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Beef price tracker 2

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,598 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    Same as that here. Kill out better than last year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,067 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Weights well back here and locally, hard to keep grass ahead of them this July and August.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭KAMG


    Weights and Killout percentage up on last year for me too. I had a great year killing cattle off grass from May to August. Got over half away at the top prices in early summer. Will be interesting how much higher the price goes heading into the spring.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,578 ✭✭✭morphy87


    I had the same issue, weights back over20kg



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,578 ✭✭✭morphy87


    If cattle are scarce you should get away with the moves



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,109 ✭✭✭kk.man




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,806 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    Weighed heavier and got them away quicker this year but are there not more factors to consider why mine weighed heavier than saying it was because I am on heavier ground? How accurate it is to say they weighed better or worse especially when buying in.

    They are not the same cattle every year. Cattle can winter better or worse every year. Into the shed a few weeks earlier or let out of the shed in early March rather than early April. Better or worse silage from one winter to the next.

    It takes little to keep cattle going when it’s hot. Threw a bale with cattle that were running low during the summer and they barely touched it after the first couple of hours.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 212 ✭✭massey 265


    A good indicator of beef prices for the next 6 months .The forward price for organic beef is 20 plus cent a kilo better than last year going by prices supplied by good herdsman.this shud auger well for convention price going forward as they tracked each other last year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,315 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Watching Gortnalea tonight. prices stock are making indicates that a lot are heading for slaughter. really hot enough trade in cattle that are QA and especially if under 30 months. 598kg Friesians with a bit of flesh made 1480. There was three P's in the bunch of seven.

    Slava Ukrainii



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭somewhat disappointed


    Was in Roscrea Mart yesterday certainly no heat in the trade didn't see any World breaking prices . €2.20 a kg and less in cases was all average cattle were bid too .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,315 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    That bunch of Friesians made 2.45/ kg to put it into context. Another bunch 560 made about 2.3/ kg you they had a bit of flesh as well but we're 30/31 months

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,448 ✭✭✭Grueller


    About here forward cattle are a great trade and those without flesh are still a middling only trade.

    Cull cows are afire. I sold 2 friesians and a Montbeliarde straight from the parlour last week. They came into €3530 for the 3. Milked that morning.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,315 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Cattle with a bit of flesh are selling well. There may be dips. AA cattle that will kill 300 ISH 1700 euro. AA 20 months 570 kgs 1740.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,327 Mod ✭✭✭✭Siamsa Sessions


    Neighbour sold 3 culls straight from the parlour for €1,150/head. There's money in that oul mince after all 😀

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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,327 Mod ✭✭✭✭Siamsa Sessions


    Some prices from Dungarvan this morning in the pics. Heavier cattle doing well. Some odds and sods if you're into that. Every type of Angus animal seems to be getting a premium

    Screenshot 2022-12-12 at 13.26.18.png Screenshot 2022-12-12 at 13.26.28.png Screenshot 2022-12-12 at 13.27.13.png


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 756 ✭✭✭Conversations 3


    What's the price in the factory this week?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 682 ✭✭✭Fine Day


    I see on Agriland that there was a particular go on Angus alright. Have some hefiers on good silage and about 3 kgs off good quality beef finisher. Do you think 3 kg is enough. I don't want them to get over fat as they have a habit to.They be spring 21 born. Hopefully be able to start getting them off from February on next. Fingers crossed prices will be good in the new year. PS keep up the good work on the channel.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭mr.stonewall


    Angus fatten fierce quick. It's weight that pays. These type of stock are still putting on frame. Have similar here, but feeding approx 2kg with and 0.5kg of soya. This will be pulled in early Jan. Then 4kg a day to finish. Any bit of flesh on them and you would have them finished in a 30-50 day window.

    Feedlots are buying these Angus as they can turn them around quickly. If they have QA then that what they want



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 682 ✭✭✭Fine Day


    That's the plan. I might up to 4kgs in the new year but will see how they will do for the next few weeks. They only went to 3 kg/day at the weekend. Once they are ready get them off as you will be screwed on price then.

    They were on about 1 kg/day for 3 weeks before that. There is Herefords in it too but I reckon some of them will be ready sooner. Have one picked for the freezer also. We have a preference for the blk Hereford over the Angus. We like the bit of fat for that prefect flavor.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,315 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Looking at the AA Bullocks while the prices may have seem good at a guess they seemed to be a bit off factory price if QA.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,109 ✭✭✭kk.man


    Was thinking the same but probably not well up on the flesh.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,315 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Most AA have flesh at 550 kgs+ especially if only 20-24 months. You no longer get those rangy AA that will not start to flesh until 630+ kgs

    I am guessing that the AA heifer that was 440 kgs and made 1070 was a butchers heifer, if really butty and fleshy she would kill 230 kgs off mart weight maybe a tad with it. You would imagine she was worth 5/ kg.

    There was two friesian heifers made 1050+ at 500 ISH kgs. I be surprised if they were not fairly fleshy at that money. Killing 50% of mart weight at 4.6/kg 1150.

    AA Bullocks would have wanted to be making 2.6-2.7/kg to be making factory price if QA at a guess.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 510 ✭✭✭dryan


    Have a few heavy underage bullocks ready to move on. 4.90 base on offer - midlands.

    Anything better to be got?

    Pushing for 4.95.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,315 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    If there is a bit of leeway on there age and are not in danger of going overfat I be inclined to hold. Processors are struggling to hold the price in control. I would not be surprised to see a base of 5.2 in early January and 5.5 by March

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,285 ✭✭✭Dozer1


    Last few lm heifers gone here r grade at 5.20 flat. A few cows went at 4.50 and 4.60 both r's



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,327 Mod ✭✭✭✭Siamsa Sessions


    I'm trying to do some "machine learning" research for the off-farm job and I managed to find the price of cattle (cent/kg) going back years on the CSO website.

    I pulled out the years 2012-2020 and the image attached shows the trend for price across these years. This will be of little use to farmers--it's all about the maths and research for the off-farm job--but I thought I'd share here anyway in case someone finds it interesting.

    You can see the general trend of rising price til June most years, then dropping til Dec/Jan, before rising again til the following June.

    Would the drop in April-2020 be covid-related?

    Picture 1.png


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,806 ✭✭✭Cavanjack




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    See the consistent price drop every year around the end of June. That’s when the 30 month cattle or nearly 30 months come on stream and oversupply leads to a dip



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭mr.stonewall


    You have hit the nail on the head. The 30 months is just a means to massage the supply. It's a bit of a double edge sword. If it's removed would the price drop be more sharp as weather would flush grass cattle out. Remember this was a side deal done with Mii and a certain farm org around 2009.

    @Siamsa Sessions a nice correlation to do would be to compare average carcase weight.

    The holy grail would be if we could see the number of feedlot cattle being killed on a weekly basis.



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