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Civil Service - Post Lockdown - Blended Working?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 112 ✭✭Avenger2020


    Hi Gadgetman99, I have sent you a PM.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 112 ✭✭Avenger2020


    How wud you rate them for promotions in a few years? Is it better to say I worked in DPER or D Finance? Because DPER was born out of D Finance I always view it as lesser than D Finance…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,682 ✭✭✭✭billyhead


    It doesn't matter what dept you worked in tbh. It's all about the competencies and the examples you give. An interview board couldn't care less what dept you worked in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43 CivilServantCP


    Some departments have competitions internally more than others though yeah?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,266 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    Not really... They should be having internal competitions at some point before they've exhausted existing internal panels. If they're following the 1:1:1 internal/open/inter-departmental model (as they will for the most part) then over time they should all be roughly equal.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 211 ✭✭Kirbi


    I'm not sure about fully internal comps, but PER is still in the group of Depts for AP and PO higher scale comps (with Finance and Toiseach - and possibly DFA?, and run internally among the group).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭is that a button


    Happy New Year Everyone! 😊🎆... I know people have just returned to work but I am wondering if any of you (EO's & AO's) have received updates regarding your work from home situation for the coming year? Specifically those of you working with Revenue (outside Dublin). I am conscious of media reports regarding increasing Covid numbers & I am wondering if there is going to be a general requirement for full time office attendance regardless, or if a work from home option will be fully exercised should Covid numbers continue to escalate. (Yes, I am a huge fan of work from home!! as I detest my daily commute!)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,628 ✭✭✭Augme



    COVID is very unlikely to have any impact on wfh policies or general guidance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 460 ✭✭skidmarkoner


    Does revenue not offer a blended working approach?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,032 ✭✭✭adelcrowsmel


    Yes I thought that some people on this thread were saying that Revenue were offering one of the best blended working policies...with some sections only asking staff to attend as little as once a month or once a fortnight?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,266 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    Yes, Revenue have blended working available in most areas. In the October survey I ran, there were 13 responses from Revenue staff. Blended working was kicking in from 1st October. Most staff who responded are on either 1 day in the office, 4 WFH; or 2 days in the office, 3 WFH. This will vary from section to section - e.g., some jobs/areas will require more physical attendance.

    Flexi is available to those who had it before; and you can work up time while WFH.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 819 ✭✭✭Foggy Jew


    It's still annoying that staff in some Departments are allowed to work up flexi time whilst WFH and others are not.

    It's the bally ballyness of it that makes it all seem so bally bally.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 632 ✭✭✭squidgainz


    Some management don't trust their employees and some do so I can see why you'd be annoyed!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,032 ✭✭✭adelcrowsmel


    As far as I know anyone that is allowed to accrue flexi time while wfh is part of a trial and then a decision is to be made across the board on it. That's what our Union reps told us anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,266 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    Yup, it's a trial. Organisations were given two (or three?) options: Flexi including the ability to work up time when WFH; Flexi but you can only work up time while in the office; (and possibly no flexi at all if availing of blended working was the third option?). I'm not sure how long the trial is supposed to last.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,481 ✭✭✭✭shmeee


    Does anyone have the mobility map to hand? The gov.ie site won't load the map the last few days now. The areas are now all zones since I last looked at it. And can't work out which zone is which.

    Many thanks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 686 ✭✭✭EarWig




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43 CivilServantCP


    Another week of commutes during weather warnings. Seems needless to me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,266 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid



    It's only a Yellow warning, ffs.

    Weather that does not pose a threat to the general population but is potentially dangerous on a localised scale.

    Possibility of snowflakes, though...

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 938 ✭✭✭crinkley


    I had an in person meeting cancelled this morning because of the ice by someone who lives 20 mins away with plenty of public transport options but didn’t want to drive, thankfully I scheduled other meetings today so my commute to the office and train ticket isn’t completely wasted. It’s not even bad some people take these helpful warnings and act like it’s the end of the world



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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,857 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    The worst thing they ever done was these color warnings, people are over cautious now. Roads were perfectly fine this morning and Im out the sticks on bad roads.



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    Yeh the weather warnings are zero reason not to travel in. That's someone who didn't want to go in on a Monday morning.

    Any reason why the "in person" meeting had to be "in person"?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,266 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    Good question. Most in-person meetings could have been online. (Most meetings could be a phone call. Most phone calls could be an email.)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 938 ✭✭✭crinkley


    it involved actually physical files maps etc that had to be gone through etc so only in person in this case



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,845 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    RTE traffic news had reports of two separate crashes delaying traffic on the M50 this morning, so I'm not sure everyone would agree that the roads were perfectly fine. Not everyone drives either, so patches of ice can be particularly dangerous for those cycling or walking, even to the bus stop.

    This week is a great week to make use of WFH infrastructure.



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,857 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    There is always crashes delaying traffic on the M50, its Ireland in the winter, this is the weather we get and everyone goes into meltdown when these "warnings" go out. Also the M50 is main infrastructure so was more than likely gritted last night/this morning so there shouldn't be too big an issue. The real issue is with people still racing around like idiots in this weather when a little bit more care is required.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,845 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Yes, there are always crashes, but I don't recall hearing about two separate crashes delaying traffic at the same time recently. And yes, poor driving is a major root cause, but that's not going to change any time soon.

    I certainly wouldn't be arguing with any staff who chose to WFH for the next few days.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,349 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    Jesus Andrew its a yellow warning. I thought you were against WFH as you are not adequately compensated. Were those 2 crashes due to road conditions or people not taking care due to condition. I know plenty who walk and cycle during a yellow warning and with extra care manage.


    How did we even manage before Blended time. No wonder people snicker at public sector workers at been sheltered and soft at times



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,845 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    I'm against forced WFH or expected WFH, bit of a different story completely.

    It's nothing to do with public sector. I know of two private sector family members who have decided to WFH today given the conditions (one cyclist, one bus user).

    I don't see what the problem is. Are we supposed to be showing some macho tough guy image to impress someone? It's not hard to slip while walking and break an ankle or slip off a bike and break a collarbone on a patch of ice. There was definitely ice patches out this morning between 8-9am.

    With all the WFH infrastructure in place, it makes perfect sense for people to minimise risk.



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