Liverpool FC Team Talk, Gossip, Rumours 2024/25

Bar the 10 mins at the start of the game and the 20 mins after HT, that was dreadful.

Playing well in dribs and drabs instead of sustaining wave after wave of pressure - something which was the identify of peak Klopp Liverpool no matter who played - Gini Hendo Fabinho Milner Keita Thiago Ox Jones no matter who played in midfield, there was intensity and sustained pressure. Off of the ball, they were compact and protected the back 4 excellently, both centrally and out wide. One of those players named was brilliant in this very fixture last season. Scoring what should have been the winner but the midfield fell apart when he went off. And that's just to give an example to show that they are all capable of it. All of those midfielders named have given top performances for the club, in the biggest competitions too. Even when the kids played in the league cup, the identity was still there and they played like the first team players did - I remember the maturity posts on here at the time.

Where is this gone to?

We are so pedestrian now. What are our tactics? Slow build up, side to side passing and work it around the middle before getting the full backs to hit a diagonal? There's no penetration now. No runs in behind bar Nunez. Salah is staying too wide and is being used far too much in the build up instead of being on the end of things. There is no 3rd man runs from midfield even if it is just a decoy run or to create some different passing angels. Keita was the only midfielder to do this tonight and actually tried to create something with 1:2s driving at the defence trying to create an opening. Didn't work out but he offered more going forwards than the other 3 did tonight.

Elliot. Terrible again tonight. Offers nothing in defence and he cost the game with that ridiculous step over to let the ball run. Not the place or time to do it. He should learn from this but should not see a league game for a while to rectify it. Keita has to take his place now, contract dispute or no contract dispute. Play for a new one.

Selecting Elliott tonight is on Klopp. Maybe he has an assistant or a coach or a sports scientist in his ear telling him that player X and Y can't play for 60 mins, but the buck stops with Klopp. Fabinho Thiago Elliott are getting caught out all season with runs in behind them, especially Elliot and Fabinho. Physical midfielders can dominate Elliott and Thiago with pace and power which exposed Fabinho and the defence. What are Brentford known for? Set pieces and physicality. Don't pick Elliot. He was the big weak link. Put Ox in midfield if you have to. Start Keita. Switch to a diamond if needs be. You've done it before like. The result was being run past too easily.

What was actually worked on over the break cos I can tell you what wasn't. F******g midfield solidity and compactness.

Carragher pretty much right there. 3 new midfielders required and the club probably have to go out and spend 200M.

Said it earlier that it's incompetence that no midfielder bought, there was no fight and no passion there at all, Brentford to be fair were excellent, I'd go as far as to say we need a defender and 2 midfielders this month and at least another midfielder in summer, Jones doesn't cut it, naby too weak and toothless, Elliot and carvalho not ready. It's been said but this is on klopp/pep, and you can see pep is having more of an influence, if this is what lays in wait when klopp leaves I'd nearly prefer Gerrard to take over. They had 6/7 weeks to try to reinvent the way we play line up a few players, absolute shambles way club has gone about its business.

Not absolving defence here but how can they preform as previous with no protection..

Chequebook needs to be brought out and fast

I was reading somewhere that he didn't sign for us last summer because of problems with a work permit. Not sure how he then managed to sign for wolves. Probably no truth in it anyway

I just see no reason not to adapt to the situation, away at Brentford. Get the upper hand, tactically .

Time for FSG to invest in the first team ... 2-3 midfielders needed

We need to win something

We can't take the FA Cup lightly

I'd love for games like today where they play 2 up top and go direct that we could have the flexibility to go 3 at the back ,

We seem to have only one way of playing and that's it there's no second option

You could even start Gomez as the 3rd CB so if you have to you can change to 4 at the back without making a sub

If u watch City right now the play change from 3 to 4 seamlessly with making subs it adds another dimension,

Losing Mane has really effect ability to press effectively so high up

Oh it's Nunes not Neves from earlier. Clearly I can't read 😁

FA Cup is a distraction now

Robbo trying to rally the team together made me feel really sad for a number of reasons.

The old team wouldn't have let a situation like that happen, and if they were up against it, they wouldn't need to be motivated by a speech, they would drag themselves back into it, think of all the late winners against the likes of Newcastle, Everton, the barca game etc.

You look at the lads in that picture, the likes of Jones, Keita and Nunez would never have made the team in the days when Gini, Bobby, Hendo and Mane were at their best.

Age and recruitment are part of the problem but it's not the whole thing - I saw VVD and Hendo going flat out for their countries a few weeks ago - back in a red shirt now and they look like different players. Teams target VVD now, we saw that tonight. He talks a great game, sure, but doesn't back it up on the pitch.

Hopefully they can follow Uniteds 4-0 hammering by Brentford and use it to spur on change

Sadly I think not. United after that match had a much greater capacity to change than we currently do. They were only two or three games into the tenure of a new manager and a very different brand of football. We’re stuck in a bit of a rut with one of the best managers the league has ever seen but he’s set in his ways, to a fault at times.

It’s necessary to accept that we aren’t going to radically change our style of play while Klopp is in charge. When it works, nobody can beat us, but along with the lack of energy in the current team and the injury problems that seem to plague us every year at this point, you just get the impression that quite a few teams have us well sussed out. That doesn’t guarantee them a victory over us in any given match, but it means the players usually have to play to the absolute peak of their abilities unless our system changes.

Even a flawed system can work with perfection in its execution, but we’re such a long way from perfection at the minute that we’re understandably hoping for a system that’s more effective and relies less on individual quality.

For a couple of years, we had both the most effective system and execution. Now, we appear to have neither. That’s the crux of the issue IMO.

Nunes played for Sporting Lisbon this season, and Wolves. So he won't be joining in the January window. You can't play for 3 clubs in the same season. I think that article above says that it is for a summer transfer though anyways, maybe just looking for an agreement now.