countries, so he think's all a bit wild. Essentially the point he makes that in these 'new wars' private actors actually have an interest in continuing war, albeit not as intense as now for Russia doesn't have infinite convicts, but preferably a sort of frozen conflict.





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