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"Green" policies are destroying this country

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,888 ✭✭✭kabakuyu


    Greens have always been an urban clique who appeal to urbanites with plenty of money, the middle cohort will lose out due to increased carbon taxes and the cessation of grants (like the ev grant due for removal in June after all the green party associates have had their fill), no doubt the greens will throw a few crumbs to the elderly and non working population to keep them quiet.Hows things in London bTW.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,346 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    well unfortunately for you more than 70% of Irish people live in urban areas so they must still have huge support



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,085 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,888 ✭✭✭kabakuyu


    I dont have a car, gone for 7 years now, bike for me and walking.Would'nt be seen dead on an electric bus, the inbetweeners were right.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 209 ✭✭Tippman24


    I think it might be better to think of a nature reserve where culchies hunt greenies down. I think it could even be sold to the Dubs.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,888 ✭✭✭kabakuyu


    Vast areas of larger urban areas in Ireland do not have the income profile that would vote green.Looks like you have been gone too long out of Ireland.You know feck all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    Abu Dhabi oil chief appointed president of COP28 climate summit

    Sultan al-Jaber’s pivotal role in upcoming Dubai conference sparks concern among green campaigners

    LOLs!



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 95,006 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Finland's new reactor started construction in 2005 and was supposed to go online in 2009. It's still not commissioned. A 4 year project that's now 14 years late.

    vs.

    Increasing wind by 75% last year. With ~1GW a year in the pipeline for the next few year the 2025 target is 28% of electricity which isn't that far off the 34% they were getting from nuclear.

    Imagine how much wind power they'd have had if they weren't shovelling money into a pit or spending it on fossil fuels to provide the power the delayed reactor was supposed to.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,250 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    If someone posts blatant science denialism and conspiracy theories why would you thank it unless you agree?

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,250 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    On average the planet is warming. Last 8 years were the warmest 8 years on record. Globally, in a La Nina year, it was 5th/6th warmest year on record in 2022. La Nina is supposed to result in cooler than average global temperatures

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,250 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    There's a typo on the 3rd line of the 'abstract' you posted.

    I don't think this is a particularly credible source.

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,085 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    Yep- I don’t dispute that whatsoever- but do you honestly think humans can control an entire planets weather system?

    Ie do you think we can make a blind bit of difference to stopping climate change- seen as climate change has happened many times before humans were a thing?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭Kincora2017


    I think I would be largely in agreement with that. It is a complex issue, there’s economic & societal factors too and there isn’t a one size fits all model.

    I wouldn’t agree that that show is based solely on thr presenters experience though. The opinions of the first lad talking about growing the villages for people moving back to the country and then the Planner talking about how there’s no planning apps for houses in village centres is eye opening, but nothing that should surprise anyone- It’s obvious that the centres are on their last legs. I also don’t think the presenter is saying you can’t be happy living in a one-off house. He’s saying it’s not a sustainable way for everyone to live, and he’d be right.

    while I don’t think anyone would respond well to being told what they can’t do, it might come to that if the problem is ignored any further. I would have zero confidence in any of the main parties addressing it tbh seeing as they’ve by and large presided over the decline. I don’t think TDs will do little to help. As I said it’ll mostly be up to councillors and The CoCo to actually implement the Development Plans as written.

    It’s also seems mad to me that you get anyone on here defending one-off housing to the hilt, particularly if they come from the country. There isn’t any part of this country that doesn’t have its villages and small towns dying.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,250 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Nobody said we can control the climate. What were doing is very far from controlling it.

    We're **** it up big time. Human activity has increased the concentration of C02 in the atmosphere by almost 50%

    We've also altered the chemistry of the world's oceans, the PH of the global oceans by making it 30% more acidic (or less alkaline) due to the Ocean absorbing most of our vast CO2 emissions

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,301 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    The Canadian Center of Science and Education and Dr. Wallace Manheimer, a renowned nuclear physicist are far more credible source compared to alarmist garbage you regularly put out. Example of that is visible in your post above this one.



  • Posts: 15,362 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I find it amusing that deniers that have been made into academic laughing stocks after their nonsense debunked an insane amount of times are regarded as "renowned"

    It really gives me a chuckle on a regular basis.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl


    Green policy should be called out for what it is "Social Engineering" proles get back to turnip farming while MR Ryan heads of on the jollies with 18 mates on a jet to a far off destination. 🤪



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,066 ✭✭✭✭Danzy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,250 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Lol. Your professor of thinkology couldn't be bothered to proof read past the 3rd line of his paper. There are loads of other mistakes in that abstract too.

    If I posted something that shambolic to support my position I would be absolutely mortified

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,250 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    It's a lot like the phishing emails from Nigerian princes that are full of spelling mistakes. They do that on purpose to filter out anyone with half a brain who would see through their scam immediately

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,250 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    ..

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 95,006 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Reducing fossil fuel emissions by 80% is exactly what big oil wants is it ?


    Last year French nuclear had a capacity factor of 52.9% which was less than the Hywind offshore wind farm, over the last 5 years it averaged 54%.

    France hasn't completed a nuclear reactor since the 1990's and has even closed down a few since then. It's not like are capable of rolling them out anymore. And they certainly can't build them on schedule so Germany can't look to France for alternatives to Russian gas.

    At present it looks like France (and the US) will have to replace their ageing nuclear fleets in the timescale it's taken them to build the newest plant. The UK has already passed that as almost all their reactors are due to be shut down before the newest plant opens. It's renewables or fossil fuel because new nuclear won't be here in time.


    Do you have a link to back up that claim for a trillion ? I fear you're including hundreds of billions being spent on LNG and rebates for customers because of increased gas costs.

    Germany's government says it will spend up to €200 billion to help consumers and businesses cope with rising energy prices. Hint it's not the renewables going up in price.

    Germany to spend 200 billion euros on energy transition in independence push but that's about electric cars and decarbonisation , not renewables

    Germany Paid Record $38 Billion for Green Power Growth in 2020 so nearly 4% of a trillion there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,250 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    What do you mean by social engineering?

    Do you think the Greens are trying to trick us into giving them our banking passwords and CVV numbers?

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,250 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Btw,every government uses social engineering (political science) to use legislation and incentives to encourage people to act in some ways over others.

    You wear a seatbelt when in a car because of social engineering

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl


    lets see.

    No more country houses live in cites.

    Burn only the stuff we say you can.

    Telling people what modes of transport they allow.

    Cut CO2 but only the way we say how. I.E no nuclear.

    Outside of cites if for wildlife only and rich folks to enjoy who can afford to travel there.

    Your holiday in not needed but we can go off to far flung destinations with 18 mates.

    Don't go to the shop we suggest growing cress in a window box for your dinner.

    Then Actually Nuclear is ok as long as it's not here.

    Windmills in the sea scare the fish away that's great so they cant be fished anyway no fish for you.

    I could go on and on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,250 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Not one word of that rant is actually true

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,863 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl


    BS You can't burn Smokey coal for example. They want you on cargo bikes or in a EV. They don't want one off houses 15 minute areas. I'm not going to rehash the rest.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 478 ✭✭Run Forest Run


    I actually quite liked a lot of the ideas being presented in the program. They seemed to tick a lot of the boxes in terms of practicality while also addressing the look and feel and aesthetics of a place - which is obviously very important when you are trying to entice families to make somewhere their home. It can't be just purely about efficiency or pragmatism, because there is more to people's lives than that.

    It still wouldn't be for me personally, but that's my personal preferences and way of life.

    However, it did definitely come across a bit like a sales pitch - like this is how everyone should embrace living in the future. No real balance to the program, giving some examples of people who are happy and functioning well in one off homes. (of which there are many in this country)

    I don't really see why you would need to take drastic measures to force people into that mode of living. The people in the program were not forced to go down this route, and they seem happy with their choice. Really, the attitude should be one of "build it and they will come"... design it very well, and I'm sure you will get plenty of people who will choose it as their preferred option. Anyone who wants to renovate and help to get rid of the eyesore of dereliction in these towns and villages, should be given plenty of supports and grants etc... there's definitely been a culture of ignoring abandoned properties and not doing enough to bring them back into serviceable condition sooner in this country. That trend is thankfully starting to change gradually. That's certainly an area where I would welcome a more aggressive approach.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,085 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    But you are trying to control it by trying to stop climate change.

    Climate change will happen wether we pump out CO2 or completely stop burning fossil fuels will it not?



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