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Machinery Photo/Discussion Thread II

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,357 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    The Landini looked value even if it was a Landini. I presume+vat and auction fees so about 25k sterling.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    Slurry pump was cheap



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,856 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Why not something like a 3cx? Could be used for feeding or loading bales, back actor would probably do most of the digging work you have to do. Hire in a track machine for the bigger jobs.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,357 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    There was a case JXU105 2011 with a quickie Q41 loader 5.5k hours for 17.5 sterling +vat and fees.

    Decent stockman's tractor for 25k euro that was value from a farm dispersed sale. Well worth a punt even if you had to put another 4-5 k into it you would be well ahead

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    Any word on the latest Bord na mona auction



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,373 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Had a look at a digger loader and impression it was neither here nor there for the jobs on the farm.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,856 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Ya its a jack of all trades and master of none alright, but its a capable machine in the right hands. Main reason I went for one is the shuttle gearbox, my left knee isn’t getting any younger!

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,558 ✭✭✭DBK1


    I’d say the Bord didn’t pay much more than that for them tractors when they were new.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump



    I think there is a separate wire at the alternator for the rev counter for those machines


    Edit: Sorry. Just saw you have it fixed!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,899 ✭✭✭9935452


    If you are buying mostly for digger work, a wheeled loader wont suit.

    Ive a hx here, wouldnt change it for the world. It has done a share of digging but is limited, reach isnt fantastic as its standard back actor.

    When doing drzinage work, it sinks on the jacks and wheels and eithre gets stuck or mzkes a mess a track machine will walk on water in comparison.

    Moving it when digging drains can be a pain. Every 5 or 6 feet, lift lacks, lift front bucket, possibly swing around seat. Drive forward 5 feet and reset.

    And then you have the digging at angles to you.

    As i say wouldnt change it but do get in a track machine for the bigger work. It can be a lot quicker when there are extra body there, drawing away from him with the trailer, backfilling drains with stone etc.

    It can be very slow if you are doing it all yourself



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,120 ✭✭✭selectamatic


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    Anyone an idea what this headstock would be? It's on a Rossmore fl60 Loader. I assumed it was the old style Rossmore one. But brother apparently tried a neighbors oldstyle Rossmore spike on it and the headstock was too wide. If not Rossmore I'm thinking maybe tanco.


    It's working width is 39inches or 900mm. And the distance from the top bar to bottom pin is about 250mm. The diameter of the pins and top bar is about an inch or 25mm.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 947 ✭✭✭The Nutty M


    Looks very like an old euro bracket but the top to bottom measurement of 250mm is not a euro bracket size I think.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,120 ✭✭✭selectamatic


    That mightn't be a fully accurate measurement tbh prob be a bit more than 250 not much though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,021 ✭✭✭roosterman71


    I'd say it's a Rossmore alright. This is our old headstock on the Rossmore loader. Yours looks the same

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭White Clover


    Yeah it's definitely a Rossmore Headstock. I think the fl45 was a narrower loader and the 60, 80 and 100 were wider. There was definitely a wide and a narrow model.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,120 ✭✭✭selectamatic


    Ya it looks very similar to that surely.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,120 ✭✭✭selectamatic


    Right that'd explain the neighbors stuff not fitting so if his was the narrow model.

    Thanks for the info lads.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 196 ✭✭Jim Simmental


    Hi all, just posting this for a neighbour.


    he has a 30 year Massey Ferguson 390 with a loader, he is looking to trade up.

    Has a budget of 20K along with the Massey - so about €35,000.

    His daughter will be taking over after so looking for hook lift arms and few extra comforts if possible, power shuttle/lighter clutch

    must have a loader - stockman use for mowing, topping, loading stacking bales, cleaning out sheds, feeding, etc


    I advised he might get new Holland TS115 in his budget - which would enable him to use a double bale lifter and it should comfortably lift a 2 ton pallet on the front, but I wouldn’t be sure about the gearbox reliability in them.


    other option might be a MF 5455 but again not sure if the dyna 4 or power shift gearbox should be the best either. Or if it would be as capable tractor as the TS


    so for €35,000 what would you recommend for stockman these days?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,641 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    TS115 is a far more capable machine than the 5455.

    But neither will handle 2 tonne.

    You would need a 5.5 or 6 tonne gross weight tractor to maneuver a 2 tonne pallet, the TS will just about, but not quite handle it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,609 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    Do they need to lift 2 tonne that often, would need a decent enough size of tractor for that I'd imagine. Implements to suit the size of tractor and work from there. Use of contractor for heavier work would also be an option to consider to reduce work load.

    Have jcb here for loader work, tractor only does fert and agitator and drawing bales, contractors do all other tractor work really



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,558 ✭✭✭DBK1


    A TS115 certainly wouldn’t be comfortable on a 2 ton pallet. It’ll need a big strong loader on it to be capable of lifting it and if you succeed at lifting it then you’ll only drive in straight lines as it’ll be too much weight on the front axle so you won’t be able to turn the steering.

    Gearbox would be one item on a TS115 that you’ll never have to worry about. they’re a great tractor but are expensive to pick up now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 827 ✭✭✭farmingquestion


    What defects are ok when buying a loader? Would a weld on a loader be a massive red flag or would it be fine?

    What if the loader is a bit warped, would it matter or what's the danger with it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,124 ✭✭✭mr.stonewall


    Warped loader, big no no. First off you have to ask what was the user doing to warp it. This leads towards a rough operated.

    Anything that is warped will have stains put on welds which could be starting to crack, if it was me I would walk from it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 827 ✭✭✭farmingquestion



    Would it matter how the warp happened or how much it's warped?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,021 ✭✭✭roosterman71


    Stay away. Your only buying in problems. May be cheap day 1 but won't end that way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,003 ✭✭✭timple23


    There is a ts115a and a ts115, the ts115a would be the newer design with a much more comfortable cab. Available with dual power gearbox, and forward/reverse shuttle on steering column, which is handy for loader work. I think only the sle has the shuttle on the column.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,124 ✭✭✭mr.stonewall


    How it happened will tell a lot about the previous owner of it, could be a dog on machines. If it was slight someone could have already push back against the twist to straighten it. Cracking could be happening in the inside of the loader beam,metal at the twist points will be more ductile and prone to failure

    The question you have to ask would you feel safe tracking with a wet bale on the front. If it's only ever going to move a few bales of hay or straw no problem. If it has to move a lock of fusion bales thread carefully

    For me anything more that half an inch on a loader I would walk away from. But I have to handle a pit and over 200 bales



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 827 ✭✭✭farmingquestion


    The tractor and rest seems flawless.

    It's not going cheap, but everything except for that is perfect.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,163 ✭✭✭jimmy G M


    TS115a is 6 cylinder 115 Hp machine, MF 5455 is 4 cylinder 95 hp pre 2008 and 105 post 2008, so not really comparing like with like.

    As other have mentioned, neither will lift 2 T on the front loader, both would handle a double bale handler on the back and a single bale on the front.

    The MF has an excellent reputation as a loader tractor, esp if you can get a sloped bonnet version and Hi viz roof. Either gearbox is good.My choice would be the MF as a neater loader tractor.



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