Enoch Burke turns up to school again despite sacking - read OP before posting

You see some of the exact same posters on such classic threads as "Fall of the Catholic Church" (65 pages), commenting on almost every page.

Of course it helps here that Burke is mostly or wholly in the wrong.

Maybe he thought the policies were just there for show and wouldn't actually be applied?

No I don't want people to be silenced.

But I observe a lot of your and others' posting as being mostly negative and oppositional.

You don't offer any new or inspiring vision of life yourself. You're against theism and the mores of the past and all your energy seems to be spent on that.

What comes next after you've demolished all your opponents?

The school escalated the situation 😂😂

Utter horsesh!te

Every time I read about or see a picture of this guy I cant help but be reminded of Mr Logic from Viz.

I wonder why the court order is not being enforced?

If an ordinary ‘Joe’ disregarded a court order I’m confident they would be in trouble

Where does this issue stand now as surely we can’t have a situation where court orders are ignored?

AFAIK the school have to reactivate the order by going back to court.

They haven't, one would assume is because they want the hearing to take place and they want this weasel permanently off the payroll.

It does raise questions though, why this guy hasn't long been charged with criminal contempt or criminal trespass is a complete and utter mystery.

It's up to the school to take steps to have it enforced, and when and how fast to do that is a tactical decision for them. Anasopra has pointed to considerations which might lead the school to think that right now they are better off exploring other avenues first.

It looks very much as though Burke wants to be returned to prison; it's not necessarily in the school's best interests to rush to indulge him in that.

Prison is no deterrent for him. It wouldn't surprise me if he wishes he was back in there, where he can continue to be a martyr. It's obvious that the plan is for the school to hold its rescheduled disciplinary hearing now that he's out of prison, and put an end to this saga. He's happy to go back to prison, yet for some reason he's desperate to stop the hearing going ahead...

I think many posters here think this case/ issue is about transgenderism and they frame it that way in their minds, which biases them. But it's not about transgenderism, that was merely the trigger.

This case/ issue is about a teacher who disagreed with a development of school policy on the basis of his religious views. It's about a row that developed between the teacher and the principal as a result and his subsequent suspension which has led to this. I suspect Burke rightly wants the issue heard in the courts whilst the school wishes to avoid the courts if at all possible.

Instead of Burke and transgenderism, let's suppose this was one of the teachers mentioned above who are atheists or from a different religion and yet who are obliged to offer religious instruction in a Catholic national school. Let's suppose they have Burke's guts and principles and went to the principal/ BOM/ parish priest and say 'I'm not going to teach this *insert word of choice* to the children anymore'. Let's suppose a row develops, words are exchanged, the teacher is suspended and refuses to comply. How would people view that? I'm thinking there are many here who decry Burke but who would be cheering this other principled teacher to the rafters.

This is how the case should be viewed imho, why the school was unwise to suspend Burke and why they don't want this coming near the courts.

I think many posters here think this case/ issue is about transgenderism

Nope, just you, a few others and the Burkes.

and disciplinary sanction is exactly what the school have done. He hasn't been sacked. The disciplinary hearing will decide his faith, as it should. Burke has done his best to stymie that process. He doesn't think he has done anything wrong.

Your argument just gets shakier and weaker. One person's disagreement is another's row is another's abuse. These are all questions of degree and interpretation. Who hasn't had a row and let things get out of hand a bit in terms of what was said? As far as we know, Burke did not physically assault the principal or anyone else. The principal/ school should have anticipated what could happen once they suspended him, that's what set the current train of events in motion.