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Hate speech on boards.ie

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,322 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    No problem, this is not about you. I guess you just stood out to me for your earlier 'orcs' comment. One of the terms currently in favour for Russians and obviously the punchline of your 'joke'.

    This is just a general observation of mine that hate speech rules seem to have been suspended in these threads. I'm sure some people will say rightly so etc, but thats neither here nor there IMO. There is hate speech and it's being tolerated.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    It's not an accusation ...

    Imagine someone saying I think that poster has multiple accounts to bypass bans that could be an accusation.

    Russian soldiers slaughtering towns , women, Children, raping men , women and children.

    This is all documented, War crimes carried out against the population of Ukraine.

    Are you saying it's not true ?



  • Posts: 441 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I'm sorry but a claim without verifiable proof is just an accusation and potentially hate speech depending on the accusation made.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    They haven't been, warning are regularly iseeued along with bans , there is more banned from that one thread than most others threads in CA



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    No this is all documented fact .

    Thousands of warcrimes carried out in Ukraine by Russian soldiers over the last few months.

    Or do you prefer the term the denazification of Ukraine



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  • Posts: 441 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    As I said before, if you're going to throw around accusations against an entire group that at least have the decency to post links from repeatable sources to prove what you are saying is true.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,412 ✭✭✭Jequ0n


    Provide evidence then that every single Russian, no matter the personal circumstances, is guilty by default and deserves to suffer the consequences of war. Please, give us those facts, or accept that you are being xenophobic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    So Russia didn't invade Ukraine, and Russian soldiers haven't committed thousands of war crimes and wholesale slaughter of Ukrainans..

    Let's hear the real story, 🤣

    But then again likely trying to use this to by pass the ban on the thread discussing it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,412 ✭✭✭Jequ0n


    Then stop making broad statements about a whole nation who you deem collectively responsible for something.



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  • Posts: 441 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Again, another baseless accusation where did I say that Russia didn't invade Ukraine?

    And again to be very clear and accusation against a group of people without reliable proof is by definition hate speech towards that group.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    No .

    I speak about Russian soldiers,the ones who have committed thousands of War crimes I'm ukraine.

    As you have already said several times you reported posts and got none actioned that says alot about someone who doesn't contribute to a thread,

    I want action, I'm not reporting posts and I demand action's.

    Childish nonsense



  • Posts: 441 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Again, as I have said numerous times you do nothing but post accusations without links to verifiable sources. So go on. Let's see some of the sources you are using to tar an entire group with serious accusations.

    Or do you admit that you are committing an act of hate speech?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Nice try and its been cheerful but I'm not playing your silly game ,

    Anyway there's a busy thread I'm getting back to



  • Posts: 441 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The reason you are not playing my so-called game is because you are incapable of providing verifiable sources to back up your claims. So you have finally admitted by being unable to back up your accusations that you have been using hate speech against an entire group of people.

    But by all means, run off with your tail between your legs to your safe space where you can freely spew all of the hateful statements you want seemingly with mod and site owners approval.

    Thankfully when you post in other threats. Me and others will call you out for your hateful rhetoric.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,412 ✭✭✭Jequ0n


    People can see it for what it is, and it certainly says a lot that the reports weren’t actioned. But I guess this is why this thread was opened.

    Looks like “hate speech” only applies to very narrow subgroups. Fine if that’s what boards wants to do I guess.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Sounds like sour grapes against the mods or a particular mod ,

    I doubt your no angel either,,,,,,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,561 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    The Russian people are ALL complicit in the invasion of Ukraine, by their inaction.

    If they don't want Putin and his acolytes perpetrating this international crime on their behalf, they should stand up and say so.

    I'm aware this would be a very risky step in Russia, but silence is cowardice and cowardice is complicity. And if cowards die, well they're probably better off than continuing their miserable callow existences anyway.

    Sorry pal, but so long as Russian military forces keep so much as one toe in Ukraine, as the global community understood it to be in 2013, all charges of xenophobia against people speaking against Russia and all Russian people as one big criminal collective, are void.

    Do what you wish with that.



  • Posts: 1,678 [Deleted User]


    Even Russian children are complicit? This collective responsibility stuff has led to dangerous outcomes. Grand and easy for people here, not living under intimidation and propaganda, to say just stand up when they have families to protect, not just themselves.



  • Posts: 441 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Us Irish are in no position to lecture anyone about standing up to their government since we are one of the most passive nations when it comes to protesting and demanding change. How many crises do we have currently running at the moment yet no major protests.

    And only an individual who is a psychopath would blame children for the actions of their country's government.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    they forcibly adopting 600,000 + Ukrainian children, kidnapped by Russian forces and sent back to Russia,

    600,000+ Russian families are getting a Ukrainan child / children under an illegal adoption scheme .

    Explain that one



  • Posts: 441 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Are you familiar with the phrase "put up or shut up" because again you have made another accusation against a nation while providing zero proof of what you claim to be true is actually true.

    I'm not defending the above. Just asking you to provide sources for your claims, unless of course you will admit that you can't?

    Notice that of February 2022, just over 1.4 million had gone to Russia.

    Now let's see you try posting a source.



  • Posts: 1,678 [Deleted User]


    I can't of course. Don't see how it refutes what I said though. I'm not supportive of Putin in the slightest btw, and people who do, absolutely baffle me, but blaming the ordinary folk living under an extremely dangerous and power crazed man is something I don't agree with.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    But on the thread that's being referenced a few times , nobody is bad mouthing the entire population of Russia,they are complicit unfortunately,look at all of the pro z marches and celebration that were help across the eu including here ,not by people living in a back water dictatorship but living freely in Ireland and the rest of the Democratic eu , enjoying the freedom s and safety, right we afford them, while celebrating the wholesale slaughter of the Ukrainan population, telling us that ukraine and Ukrainians don't have a right to exist,

    There's been a trail of attacks and assaults by Russian on Ukrainians living in the eu or fleeing Russian bombs and missles in Ukraine



  • Posts: 1,678 [Deleted User]


    I only refuted the person who said absolutely every Russian is complicit. That's a silly thing to say.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Estimates based off Russian claims they produced the same figure 9 years ago too , forced deportated doesn't make you a refugee ,

    It called kidnapping

    Got nothing to do with this topic



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 503 ✭✭✭BagofWeed


    So I'll guess you agree that the people of Britain were complicit in the actions of the British Armed Forces in Ireland/Northern Ireland, all complicit for hundreds of years, all of them. And the people of the USA are complicit in the destruction of Iraq, as well as dozens of other countries. What type of treatment would you suggest the peoples of the aforementioned rogue nations should receive from the global international community ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭ElitesTeam


    Why don't you go back to your Russia thread and sprout your propaganda there. This is not the correct thread.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,372 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Should you be allowed here to comment where a person from X country kills a man in a hit and run and all media except 1 source reports it as a hit and run without giving the details of the country the person was from or a flight risk to go back to despite it being an actual factual record of what happened in the court case? Would a poster be classed as a racist/hate criminalist?



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