Ireland running out of accommodation for Ukrainian refugees due to surge in non-Ukrainian refugees?

I'm just wondering why the locals of east wall don't seem to care about actual murders being done to innocent people in their area when it's their own doing it. Then some men being put in an office in the area seems to spook them far more than actual women being murdered by their own. It kind of says to me that they're absolutely full of sh*t.

But we're not talking about natural organic population growth here... we're talking about an artificial (and highly aggressive) plan to enlarge our population to unsustainable levels over a relatively short period of time.

The people who thought up these hair-brained ideas, had the same outlook that you are expressing. They made some arbitrary analysis of the size of our Island and population, and looked at other nations... then came to the conclusion that our population was too small and we could easily accommodate a much larger one... and now we're in this ridiculous mess because too few people recognised the stupidity of that line of thinking!

Can I ask you, what is wrong with having a sparsely populated country? Why the need to fill up all the empty space with as many bodies as possible? To what end exactly? I'm sure there are people who enjoy the experience of living like sardines in places like Tokyo etc... but there is equally quite a lot of people who dislike it too. (not to mention all the physical and mental health problems that usually skyrocket when you squash people together in densely populated areas)

I guess I just don't get the mentality. People see a space, and feel a deep need to fill it... with very little thought for what societal implications that might bring.

Shot ? Maybe she woke up from a nightmare

The question is where to house the refugees? Do they all stay in tents? I presume they will also have issues finding a place to rent like the rest of people moving to Ireland?

They are all going to stay in holiday homes and run down houses in the west of Ireland, the hundred thousand this year will also stay in these homes, same with next year.

All will be magically fixed up for human habitation, within a short time.

In reality this time in 2024 and 2025 there will be less houses built and renovated than in 2022 and no Govt will be able to change that.

It's a jaw dropping fantasy, even before we look at infrastructure, etc etc. A radical free market experiment not seen since the 1880s in America.

I wonder are the Govt trying to leave an almighty housing crisis on the door or Sinn Féin. It's already massive but adding 300k in the next couple of years to demand with the head wind's that housing is facing, anyone ever hear of inflation or the ECB?

Within a few years we'll be looking at 200k, maybe 300k house shortfall.

When you hear people talk about solidarity etc, that is mammy and daddys pocket speaking.

Same as activists go on about violent white male incels/toxic masculinity and get very quiet when males from 'certain groups' do the violence.

Do you accept that population growth in a country is not "abnormal" or "an aberration"? Ireland's population has been growing consistently for the last 60 years at least. The idea that Ireland will become "overpopulated" or "unsustainable" is laughable, given its current small size. Demographers think the population of the Republic is very unlikely to go over 6m in the next thirty to forty years.

This is borderline insanity. Land mass means little when we can't even support the people who are already here. What part of that exactly are you struggling with? Do you think that the government has a magic wand or something? Where they can just conjure up hundreds of thousands of houses and all the resources needed for this ever growing population?

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I saw on Twitter a while back, Dan Boyle of the Greens counter some argument by saying that if Ireland was as densely populated as the Netherlands we could support 37 million people.

Imagine the amount of concrete, houses, roads etc, the environmental damage, the size of the human footprint that would be required to support 37 million people on this island, and a "Green" Party member thinking this would be a good idea.

The thing you don't appear to be able to grasp is organic population growth over years where more people stay, lower emigration, more immigrants enter the country to work, meaning more kids over time and an ever increasing population can be managed somewhat.

What is going on at the moment is just adding huge numbers of non working (often unskilled and uneducated) people without any means of support bar using state supports suddenly entering the country.

It is fooking madness.

Our state institutions cannot cope with our existing numbers as evidenced over the last couple of decades of health, education and latterly housing difficulties.

Investment in public services have not risen to meet our existing population, never mind the near 100k that came in over the last year, all of which need some public services or other.

Added to the above lots of these arrivals offer nothing, but social problems as evidenced by other European countries, it is sowing the seeds of destruction of our society as we know it.

And a bunch of fooking muppets just want to keep adding to it.

Fooking sheer lunacy.

The largest urban renewal scheme ever undertaken

2.5 billion it says here...

Im not saying the people of ballymun don't deserve it.

I think there might be deeper social issues.