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Harry and Meghan

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 632 ✭✭✭squidgainz


    How have I disrespected them? And when have I ever said it's not their right? Why don't you just keep pretending whatever you wanted me to say and talk about that. Cos that's what your doing



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,647 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    I’m deluded, beyond deluded and now insane? And I’m the offensive poster? Gotcha.

    William angry? No idea. But if he is, does this prove that the RF are in panic station mode and are being devastated by Harry’s book tales?

    seriously, stop searching and wanting things to be bad for people. It’s not healthy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,542 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    You hear more about them because you probably consume British media by choice.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 632 ✭✭✭squidgainz


    On this topic Walshb , I don't think you are any of them as a person. If you don't think Harry and Meghan have hurt the RF ,you are wrong. Literally just wrong. The absolute hypocrisy of that last statement. My lord.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 632 ✭✭✭squidgainz


    Yes they have been entertaining recently, very very funny.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,542 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    You just said you don't respect any royal family.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 632 ✭✭✭squidgainz


    Course I don't. It's an absolute daft concept still going on . I love a bitta democracy me. Mad for the stuff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,596 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Regardless of what joy some people get from seeing him attack the royal family, in reality he’s just another human being imploding, due to events and circumstances of his past, but doing so on a very public world stage-

    even before the book has been officially published, I’m beginning to feel uncomfortable for him in some mad way- leave aside the royal titles, the entitlement and the wealth- you’re left with a very sad pathetic individual, likely heavily controlled and manipulated by very experienced people in the marketing and publishing world and of course egged on by his own wife, who obviously has her own long term agenda.

    The RF will actually survive this - once all the stories from the book and TV interviews are disected which will be no more than another 1-2 weeks, he’ll leave the front page and life will resume as normal in good olde Blighty - I think that’s the point where he’ll realise, he’s prostrated himself in front of millions, but actually, nothing is going to change- if he has any self awareness left, he’s going to feel quite stupid at that point.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,647 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Are you happy because you feel a family have been hurt?

    To pretty much most people here the only person damaging anything and anyone is Harry to himself. Chap appears to have become so consumed with a bitterness and a jealousy that he’s self destructed.

    but to you, and some others, who desperately want the RF to be hurt, you cling to childish and silly telltaling and want to spin it all to suit the anti RF agenda.

    You’re in a small minority here thinking Harry’s book tales are damaging the RF.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 632 ✭✭✭squidgainz


    I find it all hilarious, that's my stance on it. So so funny. I think your last point is wrong. Harry's book has and will of course damage the RF. You have a pro royal agenda, so anything that's been said about anyone bar Harry and Meghan you have defended to the hilt. William attacking Harry you have said is nothing , nothing to see here. Philip having an affair and dreaming about wanting to be a tampon again nothing , nothing to see here.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,647 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    But I will say this. I would think Harry’s father (as a father and grandfather) is absolutely hurting in seeing his son so bitter and in self-destruct mode.

    William, as a brother may be disappointed and angry with Harry, but like Charles, sad to see that his brother (who he was quite close to) has become so bitter and in self-destruct mode.

    you know, normal human behaviours and feelings.

    but Harry’s tales are damaging nothing but Harry.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,542 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    But your previous post contradicted that.

    Ah anyway! Not much more to say.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,647 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    You do realize that RF have very very little say and power in the lives of democratic Britain, yes? They co-exist. Britain is absolutely a democracy. RF are far more a symbol than anything else.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 632 ✭✭✭squidgainz


    Yes but having a president is more democratic than having a RF, you do know this?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 632 ✭✭✭squidgainz


    They are definitely damaging Harry the most , but to say the other actors image in all this haven't been damaged is lunacy of the highest order. The highest order I say!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,596 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    I need mind bleach desperately after reading that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,647 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Your point is completely irrelevant. Britain is absolutely a democracy. People in Britain are set up as democratic. RF are simply servants of their people. Owned by the people. They have next to no power to influence. In modern Britain the RF are more a symbol, tourist attraction and a tool that Britain uses.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 632 ✭✭✭squidgainz


    It's not irrelevant at all to me. It is why I don't respect royal families, I don't respect hereditary power. They aren't voted in. Our president is more of a symbol too and we get to vote who we want that symbol to be. You can't say it's not relevant because I was discussing with another poster why I don't respect royal families. I've no idea what you can reply against this post. It's simply my opinion that I don't respect royal families because of their undemocratic nature. That's all. That and Willy has a circumcised Willy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,647 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Damaged how?

    Only shallow and ignorant people take tales and stories from one side to see this as true and damaging to the other side.

    You’re alone here as regards me and you. You are delighted to think and feel that his stories and tales are hurting people. Me? I see it as simply a bitter and angry man trying to hurt his family. A sad sight, for him, and him alone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 632 ✭✭✭squidgainz


    People are thinking less and less of the RF. The institution in my opinion is being damaged. You don't think that at all , you think it's business as usual and they are just having a quiet chuckle about it all. Fair enough, I think you are incorrect.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,596 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    While there was a level of private disclosure about instances involving other immediate family, which obviously naturally hurt Charles and William as human beings, the rest of the book is just one own goal after the other.

    Even some of the TV reports I’m seeing are coming to that conclusion- they’re not really pushing for a response from Buckingham palace- they are seeing this as a tragic tale of someone they actually liked and respected in the past- there’s no winners here but Harry by far, is the biggest loser.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,647 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Oh, and you have some magic measuring tool to ascertain how his tales are damaging the RF?

    people are thinking less and less of the RF based off a member trying to dish dirt?

    did you ever think it possible, that his bitterness and anger and spilling personal family details could actually see more folks siding with and sympathising with the RF?

    you see, there are always two sides. You coming from a clearly anti RF side, where anything g to possibly hurt them you lap up. But plenty people, who are on no side, and who have no like or dislike for RF, could well see this as Harry being a cu&t, and that the RF are well rid of him.

    I don’t see why at all his telltaling could be just the support the RF may get now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 632 ✭✭✭squidgainz


    And you have some magic measuring tool to say they aren't being damaged? Harry is also part of the royal family ,once their most popular member. So of course there being damaged, I got ya there Walshy. Are you saying you are part of the plenty of people on no side? Hahahahah



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,338 ✭✭✭✭jm08


    So this isn't damaging the British monarchy in your opinion? Whats all the fuss about then?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,647 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Anyway: back to basics. Meghan thought she was joining a family, a family she had always wanted. This was evident in the Netflix series.

    But the RF, albeit a family, are first and foremost an institution, guided by and driven by rules, traditions and protocol. Harry, of course always knew this. He marries, they blend in and Meghan wants to do her own thing..

    and here we are. With Harry, alone, and still swinging punches like a drunk outside a late night fast food joint. All the rest is just childish drivel.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 21,916 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    This article sums it up nicely, Harry is lashing out at playing second fiddle.


    This dynamic plays out on a much smaller scale in families - oldest/youngest sibling, favourite child/black sheep etc. But the article does make a very valid point, there has to be a purpose for the "spare" and they should be removed from royal life once the heir has children. Being kept in the wings as a backup plan in case your older sibling dies isn't going to do much for the self-esteem or well-being of any child. Princess Margaret was reported to have struggled too and was an alcoholic by all accounts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,899 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    Minimal if any damage and nothing that wont be forgotten this time next year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,647 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    The fuss is all about Harry. RF are completely silent.. it’s all Harry , and from what I’ve seen, all negative. So, the damage is all Harry self-inflicted.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,596 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Even aside from the sexual assault allegations, we can see what an absolute entitled d1ck Andrew became as a result of his once second in line status and how being retired from Royal duties and playing dress up has upset him greatly 😀

    I hope William is taking notes when it comes to his family but it’s actually daft this whole royalty business if you look at it in plain light of day- what does a child have go through in early life to prepare him or her to be king or queen one day- and how does it feel to go on that journey? that’s a book I’d actually buy to read if it were written by an actual king or queen



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