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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,581 ✭✭✭Cordell




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,574 ✭✭✭rogber


    Would love to watch but seems it's inaccessible outside the UK as it's BBC. Anyone know if it's been posted on an internationally accessible platform?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭pcardin


    Best way to uncover ruSSian fascist supporter is to wind them up, and as we can see here, it worked. And your "Last time I checked..." line clearly displays the only sources you worship and trust - ruSSian propaganda. And yes, ruSSia is a nazi/fascist regime. Always was. Soviet Union regime was too, except when you are a victor nobody will punish you. This time ruSSia is a loser and will be punished. Anyway, you are not fooling anyone here. Every next post you scribble cements what ambro25 already pointed out. So do us a favor, mobilize yourself.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    Your overlords declared that they destroyed 35 out of 20 HIMARS. So they couldn’t have destroyed what no longer existed. You’re so deep in Russian propaganda that you are drowning, but too clueless to realise it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,581 ✭✭✭Cordell


    One of the things that need constant reminding is that Russia have never been a democracy. They went from being a kingdom to a communist autocracy to the oligarchy of today. And all throughout their history freedom and people never really mattered, not their own and certainly not others. They cannot be trusted with anything they say or they do. They will never be a partner for the EU like the US is.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭pcardin


    I bet he/she feels like a crusade on a holly mission who traveled over seven seas, lands, and mountains to register themselves on this "unknown, never seen before" Irish website that that they didn't know was Irish (.ie) to preach the holly truth about nazi Ukraine, 8 years Bambas dombili, bad Amurica, and so on, only to be amused and shocked how the pagans here are not opened to their messages. Shock shock, horror!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 877 ✭✭✭eoinbn


    Care to put a figure on 'about'? They are still in a war and the outcome of it is far from certain.

    Your red mist caused you to totally missed the point of my reply. I was replying to someone that was saying that Europe wasn't giving enough financially compared to the US. The whole picture needs to be looked at, not just the direct aid figures.

    4th? That is fantasy figures. Ukraine isn't even in the top 10 of countries with PROVEN resources.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,458 ✭✭✭zv2


    Yanukovych was a Russian agent so there was nothing illegal about getting rid of him. Russia started the war in East Ukraine so it's their fault.

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭pcardin


    Careful! For this post you might receive hundreds of 'thanks' from all the rouble sluts here as it is what they believe in. 🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    You seem to think that we are a bunch of uninformed gobshytes, probably living with pigs in our outhouses. If you are from the USA as you say, then you are sheltered from the immediate effects of this war. How many Ukrainian refugees are landing on your doorstep for example? Are your children finding it hard to get rented accommodation and paying rent increases as the squeeze comes on your housing market due to rapidly expanding immigration?

    In normal times you'll find a bit of healthy scepticism here of US foreign policy but when it comes to the rights for democracy and war on your doorstep, there is little place for the sort of anti US, anti NATO crap you want to peddle. As Europeans, we have watched Russia over the last decade flexing it's muscle and subjugating it's neighbours. There came a point reached last February when enough was enough and Europe and the rest of the 'western world' has taken the pain and backed Ukraine in it's mighty efforts to put the oppressor back in it's box.

    So we'll take our news from multiple sources than you very much and make up our own minds. No room for the likes of you.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Captain sidorenko received her award from "Daddy" though she seems unsure what she's getting the award for..





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,136 ✭✭✭Akabusi


    You bring a smile to my face comrade. Why would we even think you are a re-reg - Then proceeds to peddle the exact same tripe. Like before, I love all the links you provide to back up your claims too. Keep fighting the good fight for your fascist brethren.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭deirdremf


    I've no opinion on Mar53, but a lot of people who do not show unconditional support for Ukraine on this thread have been attacked at a personal level, myself included. Frequently the personal attacks are quite vicious, such as post 74525 and another down below.

    I'd guess that there are a lot more dubious posters fully supporting Ukraine than otherwise. While I hear plenty of people supporting Ukraine in normal life, I have never heard anything near the level of hatred for Russia expressed that I see here. There are some sick posters who joke about multiple deaths on the Russian side, even saying that the individual soldiers deserve it - when we all know that they are mostly young kids mobilised and probably too terrified to go against the power of their own state.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭pcardin


    You would think they could use a different actor for every occasion in a country of 140 mil, but hey, this is what schizophrenia does, can't trust anyone. 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,439 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    They can usually be recognised when asked about what their plans for peace are and either spin off ranting about US/NATO and how poor russia were forced to attack or slink off, tail between their piggy legs.

    What are your plans for achieving peace, incidentally?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭deirdremf


    He was certainly pro-Russian, as apparently around half the population of Ukraine were at the time; you know - all those people who voted for him in a democratic election.

    By your logic though, Zelensky, being pro-western, must be a western agent, so a coup against him would be perfectly justified. Maybe even a war?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,676 ✭✭✭Rawr


    He had several comments to reply to yesterday, and went to my argument why we'd probably think he was a re-reg. Then proceeds to ingore the 2 other possibilites I mentioned to get indignant about the very idea of being a re-reg. Gonna guess he's a re-reg.

    FFS Orwell Road...you need to do better then this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,456 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    But did half the population really vote for him ,

    I remember one of his promises was removing the Russian naval base in svastaspol and returning it to the Ukrainan military,

    Instead before he left power he stole billons belongings to the people of Ukraine and extended the contract to keep Russia in svastaspol.....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    That was a waste of key strokes.

    Let me see you have alternative views on ukraine, would corruption and neo Nazi's be part of that, along with the CIA and Nato, putin was forced to do what he did ???



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,011 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    If you didn't endlessly parrot Putin's talking points and propaganda perhaps you wouldn't have to act the victim of it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,777 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Whether you call it a 'coup', I call legitimate democratic process.

    But what matters is that Russia, in clear violation of Budapest Agreement, threatened economic blockade and consequences to Ukraine if they signed the EU trade treaty.

    Under this pressure, and perhaps other threats or inducements from Russia, Yanukovych did not sign the treaty, in clear violation of his democratic mandate and will of the Ukrainian people and parliament, and then brutally suppressed the protests. To state that half the population were pro-Russian is therefore completely false, unless you can somehow be pro-Russian and pro-EU at the same time!

    The war started because the Ukrainian people refused to accept Russia's attempts to reduce it to a client state like Belarus, whether through corruption, economic war or outright war. With Yanukovych as the Lukashenko equivalent lapdog stooge.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭deirdremf


    What are your plans for achieving peace, incidentally?

    You go first ...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭pcardin


    You need to understand that there is quite a number of nations who already experienced the so called "Russkiy Mir" and 'freedom' that was forced on them, something they never asked for. Many of these countries/nations have the hatred towards russkis for about a century and it is a valid one, and this hatred only got stronger when nazi ruSSia attacked Ukraine. russians as a nation is scum, always were, and will be probably for another few generations. So when a poster comes and peddles the ruSSian propaganda bs to readers from countries that suffered from this before, of course reception will not be welcoming.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,136 ✭✭✭Akabusi


    But they do deserve it, they are in another country raping and killing. If they are not killed they will keep raping and kiiling. Do you follow the news, have you heard about Bucha and numerous other atrocities? If someone came into your house and started raping and murdering your family would you be understanding about it?

    If they didn't want to be mobilised they should have left the country beforehand. There are instances reported where troops have refused to fight or have sabotaged their equipment and surrendered - I salute these people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,011 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Yanukovych was Putin's puppet, he was voted for, but in a system that was heavily meddled with by Russia. When the extent of his corruption was exposed, the Ukrainian people had enough and marched against him. He used special police to murder protesters, police who, like Yanukovych, were whisked back to the motherland when things went south. He's wanted by multiple countries. He was wheeled out by the Russians during the invasion in order to lead their newly conquered territory, but had to do a U-turn when things their third Reich style invasion didn't go as planned.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭deirdremf


    But did half the population really vote for him

    I said "around half the population".

    48.95% according to Wikipedia, here's a map.

    I'm not too sure where or what svastaspol is.

    You seem to have all the attack points from the manual lined up there, well done.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,546 ✭✭✭Gerry T


    Its very hard for anyone to defend the Russian position. In broad brush strokes they invaded another country and now millions are displaced and hundreds of thousands are dead or injured. Meanwhile Russian state laughs at the idea of Europe freezing without their Oil/Gas.

    In this you have an aggressor and a defender, if you have been following this thread for months now we have had new members posting this "whataboutery" argument, basically saying the reason Ukrainian people are dying is because they won't let Russia take over their country.

    I'm sure if someone wants to support Russia on this thread, they would be welcome, but they would need to come up with a strong argument and back it up with creditable sources. They probably would still get a rough time, that's because behind all this real people are dying, lives are being destroyed, the Russians are the reason.

    If any Russian soldier wants out, they only need put up a white flag and walk East or get out of Russia before they get drafted. If any Russian soldier wants to stop raping men, women and children they can. Once in Ukraine they are fair game to be shot, and that is to be celebrated, how else can you beat the Russians back to Russia. Whats your solution ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭deirdremf


    I don't parrot any of Putin's talking points or propaganda, as I don't listen to him or read his propaganda.

    Let's not get our knickers in a twist, okay? Economic blockade is an unpleasant thing without a doubt, but it seems to be a long-standing political tool around the world, and many powerful states use/have used it. I could point to the economic blockade of Gaza, for instance, or of Venezuela or Cuba. Sanctions are and have been used against a wide range of countries.

    As for Yanukovich reneging on an election platform, I suppose he is the only person ever to do so ...



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    If you don't know maybe stick to something you do know,

    So far you gave us iraq , Afghanistan, CIA,

    And Wikipedia.

    Seems you have no real interest in Ukraine or the current situation in ukraine for the last 9 months or the last 14 years even,

    So your point is what.

    Come in here make a post and Play the victim when you don't get the response you like



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