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Ireland running out of accommodation for Ukrainian refugees due to surge in non-Ukrainian refugees?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,365 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    the reality is pretty much everywhere in the anglosphere where most people go to from ireland has a housing crisis right now. hopefully it's sorted by then in ireland and those other countries now. i'm in london now and there are queues for available apartments, if it wasn't for the fact my partner knew the owner of our current place, we'd be rightly screwed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,215 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes




    I dont think this is going to help them in the way you think.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,177 ✭✭✭Fandymo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,215 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    if you think there are not people IN ballymun smart enough to realize the damage this does to the image of their area you are patronizing them.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,841 ✭✭✭TomTomTim


    Appeasing a certain strain of middle class people is how we go into this mess, so I'll not be wasting too much time worrying about their thoughts.

    “The man who lies to himself can be more easily offended than anyone else. You know it is sometimes very pleasant to take offense, isn't it? A man may know that nobody has insulted him, but that he has invented the insult for himself, has lied and exaggerated to make it picturesque, has caught at a word and made a mountain out of a molehill--he knows that himself, yet he will be the first to take offense, and will revel in his resentment till he feels great pleasure in it.”- ― Fyodor Dostoevsky, The Brothers Karamazov




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,318 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    Well I have no idea about elsewhere I just know from personal experience.

    I have one friend where both of them are working and it took 3 months to get somewhere to rent.

    I have a friend who moved to Australia and had a house straight away after getting off farm work.

    It is my personal experience that a young person from my city would find it easier to get accomadation in Australia then in the city they were born in.

    I can only imagine how much worse it is going to get.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,215 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Well you should because they are the biggest block of voters.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 478 ✭✭Run Forest Run


    The populace signed up for all of this madness years ago.

    I'm not a fan of our political class, but they are simply doing what they told us they were going to do many years ago... explode our population to ridiculous and unsustainable levels. And most people collectively shrugged their shoulders and went "sure crack on then, sounds like a plan!"

    And now we're seeing the reality of it on the ground in people's everyday lives... and people are up in arms about it. Perhaps people should pay more attention to what our leaders are planning for our collective future. Otherwise tough sh*t... you've got to live with the consequences of terrible ideas/plans!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,215 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    ..

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,067 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Algeria makes Franco's Spain look progressive.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,177 ✭✭✭Fandymo


    I’m sure they’d rather their “image” was destroyed in the eyes of the snobs, than the community destroyed at the hands of the government.

    Racist, far right, xenophobia all mean nothing now that the useless left have diluted them down to pathetic slurs against anyone that doesn’t agree with them. Years ago I would have been aghast at being called a racist, nowadays I know the people shouting it probably don’t even know what it means.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,067 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    "Don't make me angry proles, you won't like me when I'm angry,look at what you made me do".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    Glad you agree that it costs money to get here. And it ain't cheap either, thousands upon thousands to get here. This money, the majority of which usually ends up in the hands of cartels and other criminals. This strengthens their operations in escorting more migrants into Europe and also bolsters other criminal activity.

    Yes, we should become "spectacularly cruel" in order to discourage migration into Europe. The moneys spent on supporting migrants here through welfare, health and housing would be better spent on sorting out our own issues in health, housing, education and disability supports.

    We already commit big sums to foreign aid and it's time we got more creative with how that money is spent - perhaps diverting some of those funds into regime change in the third world as part of a joint EU/US mission would reap benefits. The time for a discussion on the third world is now.

    We cannot and should not be taking in any more migrants. There needs to be a "Marshall Plan" for these obviously failing states and I would support a complete abolition of national debt for said countries if they could prove to develop economically enough to make emigration from these states unattractive.

    Either way, it needs to stop.





  • Says it all really. The approach is completely fucked up. I don't know how anyone can say it isn't.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 478 ✭✭Run Forest Run


    It's going swimmingly if your overarching plan is to explode the population of the Island.... which it is.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,228 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,841 ✭✭✭TomTomTim


    NGO activist, and asylum seeker, known for stoking the flames, stokes the flames. It's a wonder why a man would want to leave the great progressive rainbow nation that is South Africa. They rebelled against white rule, only to come to the West to cry about Westerners again.

    “The man who lies to himself can be more easily offended than anyone else. You know it is sometimes very pleasant to take offense, isn't it? A man may know that nobody has insulted him, but that he has invented the insult for himself, has lied and exaggerated to make it picturesque, has caught at a word and made a mountain out of a molehill--he knows that himself, yet he will be the first to take offense, and will revel in his resentment till he feels great pleasure in it.”- ― Fyodor Dostoevsky, The Brothers Karamazov




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,800 ✭✭✭Padraig Mor


    Just goes to show the heart of the problem - that chap, Lucky Khambule of MASI, is yet another failed asylum seeker shyster, still here living it up on our money.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 478 ✭✭Run Forest Run


    Not enough people. A tiny fraction of our population gave enough of a sh*t to actually raise concerns... the rest simply shrugged their collective shoulders.

    The vast majority of people who are complaining now, are only doing so because the flood waters are washing up to their door. The stench is finally reaching their nostrils and they don't like it.

    You've got to be very naive not to realise that these consequences would be part and parcel of the process of dramatically enlarging the population of the island. And this is also why our politicians are not doing anything about it, THEY KNEW that all of this would happen... and they are fully committed to their plan. Disgruntled citizens and societal disharmony is all part and parcel of the process. They will hold their nose and keep going with the plan!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,365 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    you're right though, most people don't care as they are living comfortably in ireland. most people i know have a decent job and somewhere to live in ireland so some refugees in hotels aren't going to be a concern of theirs really, certainly not enough to protest. you'll probably be waiting a while until it becomes enough of a concern for a political party to have a tougher stance on immigration.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,228 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    6 year old girl inside the place in Ballymun terrified she would be shot.

    Women and children terrorised in their home.

    Shameful.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,365 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    are there actual women and children in there, people on this thread are saying it's just unvetted albanian and georgian fakeugees?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 417 ✭✭cal naughton


    Regarding the cost to get here. Since the vast majority of the recent arrivals are coming from London which has been openly admitted on numerous videos being circulated,it is very cheap to get here.

    Take a national express bus from London to Belfast for £47. Then train down to Dublin for €15.99 with no check's due the common travel area .

    Have a spot of lunch then claim asylum all within 24 hrs and less than €100.

    It's a great little country so it is.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Correct , sex attacks happen daily and are not deemed newsworthy



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,318 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    Where did the poster say it was a migrant specific problem?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,447 ✭✭✭AlanG


    Some may do but the landlords will be in for a shock if they are inspected by the council and forced to spend many thousands on upgrades. It's a huge risk to take given that you could be legally forced to do the upgrade work once you let someone move in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,365 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    it's like the 2 foreigners murdered in East Wall area by local youths in recent times. The locals didn't seem concerned for their safety then and I didn't hear of any protests, except from the Brazilian community wanting justice for Thiago.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,441 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Our population is not "unsustainable". 5m is actually quite small by European standards - people are speaking as if population growth in the country is some some sort of extreme and unwelcome aberration that needs to be stamped out (when any economist will tell you that population growth is normally a very healthy and encouraging sign).



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Awful, and the poor girl stabbed in the throat for giggles . Also the daily attacks on food delivery cyclists that are not even reported anymore



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,177 ✭✭✭Fandymo




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