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The Great Big Lawnmower Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,660 ✭✭✭deezell


    Check out the 44" cut Viking I referenced three posts back. With up to three acres to cut, and a slope to overcome, you'll need the width and the power of the V twin engine. Viking, now Stihl, are among the most robustly engineered lawnmowers, certainly a class above some if the flimsier budget models of the GGP stable, such as earlier Castelgardens, and Mountfield. If its not already sold, it would be a good buy at a price a bit south of the asking.

    https://www.donedeal.ie/gardenequipment-for-sale/ride-on-lawnmower/31970881



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]



    Thanks for the info and the link. Interesting. It looks nice, and the only thing I know about lawnmowers is get a Briggs and Stratton engine! I'm a long way from Drogheda and will see if there's anything similar in Kerry/Cork. I take it from the recommendation you're saying Viking, around 50" deck and 600cc+ is what I should look for?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,660 ✭✭✭deezell


    The largest domestic cut mower is generally 127cm, 48". The viking/stihl 6127zl occasionally shows up for sale, but not very often. Its a huge cut, balloon tyres and 22hp v twin engine. I bought mine used in 2018, oddly enough in Kerry, where I travelled to from North Kildare. It was worth pulling a trailer for, but you can arrange a van for something like this at a price.

    I'm only seeing these new for sale, about €6200. There are a few 5112 44" around, like the one I linked, some with smaller engine.

    If you want 50", you're into semi commercial. The countax triple blade 50"A25-50HE is mighty, don't know if there's a dealer here, maybe in NI, but you'll have small change from €10k.

    The best big cut used in your €1-2k budget near you is probably this 43" John Deere in Galway https://www.donedeal.ie/gardenequipment-for-sale/lawn-mower/31979356

    Start visiting your nearest dealers. Tbh, any ride on above 97cm cut would be a vast improvement on a walk behind, but if you extend to the full 3 acres, it would still be a long day in the saddle.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Thanks so much for all the help and info...and for finding another ad. Spent 9 hours yesterday hauling a heavy gate in a trailer so Drogheda has come back into consideration!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,660 ✭✭✭deezell


    You're welcome. Just seen this Stihl 48"/127cm on Donedeal. 4 seasons old, 125 hrs mowing which is about average for mowing 2 acres over 7 months of a season. Price a bit high. This mower currently available for €6300 list https://www.donedeal.ie/gardenequipment-for-sale/stihl-ride-on-mower-rt-6127/32071826. , so I'd expect a depreciation of .8x.9.x.9x.9, 58% valuing it at about €3700 from a dealer but with no warranty from a private seller, you might offer less. If you were interested in having a look, Mullingar on the way to Drogheda if you go via Tullamore. Good hunting.



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]



    Again, thanks for that. I don't want to take up more of your time, and you've been very helpful so far...but my wife is asking why don't I get a robot mower. I just assumed that a ride on would be more appropriate for 3 acres with slopes, trees, tricky access between various sections...it about as far from the neat flat bowling green as is possible. Is that a fair assumption?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,660 ✭✭✭deezell


    It is if your budget is €2K. Big robot mowers out there, they'll cover 3 acres, not so sure of the rough ground. €12_14K. https://www.stokker.com/robotic-lawnmower-l400i-b-30ah-4g-ambrogio-c-am450b4y1z-amb



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Oh wow! Well that's the end of that line of enquiry! Thanks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,155 ✭✭✭Zardoz


    I said I'd try the machine again at the weekend before returning it and what do you know she fired up straight away.

    Worked perfectly and another cut today fine too.

    Not really sure what the issue was, but hopefully it has rectified itself.😊



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭thebackbar


    Roughly does anyone know how much it would cost to replace a briggs and stratton 675 engine on a push mower ?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,660 ✭✭✭deezell




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭thebackbar


    i can't find the model number on it, but afaik its a castlegarden with a 52 inch deck, any idea on the labour cost ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,660 ✭✭✭deezell


    A 52" Castelgarden would be a decent deck, worth the cost of an engine swap. I've no idea what dealers would charge, it should be about an hours work. Is it self drive? Popping off the blade, blade boss and pulley might be the stickiest task. Engine is held to the deck by 3-4 bolts, after that its the engine off switch cable, and possible throttle cable. That's it. If you're paying a dealer, ask for the price including the engine. He should be able to source that at trade, invoice the whole job at repair rate of VAT at 13.5%.

    Find a reliable decent shop. He might even have a serviceable used engine, a lot of these are fitted to junky cheap decks, the engines outlast the mower by years. Heres a guy selling two for €20 each, good engines, scrap decks. http://www.adverts.ie/27814658



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]



    I put in a bid of 2k on this. They said no...but I'll wait. It's been up on DD almost 3 weeks now, I figure a lot of people may be thinking more about other costs this winter, and I'm guessing the market is stronger in spring...

    https://www.donedeal.ie/gardenequipment-for-sale/viking-mt5112z/32037652?campaign=23



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,660 ✭✭✭deezell


    A dealer is not going to entertain an offer so far below asking. These mowers are about €4600 new, in the new Stihl colours, but with the Stihl own brand engine. This viking has the Briggs V twin. A four year/season old 5112Z is worth about €2,700, a bit more if sold by a dealer with a warranty. €2000 would be the value of a 7 season old machine. The ad doesn't give the age or hours worked, but it looks immaculate. If it's 4 years old or has mowed low hours, its probably priced well. A realistic offer might be 10% below asking if you're not trading in, a longer warranty, say end of next season, a free service next year. These machines don't come up that often, and in that condition.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 LV-426


    Can anyone comment on maximum slope which a ride on mower can cope with?

    Is the issue with slopes a power/traction issue or a safety issue with the possibility of overturning when turning the mower?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,299 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    Overturning or feeling like you are going to overturn is the issue. Normally the "sh!!!!!t" factor will stop you going to steep.

    The steeper you get the more weight is transferred to the lower of the drive wheels increasing the chance of all the power going via the differential to the higher wheel which leads to wheel spin. Mowers (normally pedestrian) designed to cut across slopes often have no dif or wheel brake steering. Steering also gets difficult and less responsive on a steep slope.

    Another issue can simply be the seat safety switch, as you go across the slope your weight moves and the engine cuts out.

    The real killer can be turning on a slope. If you are driving to a flat area you can turn but if you are left to turn on a slope the pucker factor may be high.

    I go to about 20 degrees which feels a lot steeper than it actually is. Bare in mind that and lumps, bumps, hollows or mower wheel ruts might suddenly increase a manageable slope and make it a lot more interesting.

    Finally think about the engine. Worth checking on the engine manufactures spec what angles the engine is good for.

    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 LV-426


    Thanks for that. I have approx .4 acre over 4 parts if you get me and most of it is sloped. Don't have the time or energy these days to be walking behind a machine but it seems I'm stuck with it!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,660 ✭✭✭deezell




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 LV-426


    Maybe. Is that doable when lawn areas are separated though? Also lawns aren't the most manicured as in not the smoothest surface.



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    @deezell what do you think of this?

    I'm looking at every 43/44" Viking/Stihl that comes up on Done Deal!

    Is cruise control handy or a gimmick? I see them on the larger Stihl. I said I have 3 acres, but when I take out house, patio, drive, area under trees etc it's probably closer to 2.

    Thanks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,660 ✭✭✭deezell


    I never use CC mowing , but it cab be useful for some fixed speed task, like towing a sprayer for accurate coverage, or if you were cutting very heavy sward at a crawl.

    Rule of thumb for depreciation from new is 80% residual value year one, 90% year two and subsequent. €4550 x.0.8 x 0.9 is €3276, which is probably more realistic for a private sale machine with no warranty and no trade in option. A dealer might list at the price asked, but will have both of the latter options. The hours are relatively low though, assuming it has an hour meter to confirm them, it would suggest about 20-25 mins mowing time weekly, over two seasons of about 25 weeks each.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84 ✭✭techi


    A delayed update :)

    i ended up going with the Honda HF2417hme, well it just works. Delighted with the decision, thanks for the suggestions and info guys.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84 ✭✭redseat1


    Anyone have any thoughts on the Husqvarna TC 342T ride on? I see one online for €3,500 with very low use, about 30 hours. Garden is big and parts are steep enough, thanks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,660 ✭✭✭deezell


    Older model machine from 2015, they sure didn't like it in Australia.

    List price about 4 grand, 30 hours is low, about a seasons work in a large garden, if it were only a year old I'd expect to buy it in the region of €3200, but if its low hours but several years old you can knock that down by another 10% compounded for each extra year. That and the poor rep these had, and the fact that its pretty much an old model wouldn't fill me with encouragement, but, if it was immaculate, no older that 2019 and the price was a grand less, maybe worth a punt, but, like I said, one star per review from a total of 6 reviews in OZ. If its a relatively young machine, say bought 2021, you'd wonder why they're getting rid so soon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84 ✭✭redseat1


    Thanks...I'm not even going to try to haggle, those reviews are scary! That's not just steered me away from this model, but Husqvarna ride ons!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,299 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    I had about 7 blackthorn punctures in one tyre (Honda ride on,not including two others that must have at least one each) so had nothing to loose filling them all with goop https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B004EK5P4I/. This worked fine for me and I've had no problems for the last 18 months. If I was doing it again I'd put a 500ml bottle in each rear tyre and split another between the two font tyres.

    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,660 ✭✭✭deezell


    If you can pop the entire wheel off, its generally only held on by an axle nut, you could bring it to any tyre depot and have a patch put on the inside of the tyre. You can get the plug repair kit with the rubber strings for a few euro,perfectly safe for a tractor mower tyre. I'd just patch the inside of the tube myself, not any more difficult that fixing a bike puncture.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,299 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    But I found on the worst tyre (pumped up and counted 7 streams of air coming out in a water butt) still had a very slow leak until I put about 500ml in it.

    Be careful you don't loose the seating of the tyre on the rim if you aren't taking it to a tyre shop. Its difficult to reseat the tyre but I find a ratchet strap tight around it forces the rim of the tyre out close enough to the wheel rim for a air line to seat it back on.

    My reason for going the goop route was I know I'm going to hit blackthorn thorns again.

    Wake me up when it's all over.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84 ✭✭redseat1


    It's about 1k above my budget, but anyone have any thoughts on the Stihl RT 5112 Z? Garden is on a hill so there are some good long climbs...

    https://www.donedeal.ie/gardenequipment-for-sale/stihl-ride-on-/32018752?campaign=23



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