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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    See loads of the Pro Kremlin bloggers have risen from the dead today - subtext messaging that the poor Ukrainians are bet etc and may as well roll over. The west should cut it's losses and just restore their trade etc.

    One swallow never made a summer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,852 ✭✭✭zv2


    If those worms did not hand Kherson city over to the Russians at the beginning the war things would be very different now.

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,139 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    So "plenty of videos" turned out to be a tweet from some random pro-Palestinian/anti-US account of some screenshots from another random account, and a no-context video with no discernable audio.

    Funny, if you go to the account she screenshotted, https://twitter.com/alexeyburov73 it doesn't exist!

    There is an @oleksiiburov73 (https://twitter.com/oleksiiburov73) with the same name, and the Ukrainian and UK flags, but he didn't post anything like that.

    Can you see how that might be problematic for your claim?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,449 ✭✭✭nigeldaniel


    The Hybrid war being fought in Ukraine today is completely new [its not all WW1 and 2] to most seasoned and experienced armies. What Ukraine is doing in relation to Soledar is correct. Strategy and techniques always need to be modified or changed in the face of Russian maniacal use of cannon fodder. We cannot expect the Ukraine to commit countless numbers of its own forces knowing Russia will send in more zombies time and time again. what Ukraine's army are doing now is working with new ideas and plans with evident help from experts. we need to hold fast and not be too unduly worried if they pull back every now and again... thats the correct thing to do. once a plan is put in place to deal with Russian zombies then we will see a different result. as for Belarus and lucky Luca... I am out of ideas about what's going on there.

    Dan.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,397 ✭✭✭Ardent


    I don't think he's a dick, rather he's a glass half empty kind of person.

    Mistakes have certainly been made at Soledar. War Translated posted a video the other day showing troops on the front line at Bakhmut hinting at the underperformance of their general(s).

    Julian gets a bad rap for telling it like it is, in a very blunt manner.



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 32,766 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    For what its worth I looked at the https://twitter.com/oleksiiburov73 account straight after it was posted and I saw comments such as those referenced. He appears to have deleted the thread.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,011 ✭✭✭macraignil


    The EU was established initially to promote free trade in Europe and reduce the chances of war breaking out between the independent countries of the EU. It is not one country and even though it might be nicer to see russia's vicious invasion of its neighbour defeated more quickly it is not the case that "its feck all use". The EU and its member states have already provided billions of euro worth of aid to Ukraine, have welcomed in over a million and a half of its citizens trying to avoid being killed by a russian armed force intent on genocide in their country and led the way in sanctions to help weaken the russian economy.The horde as you describe the russian forces are now made up of the remains of their professional army stripped of most of its heavy weapons and experienced troops and now propped up with released prisoners and conscripts so the threat to the EU from invasion is a lot less than it might have appeared before putin made the mistake of escalating russian activity in Ukraine last year. It is great that the US has provided the support that it has but the support from some EU countries is an even greater proportion of their GDP and in my opinion it is only because the USA economy is so strong that the EU countries assistance seems small in comparison.

    Edit: To clarify what I have said I am just making the point that it is not like the EU is doing nothing about the situation in Ukraine. I do think more needs to be done to teach the russians a lesson and to reduce the chance of them invading one of their neighbouring countries again.

    Post edited by macraignil on


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 32,766 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    See below. One can surmise from this that the now deleted thread was at least substantially the same as that quoted.

    Doesn't necessarily mean its correct either of course.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,767 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    That's exactly what Switzeralnd did to the EU after 7 years of negotiating terms for a treaty, they said f*ck that and abandoned the deal, and switched to trying to just buy favour and quasi EU membership with tiny little bags of money.


    Australia gave an alimighty FY to China and it's worked out just fine. They have stopped the Chinese from buying the country out from under them, are getting very serious about defence spending - nuclear powered submarines no less. Just in the last week China sidlined it's obnoxious wolf warrior diplomat who they had had previously unleashed like a tiny little attack dog.

    China’s wolf warrior diplomat, who goaded Morrison, moved to obscure post




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,514 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    The first tweet could be about banning beef burgers for all it says. The second could be the army arresting someone for theft. The conversation between the people in military clothes and the civilian looking guy can’t be heard. Neither proves your point.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,767 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Scholz - it's almost as if Меркель (Merkel) were still in power.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,777 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    He's negative when the situation is negative, positive when it's positive. He's a journalist, his job is to find the facts. Most of his stuff is just the same OSINT you get anywhere else. Many other OSINT mappers would come to the same conclusions, though they mightnt have as large a profile or rep as (jihadi) julian.

    He is undoubtedly pro Ukraine, and very outspoken about how the Germans in particular are not doing enough and need to supply more, especially tanks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,844 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    The EU isn't arguing, various countries may be arguing but the EU doesn't really have a mandate to direct control over sovereign countries defence forces, that's more what NATO can do.

    Now we can circle back if/when the EU creates an EU army. Until then try to focus your anger on individual countries or more specifically at those countries leaders, or just focus it on scholz!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,844 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    To put some context on it, that was back in late June, 7 months ago and since then Russia has advanced.... About 14km in that area.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    He previously claimed that NASMs anti aircraft missles were blowing up buildings all over Kiev ,

    According to unnamed sources



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 293 ✭✭AngeloArgue


    Ukrainians fight smartly and with better tech and intelligence reports from the west. Russia throw wave after wave of conscripts at Ukrainian lines, sometimes unarmed and waiting to pick up the rifle as it's dropped by those in front who are mowed down. Soledar will be a victory for Ukraine any way you look at it, 1000s of dead Russians for minimal Ukrainian casualties. Ukraine has defeated Russia in Kyiv, Kharkiv and Kherson. And yet we have Putler supporters on here salivating at the prospect of taking a small rural town at the cost of tens of thousands of their soldiers lives



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,513 ✭✭✭RGARDINR


    Only thing I don't get is then why not do that. Have a million extra in your army and in the summer time unleash them on the Russians. Have them highly trained by then and just push the Russians completely out of Ukraine. I don't know why you wouldn't do this.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 32,766 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    It is not an EU competency. This is very basic stuff. It has nothing to do with Brussels - they have no authority or power to act. Their focus is on what is in their remit which is economic aid.

    You have issues with (mostly) the German government.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,117 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    All this, will they, won't they, supply tanks etc is just encouraging the Russians who will seize on any chink in the alliance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    President @AndrzejDuda in Lviv: A company of Leopard tanks for Ukraine will be transferred as part of building an international coalition. Such a decision is already in Poland


    Dundalk, Co. Louth



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,011 ✭✭✭macraignil


    Brussels as another poster has already tried to explain to you does not have its own army. The EU as I said already is not a single country but an economic cooperative body promoting trade and peace in between its member states. There is no single EU army. In my opinion putin would like to see more countries involved directly with his invasion of Ukraine as it would help him with the narrative his propaganda has tried to promote that he is leading the russian people in a glorious defense of their nation against the entire western world which is trying to destroy it. The war with Ukraine is very likely a tool he is using to stay in power and every day his forces are being suppressed by a smaller nation like Ukraine makes him look weak which is more dangerous for him in my opinion than another army fighting against his troops on the battlefield. (edit)Even now after less than one year of embarrassment for the russian military there is already more talk of russia disintegrating:


    There are currently no EU or NATO troops in russian territory or any signs there is any intention by any member of the EU to invade russia yet russia has taken drastic actions against the EU due to its support for Ukraine. I'm not convinced the russian nuclear weapon stockpile is fully usable due to its age but even a small portion of it could have a disastrous effect on wherever such weapons were used so I can understand some nations being slow to reach decisions on what to do about russia's aggression and genocidal tendencies. Mock the EU strategy if you like but to use your own metaphor I can see the sense in giving Ukraine a very big stick so it can beat the living **** out of the russians who have invaded their land and teach them that it would be a very bad idea to try it again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,242 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Fair dues to Poland for once again trying to force Germany to do the right thing, to side with Ukraine.


    Germany will find a way to delay sending their own ones, more will be promised but never delivered but the key part for Scholz to stop it will not supporting the vehicles with parts and other such maintenance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Yesterday's news .

    We're already on to the Germans refusing to allow any transfers of tanks until the Americans pony up Abrams tanks first



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,430 ✭✭✭paul71


    I am curious, where are these EU tanks you are talking about?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Imagine if we did see an EU army formed you can guarantee Germany would be given a Veto to block any kind of deployments



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,352 ✭✭✭ZeroThreat


    hmm would be interesting to know this person's views now and if they've changed in any way, that's if he/she is still activate on boards.ie ..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 955 ✭✭✭junkyarddog




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,430 ✭✭✭paul71


    Thats a nice list. Question still remains the same, where are the EU tanks you spoke about?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,513 ✭✭✭RGARDINR


    Must be. If you could even have say 200k of them sitting trained with just even their infantry weapons on the border with Belarus then you can more or less guaranteed no further Russian invasion from there.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,139 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa



    When is UEFA going to stop idly standing around and send in its tanks?



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